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    Nvidia Quadro P400 not working on Ubuntu server via GPU/PCIe passthrough

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      TheFrisianClause @olivierlambert
      last edited by TheFrisianClause

      @olivierlambert
      Hmm yeah its quite a hassle with these drivers for some reason.... If you need some extra information which could help let me know... I can send some other details which are now on the proxmox host and the Ubuntu VM?

      How about the VFIO modules which I also mentioned earlier? Is this something that has to be added to XCP-NG maybe? As I also have a topic on Reddit and this person has the same problem but then with an T400.
      https://www.reddit.com/r/XenServer/comments/r12p0q/pci_passthrough_quadro_p400_to_ubuntucentos_vm/hrlaqxl/?context=3

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        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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        If it's hypervisor detection, the "only" thing needed is a Xen modification, but this is not trivial (if it's really that). I can assume it's the case.

        In the meantime, can you double check if XCP-ng 7.6 is affected too? (last hope to check if it's not a regression).

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          TheFrisianClause @olivierlambert
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          @olivierlambert Can try that on my spare server, will try and see if I can do it today. I will update this once I am finished.

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            TheFrisianClause @TheFrisianClause
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            Currently I have no time to test this as the machine itself is also heavily used by other users.... But I believe the 7.6 version has this issue as well, as I remember testing this on version 7.x.

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              TheFrisianClause
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              Alright tested it with 7.6
              Seems to not work as well...

              [  165.594038] [drm] [nvidia-drm] [GPU ID 0x00000006] Loading driver
              [  165.594040] [drm] Initialized nvidia-drm 0.0.0 20160202 for 0000:00:06.0 on minor 1
              [  171.958377] NVRM: GPU 0000:00:06.0: RmInitAdapter failed! (0x22:0x56:667)
              [  171.958424] NVRM: GPU 0000:00:06.0: rm_init_adapter failed, device minor number 0
              [  171.963805] NVRM: GPU 0000:00:06.0: RmInitAdapter failed! (0x22:0x56:667)
              [  171.963848] NVRM: GPU 0000:00:06.0: rm_init_adapter failed, device minor number 0
              

              Same error....

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                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                Okay so at least "it's good news": it's not a regression 🙂 So I assume it's required to hide the hypervisor underneath.

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                  TheFrisianClause @olivierlambert
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                  @olivierlambert Yes I believe so, do you need more information on this?

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                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                    Not yet, I need to talk with Xen devs when I can on how to achieve that.

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                      TheFrisianClause @olivierlambert
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                      @olivierlambert Alright, thanks for the effort 🙂

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                        warriorcookie @olivierlambert
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                        @olivierlambert just wanted to clarify a couple things:
                        -nvidia drivers support passthrough recently on windows guests only. Linux guests are still unsupported.
                        -while most quadro cards are supported for passthrough including P4000, the P400 is excluded from support. It's considered consumer grade (GP107 basically a striped down gtx1050)
                        -might be a given but for those that stumble on this thread, both the video device and audio device need to be passed through separately as they show as separate devices under lspci.

                        I'm confident this is an issue with the nvidia driver disabling when it see's the CPUID hypervisor present bit.

                        On my hardware (SM x9 with e5-2667v2) proxmox and esxi both worked flawlessly with near bare metal performance but you're able to change the CPUID hypervisor present bit.

                        On xcp-ng 8.2 with windows guest it works with no issues.
                        Once I install Linux as the guest then smi-nvidia produces "no devices were found" even though it shows with lspci.

                        I'm trying to migrate from esxi. I'm jumping in on this thread as this is a major issue for me that would prevent me switching. Unfortunate as this project ticks all the other boxes that vmware failed to....

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                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                          Okay so it's "just" a matter of hiding the CPUID then 🙂 Thanks a lot for the detailed feedback @warriorcookie !

                          Let me push again on that feature request on my side, I'll see what we can do (and how much time/money to get a solution)

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                            warriorcookie
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                            Parralel work into what I think could be the solution, but stalled as of now: https://xcp-ng.org/forum/topic/4643/nested-virtualization-of-windows-hyper-v-on-xcp-ng/39

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                              TheFrisianClause @warriorcookie
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                              @warriorcookie Well this is a nice and detailed post, never knew about the CPUID though so I think that could be the problem here.

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                                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                It is, but it doesn't answer how much effort is needed to "solve it". ATM, there's no way to change it in Xen. So the great question is the modification scope required 🙂

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                                  warriorcookie @olivierlambert
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                                  @olivierlambert said in Nvidia Quadro P400 not working on Ubuntu server via GPU/PCIe passthrough:

                                  It is, but it doesn't answer how much effort is needed to "solve it". ATM, there's no way to change it in Xen. So the great question is the modification scope required 🙂

                                  My Pa always said "don't bring me a dead cat without a shovel..."

                                  Sorry, I'm all cats and no shovel today!

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                                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                    Maybe a better approach would be to modify Nvidia drivers to change or remove the check. After all, it should be only a kind of grep on the word Xen 🤔

                                    And obviously, this would be also against the EULA.

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                                      TheFrisianClause
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                                      Apparently this seem to be an bigger issue than thought or am I wrong thinking that?

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                                        warriorcookie @olivierlambert
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                                        @olivierlambert said in Nvidia Quadro P400 not working on Ubuntu server via GPU/PCIe passthrough:

                                        Maybe a better approach would be to modify Nvidia drivers to change or remove the check. After all, it should be only a kind of grep on the word Xen 🤔

                                        And obviously, this would be also against the EULA.

                                        I've found this but have not had time to play: https://github.com/DualCoder/vgpu_unlock

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                                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                          So the most advanced discussion within Xen about it, is here: https://lists.archive.carbon60.com/xen/devel/439501

                                          Nothing happened since sadly, but it might be a start. Also, hiding Xen will probably have a lot of consequences regarding performances (no PV drivers and so on)

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                                            TheFrisianClause @olivierlambert
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                                            @olivierlambert hmmm seems something, but why can this so easily be accomplished with Proxmox and even ESXi (Which I thought would be a pain considering the age of the P400). So if I for example would buy an nvidia K4000 I would be able to succesfully passthrough the GPU to Plex? (I don't know if you have done that)

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