@danp I can, but again, why when I don't have to with the alternatives. I quite like XCP and XOA, but all this faffing around to administer a single instance, makes me reticent to start migrating the other nodes off proxmox.

I'll check back in and try running it again in a couple of years to see if the landscape has improved. I simply don't have the time to hack together a working system just to see if it is as good as I think it is.

I understand that it's an open-source product that they need to monetize to keep the project running and relevant. I would even pay for a 'labber edition with community support but all the actual features in one place, however, they don't offer an option for me at all.

@danp So the homelabber like me has no good option then... I can build from sources but lose out on features in XOA, or I can run free but lose out on features that are in paid tiers that I can't pay for even if I wanted to.

Given the above pain in the ***, why should I bother with XCP-ng? I can't recommend we use it at work because I can't gain the requisite knowledge to feel familiar with it. When I have options like Proxmox, VMUG, Hyper-V, etc available for free/cheap that I can stand up and use full functionality for as long as I need in a lab environment, why deal with this feature effery in my limited free time?

According to https://xen-orchestra.com/#!/xo-pricing
Hub is available to all tiers. However if I build from source, Hub shows as not available.

I built from sources with Jarli's script about 5 days ago.