@olivierlambert said:

Ah sorry I read it too quickly. This panel is only there in some occasions, but I see the point of only displaying it when we click on a relevant element. Feedback for you @julienxovates

While on the topic of the tree-view panel.
Have you noticed that the indentation changes if there is a chevron indicating that there are VMs on a host? Making it so that the hosts no longer are alinged vertically

@olivierlambert said:

@jr-m4 do you know you can collapse the side bar? Use the hamburger icon just after "Xen Orchestra" title to do so.

Yes, but it is the rightmost pane that I'm not agreeing with.
The left most "tree-view"-sidebar is quite usefull. And has imho good potential.

@julienXOvates said:

@colomb said:

I really miss the description column XO5 has in the default/home view. I understand space is limited for the tree view, but maybe it could appear when a host is selected in the tree view?

In XO6, you will see it if you click on the eye at the end of the row, then on the right panel.
Is this OK ?

Personally I don't really find the rightmost pane/section all that usefull. It's to narrow to have any clear information. And it also leads to the other panels being smaller than they (imho) need to be able to show their base information as well.
This is especially noticable when using windows sizes narrower than 1080p.

The rightmost pane I hope will get either removed, and redone in UI v7. Because right now XO5 is far more informational than that is.

Sorry for jumping on with my two cents.

@julienXOvates said:

@colomb said:

I really miss the description column XO5 has in the default/home view. I understand space is limited for the tree view, but maybe it could appear when a host is selected in the tree view?

In XO6, you will see it if you click on the eye at the end of the row, then on the right panel.
Is this OK ?

I noticed that. Unfortunately, for our use case, clicking on each vm to see the description is a little onerous. Ideally, you'd allow the user to customize the visible columns in the VMs page/tab. The fact that search includes description does help. Ultimately, it was convenient that XO5 would allow us to quickly identify vms by the description from the "Home" page.

@colomb said:

I really miss the description column XO5 has in the default/home view. I understand space is limited for the tree view, but maybe it could appear when a host is selected in the tree view?

In XO6, you will see it if you click on the eye at the end of the row, then on the right panel.
Is this OK ?

@colomb said:

it could appear when a host is selected in the tree view?

or as a tooltip when the cursor fly-over the name of th VM / host

Ok that was in xo from sources and yes issue is fixed...

Confirmed is working in XOA in 6.4.1

@julienXOvates said:

@acebmxer this should be fixed in the latest 6.4 release. Can you please confirm ?

Could you provide more context? Which problem are you referring to?

Edit - Just updated home lab XOA to 6.4.1 no issues with v6 dashboard loading.

Filing those on GitHub isn't me asking anyone to stop using the forum, quite the opposite in fact.
The forum is where real conversations happen, and that's valuable in a way a GitHub issue never quite is. But forum threads scroll, get buried, and developers can't easily maintain a stable backlog out of them. GitHub gives the team a place where things don't disappear or get buried.

Think of it as belt and suspenders (which I need now that I'm getting old ). The discussion lives here, the tracking lives there. My goal as community manager is to be the relay between the two, so you don't have to worry about it.
File things here, talk about them here, and I'll make sure what matters makes it into the right repo.
Or at least, that's the plan. Mine.

@escape222 said:

Slow booting on Debian 13 VM created from a template

I recently tried cloning a VM from a template (created from a full install of Debian 13). What was noticed was that the system takes forever to boot when the VM is created from XO-6. The issue does not happen in XO-5. The VM seems to hang at the TianoCore boot screen .

What I noticed is that when the VM is cloned with XO-6 the boot order somehow changes to Network boot as the first option

This does not happen (change of boot order) if the VM is cloned from XO-5 and there is no boot delay. The boot process seems to wait for more than 2 minutes before it fails network boot and then proceeds normally to boot from the Hard drive

Thanks

This one's filed as GitHub issue #9802. The clone inserting Network Boot as the first option is reproducible and @MajorP93 confirmed the extended boot time with spinlock messages too, which strengthens the report. Both symptoms are in the issue. If you find a workaround in the meantime (like manually reordering boot entries post-clone), adding it to the issue would be useful for others hitting the same thing.

@Greg_E said:

@MajorP93

Before the LTS release UEFI worked extremely well, something kind of went sideways when it hit release. I only have a single UEFI VM, it was created under version 8.2 and does not give me trouble.

I guess I need to get my lab back up, had a UPS fail and shut everything off a few days ago. Then I need to test UEFI VMs and see what I can see. But back when it went LTS I reinstalled from scratch and tried to do everything through XO-lite to get the first VM running and found that Debian 13 or Windows Server 2022 would not boot if I created them with UEFI. Since then I haven't tested this again.

I'm also tempted to just move my whole lab to version 9, waiting for the next ISO to land and I may do this. I can run real testing workloads on Harvester for the time being and maybe play around migrating back and forth between both systems.

Logged this as GitHub issue #9801. The detail that 8.2-era UEFI VMs still work but new ones created through XO Lite don't is a useful clue for the team to narrow the scope. Worth checking if the same behavior shows up when creating the VM through XO 5 vs XO Lite, in case it's a frontend difference rather than hypervisor-level. Either way, the issue is now tracked.

@probain said:

probain said:

Unfortunately, commit https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/pull/9727 doesn't fix this issue of the VM-console reloading constantly. With loss of focus as a result. At least not on XO6..

PR #9727 was supposed to fix this but it sounds like the problem is still there on XO 6 for you. I've filed it as GitHub issue #9800 so the team can take another look with fresh eyes. If you have any more details about when the reload triggers (for example, whether it happens more on certain browsers or VM types) adding them to the issue would probably help narrow it down.

pierre-briffaux opened this pull request in vatesfr/xen-orchestra

closed fix(vm/console): fix VNC reconnection causing focus loss #9727

@Baronvaile said:

After upgrading from 6.3.3 to the new 6.4.0 release, the dashboard page for xoa 6 is just spinning. v5 seem unaffected after the update. I have restarted the xoa vm. The xoa-updated show all up to date and xoa check shows healthy.

Thanks for the detailed report and the journalctl output, and to @acebmxer and @ph7 for the confirmations. I've filed this upstream as GitHub issue #9799 so the dev team can track it properly. The in-thread fix from @mathieura got your instances running again, but the root cause is worth investigating so it doesn't come back in a future update. I'll update the issue if anything changes on that front.

Confirmed Dashboard now loads correctly.

Thank you both for your availability for testing. I will see with the XO team when to release a fix.

We apologize for any inconvenience