<![CDATA[XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019]]>Wasn't too sure where to post this and I'm sure the team are already aware of XS8.0 and whats on the horizon but for everyone else here's the announcement from Citrix:

https://www.citrix.com/blogs/2018/10/03/major-platform-changes-to-xenserver-what-you-need-to-know/

"The new 8.0 release includes new platform components, most notably changes to the linux kernel. The changes to the linux kernel will require hardware vendors to re-certify their servers, NICs and HBAs against this new platform; therefore, changes to the HCL should be expected."

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/topic/547/xenserver-8-0-major-update-due-q1-2019RSS for NodeSat, 18 Jul 2026 21:58:17 GMTThu, 25 Oct 2018 00:05:27 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019 on Thu, 16 May 2019 20:38:24 GMT]]>How about doing your own matrix?

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11821https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11821Thu, 16 May 2019 20:38:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019 on Thu, 16 May 2019 12:17:18 GMT]]>@ Oli and the XCP-NG team ..

Will the Westmere EP (aka X5xx series etc) Xeons be supported by XCP-NG 8.0 as the XS HCL no longer lists them as a supported CPU?

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11811https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11811Thu, 16 May 2019 12:17:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019 on Tue, 14 May 2019 07:01:22 GMT]]>Well, it's not entirely true. You can do vCPU pinning if you want to avoid any bad placement on very large core setup, so Xen cost will be virtually non-existent. This is working well.

The main reason for Citrix to limit vCPU number is for support reasons: there is some odd combination possible in some case on some hardware.

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11700https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11700Tue, 14 May 2019 07:01:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019 on Tue, 14 May 2019 06:34:56 GMT]]>Absolutely @cg 👍

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11697https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11697Tue, 14 May 2019 06:34:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019 on Mon, 13 May 2019 22:44:43 GMT]]>You should consider, that efficiency of vCPUs goes down by each one you add. I don't have the link to that Citrix document handy, so you need to google that.
If you really need that many cores, you should consider a physical machine, which should make a serious bump in performance.
AFAIR it was the overhead of the Xen scheduler, which needs to balance the needs of your VM. The more vCPUs one VM has, the bigger the overhead. I'm sure it didn't change in more recent versions.

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11691https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11691Mon, 13 May 2019 22:44:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019 on Mon, 13 May 2019 18:26:31 GMT]]>This is not a real limit: we even unlocked this artificial limit in Xen Orchestra.

It's 128 in HVM guest, see https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_Project_Release_Features

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11672https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11672Mon, 13 May 2019 18:26:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019 on Mon, 13 May 2019 18:11:33 GMT]]>Still max 32 vcpu limit per VM. This is too litle!

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11671https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11671Mon, 13 May 2019 18:11:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019 on Tue, 30 Apr 2019 06:54:15 GMT]]>@gangsterrapper22 Thanks. The reason why we restrict corosync in the license daemon is to avoid XCP-ng Center advertise it as available when it isn't.

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11175https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11175Tue, 30 Apr 2019 06:54:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019 on Mon, 29 Apr 2019 18:15:36 GMT]]>@olivierlambert said in XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019:

However, SMAPIv3 is far from being production ready now. See the dev diary in News section 🙂

We all wait for updates 😜

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11146https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11146Mon, 29 Apr 2019 18:15:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019 on Mon, 29 Apr 2019 16:53:07 GMT]]>I think there is a lot of conversations around this forum about this 🙂 SMAPIv3 is able to use qcow2 instead of VHD, allowing to get rid of the 2TiB limit.

However, SMAPIv3 is far from being production ready now. See the dev diary in News section 🙂

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11132https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11132Mon, 29 Apr 2019 16:53:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019 on Mon, 29 Apr 2019 11:58:42 GMT]]>Just wondering strongly if xcp-ng will support disks bigger than 2TBs

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11118https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11118Mon, 29 Apr 2019 11:58:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019 on Mon, 29 Apr 2019 11:51:26 GMT]]>@akurzawa: What do you want to say?

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11116https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11116Mon, 29 Apr 2019 11:51:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019 on Mon, 29 Apr 2019 08:25:41 GMT]]>https://www.citrix.com/blogs/2019/04/25/citrix-hypervisor-8-0-is-here/

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]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11108https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11108Mon, 29 Apr 2019 08:25:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019 on Sun, 28 Apr 2019 14:13:08 GMT]]>I have removed the Feature Restricton of Corosync, that it is also available, because it is availbale in the Citrix Hypervisor 8, but I think you aren't allow to distribute this Feature, as it isn't Open Source. I wanted to test the GFS2 Feature.
I have added Corosync in additional_feature and in keys_of_additional_features the same I also did for the UEFI Secureboot.
I added it in additional_feature with the Name "GuefiSecureBoot" and in "keys_of_additional_features" with "GuefiSecureBoot, (Negative, "restrict_guefi-secureboot");"

I hope it is clear what I did. 🙂
I forgot to save the patch File otherwise I could send it to you. The Compilation of the Package was done with your xcp-ng-build-env.

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11096https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11096Sun, 28 Apr 2019 14:13:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019 on Sun, 28 Apr 2019 11:13:26 GMT]]>Feel free to share your modifications 🙂

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11092https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11092Sun, 28 Apr 2019 11:13:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019 on Sat, 27 Apr 2019 13:49:18 GMT]]>I have installed the Citrix Hyperivsor 8 and recompiled your xcp-featured Package and modified it a little bit for the new Features like UEFI Secureboot. It seems to be working so far. I just use this for my Homelab.

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11079https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11079Sat, 27 Apr 2019 13:49:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019 on Thu, 25 Apr 2019 13:28:54 GMT]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/topic/1251/citrix-hypervisor-8-0-landed

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11025https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/11025Thu, 25 Apr 2019 13:28:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019 on Wed, 24 Apr 2019 08:20:25 GMT]]>@jcpt928 if you can bring support contract for at least 170 XCP-ng "standard" hosts per year, then your cover our expenses to pay you 😉

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/10973https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/10973Wed, 24 Apr 2019 08:20:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019 on Wed, 24 Apr 2019 01:04:52 GMT]]>I will add that I use XCP-ng at home; but, also in an enterprise virtual environment (without professional support right now, as we don't need it for Xen). We also use the Enterprise XOA, and have even had great success with Backup-ng for specific VMs we can't backup with other solutions. My qualm is that I could absolutely use some of those Enterprise features at home; but, alas, the licensing is WAY beyond my personal budget. The subscription model is the only way to go in this industry, or the very similar perpetual license with a yearly support subscription (neither all that different from each other from a cost perspective) - you can't maintain a team and ongoing development with "one time fees" (look how this has actually harmed Plex due to way too many lifetime passes being sold).

That said, the reliability and stability of the XCP-ng\XOA solutions across the board is at least equivalent to native Xenserver (which isn't necessarily an insult or a compliment - any of us who have used XenServer long enough know that it can be incredibly easy and downright simple to manage, or it can turn into an absolute disaster real quick). We also run native XenServer, and some VMware and Hyper-V in our environment.

Do I have ideas of where I'd like to see XCP-ng go? Absolutely. I don't think it's time for me to be pushing those while the team fleshes out the product per their initial goals and desires, however. Do I have extremely diverse experience that could be invaluable to the team in developing new features and capabilities? I'm sure; but, I'm not a developer, I'm an administrator\engineer. I understand coding, and can often talk the talk; but, it's not my cup of tea, for sure - I'm not sure I'd know where to start to assist those endeavors beyond asking actually questions.

I do hope that the XCP team's recent progress towards becoming an independent product is a success - sooner rather than later. They already have some big companies betting on them. I could go on for quite a while on subjects like this - if XCP-ng has an open position that pays roughly $100K/year for someone in the top 5% of skill and talent in the global IT\IS field, let me know. 😛

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/10971https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/10971Wed, 24 Apr 2019 01:04:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019 on Tue, 23 Apr 2019 22:52:51 GMT]]>@olivierlambert

  1. True, but when your backup is a few 100 GB... you don't care.
  2. They don't need the rest, as there's no other HW anyways.
  3. This argument won't make much companys pay thousands of € extra, over the years.

I absolutely have no clue how tape drives work, software wise.
Telling you hardwarespecs of tapes, drives and versions and compatibility most likely won't help you.
I can use it, and maybe, I'd could do the efford to test stuff on older hardware and give feedback - but for now, that's it.

Edit: I saw that HPE supports you, so maybe you have a chance to get informations form them, as they sell tape drives (HPE Ultrium/StoreEver... LTO) and should be able to support you with informations. They helped me once with configuring XS for use with HPE MSA.

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/10962https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/10962Tue, 23 Apr 2019 22:52:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019 on Tue, 23 Apr 2019 22:30:47 GMT]]>
  • Other companies aren't giving flat pricing for their backup solution
  • XOA isn't just a backup solution
  • Other solutions aren't Open Source

    • So as you can see, it's very different 😉

    About contributing: already doing some specs (how to access a tape drive?) would help to improve XO.

    ]]>    https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/10958https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/10958Tue, 23 Apr 2019 22:30:47 GMT    <![CDATA[Reply to XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019 on Tue, 23 Apr 2019 22:27:54 GMT]]>@olivierlambert I know what you mean, but other companies have that offers and survive, too. Of course the lower priced offers are more restricted, but that's fine for small companies. I do contribute here and there to some things, but my time isn't endless, nor is my knowledge.
    I'm admin, not a coder. 😉

    ]]>    https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/10957https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/10957Tue, 23 Apr 2019 22:27:54 GMT    <![CDATA[Reply to XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019 on Tue, 23 Apr 2019 21:37:55 GMT]]>Clearly, in a niche market like this, very cheap one time fees aren't a viable solution to survive (because the market is too small). Cheap but recurrent is already more doable (hence XOA Starter for example, or XCP-ng Standard).

    Also, if you really can't spend a dime on it, use it without support for free (and be the support if needed). And ideally, contribute 🙂

    To give you some hints with basic maths, when you need approx 100k€ per month for a decent dev team, how many recurrent XOA Starter do you need to pay for it? vs how many Premium? You can see one of those 2 is achievable, the other is really harder because of the market size. And it's even worse with a one time fee: you need the same amount of new customer every year, not to earn money, just to cover your expenses. Take this info in perspective, this will give you a better view about the cost to develop software 😉

    ]]>    https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/10955https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/10955Tue, 23 Apr 2019 21:37:55 GMT    <![CDATA[Reply to XenServer 8.0 - Major update due Q1 2019 on Tue, 23 Apr 2019 19:51:36 GMT]]>@olivierlambert which is why you, sometimes, better just release and deliver unfinished stuff with an update - unless it's some very important core funcionality.
    Also I don't expect 8.0 to be the next LTSR - IIRC they want to bring that one later in the year, which would mean: Most people won't care, if they deliver something (a bit) later.

    I hope XCP-ng will become independend, but for now I see a lot of work and money...
    I simply can't bring any licensed models to some smaller customers, as the fees are too high, relative to their pretty small servers. So an option to pay a smallter amount, idially a one time fee... maybe you bring something on the road (same applies to XOA).

    ]]>    https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/10950https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/10950Tue, 23 Apr 2019 19:51:36 GMT