<![CDATA[Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do?]]>There is this blog post about RedHat closing CentOS to focus on CentOS Stream.
I know xcp-ng is based on CentOS so the question is what will happen to xcp-ng?

https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/

I personally prefer Debian and I would love to use xcp-ng on Debian but I know I'm not the main xcp-ng target.

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/topic/3925/centos-8-is-eol-in-2021-what-will-xcp-ng-doRSS for NodeTue, 14 Apr 2026 06:39:59 GMTTue, 08 Dec 2020 19:14:51 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do? on Thu, 05 Oct 2023 18:50:32 GMT]]>As I already explained in different places, what matters is the hypervisor, kernel, OVS and such important packages. We can still backport security fixes ourselves on various packages inside the OS.

XCP-ng is only partially based on CentOS, only using non-critical CentOS packages (NOT the kernel, NOT Xen, NOT OVS, SMAPI/XAPI aren't packaged in CentOS etc.).

XCP-ng is NOT your regular distro, it's an appliance where we backport relevant security fixes.

Be sure that next major version won't even have SSH access enabled by default.

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/66290https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/66290Thu, 05 Oct 2023 18:50:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do? on Thu, 05 Oct 2023 18:46:59 GMT]]>Any updates here? We're 8 months away and its worrisome installing new nodes with less than 1 year lifetime.

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/66289https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/66289Thu, 05 Oct 2023 18:46:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do? on Sat, 08 Apr 2023 14:01:36 GMT]]>CentOS 7 will continue to be supported with patches and so on up to June the 30th 2024, so it's not really a priority as we speak. But I'm sure the topic will be discussed during the next Xen summit in June πŸ™‚

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/60915https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/60915Sat, 08 Apr 2023 14:01:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do? on Sat, 08 Apr 2023 13:55:13 GMT]]>Any news what will happened here?

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/60914https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/60914Sat, 08 Apr 2023 13:55:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do? on Thu, 15 Dec 2022 21:06:16 GMT]]>Indeed, there's no reason to reinvent the wheel. We always prefer to work together, there's too many things to do πŸ™‚

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/56235https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/56235Thu, 15 Dec 2022 21:06:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do? on Thu, 15 Dec 2022 21:04:31 GMT]]>@olivierlambert said in Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do?:

IMHO, CentOS Stream might do it, alternatively Rocky, but this will be probably a "common" decision with Citrix so we can keep our fork small and contribute to each project easily πŸ™‚ (and move faster!)

I forgot about Citrix. In that case it makes sense to work together. Anything else is double work πŸ™‚

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/56233https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/56233Thu, 15 Dec 2022 21:04:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do? on Thu, 15 Dec 2022 19:59:20 GMT]]>IMHO, CentOS Stream might do it, alternatively Rocky, but this will be probably a "common" decision with Citrix so we can keep our fork small and contribute to each project easily πŸ™‚ (and move faster!)

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/56222https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/56222Thu, 15 Dec 2022 19:59:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do? on Thu, 15 Dec 2022 19:40:27 GMT]]>@olivierlambert said in Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do?:

The thing is: everything is RPM based now. Switching to DEB will involve a LOT of work (not only to rebuild everything, but also the build system, now based on Koji etc.)

Note: I like Debian and it's my main server operating system.

Got it. Thanks!

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/56220https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/56220Thu, 15 Dec 2022 19:40:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do? on Sat, 10 Dec 2022 09:37:02 GMT]]>The thing is: everything is RPM based now. Switching to DEB will involve a LOT of work (not only to rebuild everything, but also the build system, now based on Koji etc.)

Note: I like Debian and it's my main server operating system.

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/56080https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/56080Sat, 10 Dec 2022 09:37:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do? on Sat, 10 Dec 2022 07:30:01 GMT]]>I've always used Debian LTS for many, many years. Just curious if Debian is anywhere on the radar for the replacement?

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/56079https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/56079Sat, 10 Dec 2022 07:30:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do? on Fri, 23 Apr 2021 18:25:13 GMT]]>Xen and Linux kernel inside XCP-ng are completely custom, so it's pretty different than the those shipped in CentOS or even Alpine.

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/38889https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/38889Fri, 23 Apr 2021 18:25:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do? on Fri, 23 Apr 2021 17:21:49 GMT]]>@indyj said in Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do?:

@jefftee I prefer Alpine Linux. ✌

+1

Low resource footprint, no bloatware... They even have a pre-built Xen Hypervisor ISO flavor πŸ˜‰

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/38888https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/38888Fri, 23 Apr 2021 17:21:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do? on Fri, 23 Apr 2021 17:15:06 GMT]]>@indyj ok

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/38887https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/38887Fri, 23 Apr 2021 17:15:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do? on Fri, 23 Apr 2021 16:42:53 GMT]]>@jefftee I prefer Alpine Linux. ✌

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/38885https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/38885Fri, 23 Apr 2021 16:42:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do? on Mon, 21 Dec 2020 06:15:01 GMT]]>@ieugen Read the blog post that XCP-NG posted today on this very topic, but even if the decided to stick with CentOS 8 Stream for the future base platform, they have selective control over which packages/updates would get released for XCP-NG.

I've already switched my CentOS 8.x installs to CentOS 8 Stream. Fedora is too buggy and too far upstream of RedHat for my personal taste. CentOS 8 Steam is supposed to be positioned between Fedora and RedHat, so they might just hit the sweet spot.

Of course, if XCP-NG switched to Ubuntu LTS releases as the base going forward, I wouldn't cry about that either, so I anticipate this announcement from RedHat won't really affect XCP-NG and we'll look back on this and realize it was not a big deal.

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/34597https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/34597Mon, 21 Dec 2020 06:15:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do? on Fri, 18 Dec 2020 15:38:04 GMT]]>We have published a blog post about all this: https://xcp-ng.org/blog/2020/12/17/centos-and-xcpng-future/

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/34579https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/34579Fri, 18 Dec 2020 15:38:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do? on Sat, 12 Dec 2020 18:58:45 GMT]]>We'll have discussion with them to have think about the future πŸ™‚

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/34378https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/34378Sat, 12 Dec 2020 18:58:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do? on Sat, 12 Dec 2020 18:51:21 GMT]]>@olivierlambert Yup, I meant Citrix and whatever they call it now - XenServer.

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/34375https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/34375Sat, 12 Dec 2020 18:51:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do? on Sat, 12 Dec 2020 18:31:28 GMT]]>What do you mean by "Xen" @Biggen ? Xen itself doesn't need any Linux distro.

You meant Citrix maybe?

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/34370https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/34370Sat, 12 Dec 2020 18:31:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do? on Sat, 12 Dec 2020 13:29:03 GMT]]>There is also Oracle Linux which is another RHEL offshoot.

Will be interesting to see what Xen decides to do. Does xcp-ng forge ahead on their own and pick a distribution that Xen doesn’t?

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/34361https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/34361Sat, 12 Dec 2020 13:29:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do? on Sat, 12 Dec 2020 02:44:26 GMT]]>@stormi

It still moves it ahead of RHEL where as CentOS typically trailed (briefly). I'm not sure what to make of ANOTHER dev branch considering I thought that was the niche Fedora fit in.

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/34355https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/34355Sat, 12 Dec 2020 02:44:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do? on Fri, 11 Dec 2020 11:28:10 GMT]]>A useful thread from someone working on CentOS restoring some facts after the disastrous announcement and the logical reactions from disappointed users: https://twitter.com/carlwgeorge/status/1336901625290625024

The breach of trust is still there regarding the EOL date of CentOS 8, but CentOS 8 Stream itself should not be that bad. It should still receive a fair amount of internal testing at Red Hat. They probably shouldn't have used the words "development branch" in their blog post: it was obvious that everyone would automatically translate it into "unstable".

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/34319https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/34319Fri, 11 Dec 2020 11:28:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do? on Thu, 10 Dec 2020 08:51:03 GMT]]>@zulu oh god… Indeed, this is gold πŸ˜†

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/34260https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/34260Thu, 10 Dec 2020 08:51:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do? on Thu, 10 Dec 2020 05:59:33 GMT]]>@stormi true that! We've already migrated 30% of our infrastructure to CentOS 8 and now this...

This is gold, anyway.

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/34258https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/34258Thu, 10 Dec 2020 05:59:33 GMT