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      PessimistTech @ravenet
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      @ravenet I have not tried with the rocm backend yet, but I will give that a whirl. When using the GPUs it never completes the model load.

      For testing I was just using the docker run command from the lemonade server docs.

      docker run -d \
      	--name lemonade-server \
      	-p 13305:13305 \
      	-v lemonade-cache:/root/.cache/huggingface \
      	-v lemonade-llama:/opt/lemonade/llama \
      	-v lemonade-recipe:/root/.cache/lemonade \
      	--device=/dev/kfd \
      	--device=/dev/dri \
      	ghcr.io/lemonade-sdk/lemonade-server:latest
      

      Command output:

      lspci -vv -s 00:08.0 | grep -E "Region [0-9]|LnkSta:"
      	Region 0: Memory at 1000000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32G]
      	Region 2: Memory at c0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
      	Region 4: I/O ports at c300 [size=256]
      	Region 5: Memory at e0800000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]
      		LnkSta:	Speed 32GT/s, Width x16
      
      lspci -vv -s 00:08.0 | grep -iE AtomicOP
      			 AtomicOpsCap: 32bit+ 64bit+ 128bitCAS-
      			 AtomicOpsCtl: ReqEn+
      
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        ravenet @PessimistTech
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        @PessimistTech

        switch to rocm-nightly, as that's required to bring support for our ai pro 9700

        docker exec lemonade-server lemonade config set llamacpp.backend=rocm
        docker exec lemonade-server lemonade config set rocm_channel=nightly
        docker restart lemonade-server
        

        The second line is important. This GPU is gfx1201 and the rocm-stable channel doesn't have HIP kernels for it yet. If you switch to rocm backend without setting the channel to nightly, it silently falls back to CPU with no error — you'll just see terrible speeds and an idle GPU. Ask me how I know.

        Restart is needed for the backend change to take effect, and the config survives restarts since the docs' run command already mounts the lemonade-recipe volume where it lives.

        One more thing I'd add to your docker run: the --init flag, right after docker run -d. Without an init process in the container, a failed/hung model load can leave the container wedged in D-state and you end up force-killing it. I keep it permanently in my compose (init: true) after learning this the hard way.

        Good news is your lspci output looks healthy — Region 0 at 32G in the guest and AtomicOpsCtl ReqEn+ means your BAR and atomics are fine, which was the failure mode on my end originally. So this is likely just backend/kernel config, not the passthrough itself.

        After the restart you can confirm it's actually on GPU by watching VRAM fill during model load:

        watch -n1 'cat /sys/class/drm/card*/device/mem_info_vram_used'
        

        If that stays flat while a model loads, you're on CPU fallback.

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          PessimistTech @ravenet
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          @ravenet well, applied those updates and still the same results unfortunately...

          I am definitely seeing load on the GPU, so it is able to start the process, lemonade server just sits waiting logging
          2026-07-08 20:06:06.477 [Debug] (WrappedServer) Still waiting for llama-server...
          while the GPUs are sitting there with the model in mem (or at least the correct amount of mem for the model size being consumed).

          looks like the rocm backend is using version b1292 which does note the correct gfx1201 model in the release notes.

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            ravenet @PessimistTech
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            @PessimistTech
            Try pass through just 1 gpu. See where that gets you

            Edit:
            actually, possibly faster way to test the single-GPU theory without touching passthrough — just hide one card from ROCm:

            docker run -d \
                --name lemonade-server \
                --init \
                -e HIP_VISIBLE_DEVICES=0 \
                -p 13305:13305 \
                -v lemonade-cache:/root/.cache/huggingface \
                -v lemonade-llama:/opt/lemonade/llama \
                -v lemonade-recipe:/root/.cache/lemonade \
                --device=/dev/kfd \
                --device=/dev/dri \
                ghcr.io/lemonade-sdk/lemonade-server:latest
            

            If it loads and serves with one GPU visible, the problem is apparently cross-GPU peer-to-peer under Xen. With two passed-through devices, llama.cpp splits the model and the first cross-device sync tries P2P DMA through the virtual root complex — ROCm reports peer access as available but the transaction never completes, so the fence waits forever. Model in VRAM, llama-server alive but frozen. That would explain why it dies after the memory is allocated rather than during load. (Related: even on my single card I get bursts of sdma0 fence fallback messages under Xen from lost interrupts — harmless for me, but on a P2P path a lost fence is fatal.)

            Two things to grab while it's hung, so we know for sure where it's stuck:

            
            docker exec lemonade-server ps -eo pid,stat,wchan:32,cmd | grep llama
            

            If llama-server shows state D with a wchan in amdgpu fence/ring wait, it's wedged in the kernel driver, not userspace. Also check guest dmesg during the hang for ring timeout / fence messages:

            sudo dmesg -w | grep -iE "amdgpu|sdma|ring|fence"
            

            If single-GPU works and you want both cards back, a couple of things to try before giving up on dual:

            • -e HSA_ENABLE_SDMA=0 — routes copies through shader blits instead of the SDMA engines; it's the standard workaround for ROCm fence hangs inside VMs

            • keep the split on one device via lemonade: docker exec lemonade-server lemonade config set llamacpp.args="--split-mode none" then restart — both GPUs visible but no cross-device traffic

            Worst case, two VMs with one GPU each works around the P2P problem entirely and you can load-balance in front.

            Fingers crossed

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              ravenet @ravenet
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              @pessimisttech one thing I realized we never actually confirmed — we've only seen BAR info for one of your cards (you ran -s 00:08.0). Can you run it against all AMD devices in the guest:

              sudo lspci -vv -d 1002: | grep -E "Region 0|LnkSta:"
              

              and check that both GPUs show Region 0 at [size=32G]?

              Reason I ask: hvmloader sizes the guest MMIO space automatically, and it clearly handles one 32GB BAR fine (both our single-card outputs prove that). But two cards need 64GB+ of BAR space and I've never seen anyone confirm the auto-sizing copes with that. If your second GPU got squeezed down to 256M, that's the exact failure mode I originally had on my single card before enabling Resizable BAR — driver wedges in D-state with no error, model appears to load, llama-server never comes up. It would also explain the "some workloads fine, some not" pattern: anything that only touches GPU1 (like ollama, which apparently defaults to a single card when the model fits) works, anything that splits across both hangs.

              If GPU2 does show a small Region 0, there's a VM param worth trying:

              xe vm-param-set uuid=<vm-uuid> platform:mmio_hole_size=137438953472
              

              (128GB, needs the VM fully shut down and cold booted, not rebooted). Fair warning that I haven't tested this myself — my single card worked with host BIOS ReBAR alone and hvmloader did the rest — so treat it as an experiment. It's also historically a below-4GB hole setting and these BARs live in high address space, so it may turn out to be the wrong knob entirely. If it doesn't change anything, that's useful info too.

              If both GPUs already show 32G, then BAR sizing is ruled out and it's back to the cross-GPU angle — in which case the single-GPU test result (HIP_VISIBLE_DEVICES=0) plus the ps/wchan output while hung would be the thing to look at, and probably worth summoning @teddyastie with the findings since P2P DMA between two passthrough devices under Xen is hypervisor territory, not config.

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                PessimistTech @ravenet
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                @ravenet
                Thanks for the ideas!

                Here's the outcome of the tests
                ps -eo pid,stat,wchan:32,cmd | grep llama:

                62 Rl   -                                /root/.cache/lemonade/bin/llamacpp/rocm-nightly/llama-server -m /root/.cache/huggingface/hub/models--unsloth--Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-GGUF/snapshots/a483e9e6cbd595906af30beda3187c2663a1118c/Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf --ctx-size 262144 --port 8001 --jinja --metrics --mmproj /root/.cache/huggingface/hub/models--unsloth--Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-GGUF/snapshots/a483e9e6cbd595906af30beda3187c2663a1118c/mmproj-F16.gguf --reasoning-format auto --no-webui --temp 1.0 --top-p 0.95 --top-k 20 --min-p 0.00 --repeat-penalty 1.0 --chat-template-kwargs {"preserve_thinking":true}
                

                sudo dmesg -w | grep -iE "amdgpu|sdma|ring|fence":
                dmesgout.txt

                Same overall results... I even re-ran the same tests after removing the 2nd GPU from the PCI passthrough settings and still the same...

                I also seem to run into an issue where the GPU tends to get stuck after some of these tests. Even rebooting gets stuck waiting for llama server processes to stop and I end up having to force power off. Not sure if that is related as I get the same output on the first test, but it may be worth noting.

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                  ravenet @PessimistTech
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                  @PessimistTech said:

                  @ravenet
                  Thanks for the ideas!

                  Here's the outcome of the tests
                  ps -eo pid,stat,wchan:32,cmd | grep llama:

                  62 Rl   -                                /root/.cache/lemonade/bin/llamacpp/rocm-nightly/llama-server -m /root/.cache/huggingface/hub/models--unsloth--Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-GGUF/snapshots/a483e9e6cbd595906af30beda3187c2663a1118c/Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-UD-Q4_K_XL.gguf --ctx-size 262144 --port 8001 --jinja --metrics --mmproj /root/.cache/huggingface/hub/models--unsloth--Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-GGUF/snapshots/a483e9e6cbd595906af30beda3187c2663a1118c/mmproj-F16.gguf --reasoning-format auto --no-webui --temp 1.0 --top-p 0.95 --top-k 20 --min-p 0.00 --repeat-penalty 1.0 --chat-template-kwargs {"preserve_thinking":true}
                  

                  sudo dmesg -w | grep -iE "amdgpu|sdma|ring|fence":
                  dmesgout.txt

                  Same overall results... I even re-ran the same tests after removing the 2nd GPU from the PCI passthrough settings and still the same...

                  I also seem to run into an issue where the GPU tends to get stuck after some of these tests. Even rebooting gets stuck waiting for llama server processes to stop and I end up having to force power off. Not sure if that is related as I get the same output on the first test, but it may be worth noting.

                  found it — or at least found a very large problem. Your kernel command line has amdgpu.msi=0:

                  Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-6.8.0-134-generic root=... ro amdgpu.msi=0 console=tty1 console=ttyS0
                  

                  That disables MSI interrupts for the GPU driver entirely, and your dmesg shows exactly what that costs: fence fallback timer messages every half-second on both cards from the moment the driver loads, before any workload runs. The driver is surviving on a polling fallback instead of interrupts. My card throws those messages in occasional bursts under load (lost interrupts); yours throws them constantly (no interrupts). Under load that degrades into what's in your log: sdma0 ring timeout → ring reset fails → full MODE1 GPU reset → "VRAM is lost" → your loaded model evaporates while llama-server keeps waiting. It also explains your stuck reboots — the traces at the end show unkillable fence waits in the reset path.
                  Remove amdgpu.msi=0 from grub, update-grub, reboot the VM, then verify interrupts are actually flowing:

                  grep -i amdgpu /proc/interrupts
                  

                  You should see MSI/MSI-X vectors for the amdgpu devices with counts that climb while a model loads. Then watch dmesg during a load — occasional fence fallback bursts are survivable (I get them too under Xen), but the constant 0.5s drumbeat should be gone.

                  Out of curiosity — did you add msi=0 while chasing the "no interrupts registered" issue from your first post? If you re-enable MSI and interrupts still don't flow, that's the real bug and exactly what the Vates folks will want to see, especially since you still have the debug Xen + iommu=debug boot — xl dmesg from dom0 while the VM is loading a model would show whether MSIs are being injected.

                  One more thing for after interrupts are fixed: your llama-server command shows --ctx-size 262144. A 256K context KV cache on top of that model is a huge allocation for a 32GB card and can silently spill into GTT and crawl. I'd validate at something modest first (8192), confirm it serves, then step the context up while watching VRAM. That's the approach I'm using on mine.

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                    PessimistTech @ravenet
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                    @ravenet ooh, thanks for the callout, that is a config that is left over from some earlier debugging. I'll remove that and try again.

                    I had a similar thought about the model size of the qwen 3.6 model (chosen intially for running on both GPUs). I also tested with llama3.2 for a much smaller test.

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                      PessimistTech @ravenet
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                      @ravenet welp, removed the amdgpu.msi=0 option, and I am seeing 0 interrupts in the /proc/interrupts file, and overall behavior is still the same...

                      106:          0          0          0          0          0          0  xen-pirq    -msi       amdgpu
                      
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                        PessimistTech @PessimistTech
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                        for future reference here is the xl dmesg at this point
                        xldmesg.txt

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