<![CDATA[Bringing modern virtualization in the Arm-powered Datacenter]]>(sorry I'm catching up being late posting our news here)

We are thrilled to announce the start of a technical collaboration project between Vates, the creator of the innovative open-source virtualization stack XCP-ng & Xen Orchestra, and Ampere Computing, pioneer in energy-efficient & high performance arm-based processors.

https://vates.tech/blog/bringing-modern-virtualization-in-the-arm-powered-datacenter/

Feel free to react or ask questions!

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/topic/8712/bringing-modern-virtualization-in-the-arm-powered-datacenterRSS for NodeSat, 11 Apr 2026 20:11:37 GMTThu, 28 Mar 2024 06:35:45 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Bringing modern virtualization in the Arm-powered Datacenter on Wed, 26 Mar 2025 03:07:33 GMT]]>@olivierlambert

The only place running XCP-ng on things like an RK3588 make sense is for home lab stuff, I probably wouldn't even build work lab stuff on these. Never enough ram (so far) and limited cores, plus almost everything will need to be running in virtual processor architecture.

All that said, it might be neat to simulate these ARM processors in x86 so that we could create a VM of the Pi, etc.

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/91148https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/91148Wed, 26 Mar 2025 03:07:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Bringing modern virtualization in the Arm-powered Datacenter on Fri, 31 Jan 2025 18:58:44 GMT]]>@DustinB ROTFL

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/89127https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/89127Fri, 31 Jan 2025 18:58:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Bringing modern virtualization in the Arm-powered Datacenter on Fri, 31 Jan 2025 18:46:33 GMT]]>@olivierlambert said in Bringing modern virtualization in the Arm-powered Datacenter:

Hi,

Arm isn't like x86. A Raspberry Pi is VASTLY different than an Ampere machine. It's like expecting to have something working on both your smart watch and your desktop computer.

We'll move forward on Arm thanks to XCP-ng 9.0, but the main target will be server-grade hardware, not Raspi5. Maybe it will in the future, but it's not a priority and might require a LOT of work.

But come on, I really need to run a dozen or more VMs using bytes of ram each on a rPi.

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/89126https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/89126Fri, 31 Jan 2025 18:46:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Bringing modern virtualization in the Arm-powered Datacenter on Fri, 31 Jan 2025 18:29:43 GMT]]>Hi,

Arm isn't like x86. A Raspberry Pi is VASTLY different than an Ampere machine. It's like expecting to have something working on both your smart watch and your desktop computer.

We'll move forward on Arm thanks to XCP-ng 9.0, but the main target will be server-grade hardware, not Raspi5. Maybe it will in the future, but it's not a priority and might require a LOT of work.

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/89124https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/89124Fri, 31 Jan 2025 18:29:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Bringing modern virtualization in the Arm-powered Datacenter on Fri, 31 Jan 2025 14:06:19 GMT]]>Any news regarding the ARM?
Would like to test in on a rpi5

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/89114https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/89114Fri, 31 Jan 2025 14:06:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Bringing modern virtualization in the Arm-powered Datacenter on Wed, 16 Oct 2024 06:27:58 GMT]]>@olivierlambert thanks for investing in this. Great news!

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/84301https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/84301Wed, 16 Oct 2024 06:27:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Bringing modern virtualization in the Arm-powered Datacenter on Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:47:00 GMT]]>I think you don't get it. Getting the whole stack ported on Arm is a huge amount of work and FIRST we need to have XCP-ng 9.0 (or at least a prototype of it). We are talking years of work (depending on how many people working on it).

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/84202https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/84202Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:47:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Bringing modern virtualization in the Arm-powered Datacenter on Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:36:10 GMT]]>Thanks @olivierlambert,

Hope we have new one in Q1 2025. 👍

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/84198https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/84198Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:36:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Bringing modern virtualization in the Arm-powered Datacenter on Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:31:57 GMT]]>Hi,

No, it's in the backlog. The CPU works with Xen, but adapting the entire toolstack requires first a new platform, which is the goal of XCP-ng 9.0, so don't expect anything this year 🙂

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/84194https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/84194Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:31:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Bringing modern virtualization in the Arm-powered Datacenter on Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:17:17 GMT]]>Do we have first release for Arm processor?

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/84184https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/84184Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:17:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Bringing modern virtualization in the Arm-powered Datacenter on Fri, 29 Mar 2024 09:50:25 GMT]]>@gskger XCP-NG on ARM/Ampere will be huge!!!!
The running cost of those machines is a big win over x86. Power is expensive in Europe. Hetzner is in full swing on that front.
And not everything runs in Windows 😉 I guess it's only the smaller fraction of all the VM's in the world.

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/74465https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/74465Fri, 29 Mar 2024 09:50:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Bringing modern virtualization in the Arm-powered Datacenter on Fri, 29 Mar 2024 09:39:46 GMT]]>@manilx True. Adapting XCP-ng for Arm64 will still open up many possibilities for managing cloud native environments or environments that need to scale BIG. Maybe one day Windows on ARM will be a thing. In the meantime have a look at Jeff Gerlings blog post on running Windows on Altere Altra Max.

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/74463https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/74463Fri, 29 Mar 2024 09:39:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Bringing modern virtualization in the Arm-powered Datacenter on Fri, 29 Mar 2024 09:35:48 GMT]]>If you are running an Arm server, you will need to run Arm guests obviously 🙂 I'm not expecting (at least now) an emulation layer whatsoever. That could be a good project for a company doing few hundreds millions in revenue though 😛

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/74462https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/74462Fri, 29 Mar 2024 09:35:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Bringing modern virtualization in the Arm-powered Datacenter on Fri, 29 Mar 2024 09:08:32 GMT]]>@gskger Running Debian server on a Hexner Ampere machine and one has to install the ARM version. Not x86.

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/74461https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/74461Fri, 29 Mar 2024 09:08:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Bringing modern virtualization in the Arm-powered Datacenter on Fri, 29 Mar 2024 08:30:52 GMT]]>@olivierlambert I assume that @lawrence888 is asking for x86 guest OS support for VM and probably not only for Linux distros that support ARM (like Debian, Ubuntu, RHEL, Rocky, ...) but also for Windows Server as a guest OS? There is some ARM support for Windows 11 Pro as far as I know.

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/74459https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/74459Fri, 29 Mar 2024 08:30:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Bringing modern virtualization in the Arm-powered Datacenter on Fri, 29 Mar 2024 08:09:53 GMT]]>What do you mean?

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/74458https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/74458Fri, 29 Mar 2024 08:09:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Bringing modern virtualization in the Arm-powered Datacenter on Thu, 28 Mar 2024 21:19:09 GMT]]>@olivierlambert compatibility with x86 VM?

]]>https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/74451https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/74451Thu, 28 Mar 2024 21:19:09 GMT