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    • delafD Offline
      delaf @r1
      last edited by

      @r1 I do not manage to install the old kernel. Any idea?

      # yum downgrade "kernel == 4.19.19-6.0.10.1.xcpng8.1"
      Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
      Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
      Excluding mirror: updates.xcp-ng.org
       * xcp-ng-base: mirrors.xcp-ng.org
      Excluding mirror: updates.xcp-ng.org
       * xcp-ng-updates: mirrors.xcp-ng.org
      Resolving Dependencies
      --> Running transaction check
      ---> Package kernel.x86_64 0:4.19.19-6.0.10.1.xcpng8.1 will be a downgrade
      ---> Package kernel.x86_64 0:4.19.19-6.0.12.1.xcpng8.1 will be erased
      --> Finished Dependency Resolution
      Error: Trying to remove "kernel", which is protected
      
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      • DanpD Online
        Danp Pro Support Team
        last edited by

        @delaf I ran into the same thing recently. See solution below --

        https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/33291

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        • delafD Offline
          delaf @stormi
          last edited by

          @stormi I have a server with only search extra built-in weak-updates override updates. We will see if it is better.

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          • delafD Offline
            delaf @Danp
            last edited by

            @danp Thank you. I have downgraded one server.

            @stormi So i have :

            • one server with 4.19.19-6.0.10.1.xcpng8.1
            • one server with kmemleak kernel
            • one server with search extra built-in weak-updates override updates
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            • delafD Offline
              delaf @delaf
              last edited by

              @stormi @r1
              Four days later, I get:

              • one server (266) with alt-kernel: still no problem
              • one server (268) with 4.19.19-6.0.10.1.xcpng8.1: no more problem!
              • one server (272) with kmemleak kernel: no memleak detected, but the problem is present
              • one server (273) with search extra built-in weak-updates override updates: problem still present
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              • stormiS Offline
                stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
                last edited by

                @delaf Excellent news, especially if you can replicate on another host to be sure.

                This thread is older than kernel-4.19.19-6.0.10.1.xcpng8.1 (especially in @dave's case), but it wouldn't be unlikely that several distinct memory leak causes exist.

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                  r1 XCP-ng Team @delaf
                  last edited by

                  @delaf said in Alert: Control Domain Memory Usage:

                  one server (268) with 4.19.19-6.0.10.1.xcpng8.1: no more problem!

                  Yeah, we need to be sure that this is a stable kernel and somewhere after this, the memory leak seems to have introduced.

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                  • daveD Offline
                    dave
                    last edited by

                    I currently have:

                    top - 13:35:31 up 59 days, 17:11,  1 user,  load average: 0.43, 0.36, 0.34
                    Tasks: 646 total,   1 running, 436 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
                    %Cpu(s):  0.8 us,  1.1 sy,  0.0 ni, 97.5 id,  0.3 wa,  0.0 hi,  0.1 si,  0.2 st
                    KiB Mem : 12205936 total,   149152 free, 10627080 used,  1429704 buff/cache
                    KiB Swap:  1048572 total,  1048572 free,        0 used.  1153360 avail Mem
                    
                    
                    top - 13:35:54 up 35 days, 17:29,  1 user,  load average: 0.54, 0.73, 0.77
                    Tasks: 489 total,   1 running, 324 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
                    %Cpu(s):  3.5 us,  3.4 sy,  0.0 ni, 92.7 id,  0.0 wa,  0.0 hi,  0.0 si,  0.4 st
                    KiB Mem : 12207996 total,   155084 free,  9388032 used,  2664880 buff/cache
                    KiB Swap:  1048572 total,  1048572 free,        0 used.  2394220 avail Mem
                    
                    

                    both with:

                    # uname -a
                    Linux xs01 4.19.0+1 #1 SMP Thu Jun 11 16:18:33 CEST 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
                    # yum list installed | grep kernel
                    kernel.x86_64                   4.19.19-6.0.11.1.xcpng8.1   @xcp-ng-updates
                    
                    

                    shall i test something?

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                    • U Offline
                      umbradark
                      last edited by

                      I have a set of hosts on kernel-4.19.19-6.0.11.1.xcpng8.1 and I believe I'm hitting this as well. The OOM seems to kill openvswitch, which takes the host offline and in most cases, the VMs as well.

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                      • stormiS Offline
                        stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
                        last edited by

                        So, the difference between 4.19.19-6.0.10.1.xcpng8.1 and 4.19.19-6.0.11.1.xcpng8.1 is two patches meant to reduce the performance overhead of the CROSSTalk vulnerability mitigations.

                        So, assuming from @delaf's test results that one of those patches introduced the memory leak, I have built

                        Now here are the tests that you can do:

                        • Reproduce @delaf's findings by running kernel-4.19.19-6.0.10.1.xcpng8.1: no more memory leaks?
                        • Test this kernel I built with patch 53 disabled: https://nextcloud.vates.fr/index.php/s/YXWCSEwo8SWkfAZ
                        • Test this kernel I built with patch 62 disabled: https://nextcloud.vates.fr/index.php/s/arj5YfdrkjMKbBy

                        If one of the patches is the cause of the memory leak, then one of the last two should still cause a memory leak and the other one not.

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                        • delafD Offline
                          delaf @stormi
                          last edited by delaf

                          @stormi I have installed the two kernels

                          272 ~]# yum list installed kernel | grep kernel
                          kernel.x86_64                   4.19.19-6.0.11.1.0.1.patch53disabled.xcpng8.1
                          
                          273 ~]# yum list installed kernel | grep kernel
                          kernel.x86_64                   4.19.19-6.0.11.1.0.1.patch62disabled.xcpng8.1
                          

                          I have removed the modification in /etc/modprobe.d/dist.conf on server 273.

                          We have to wait a little bit now 😉

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                          • stormiS Offline
                            stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
                            last edited by

                            FYI, the kernel with kmemleak support did detect something for a user who has a support ticket related to dom0 memory usage.

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                            • delafD Offline
                              delaf @stormi
                              last edited by

                              @stormi For the kernel-4.19.19-6.0.10.1.xcpng8.1 test, i'm not sure it solve the problem because I get a small memory increase. We have to wait a bit more 😕

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                              • delafD Offline
                                delaf @delaf
                                last edited by olivierlambert

                                @stormi

                                • server 266 with alt-kernel: still no problem.
                                  Screen Shot 2020-12-02 at 10.08.47.png

                                • server 268 with 4.19.19-6.0.10.1.xcpng8.1: the problem has begun some days ago after some stable days.
                                  Screen Shot 2020-12-02 at 10.03.57.png

                                • server 272 with 4.19.19-6.0.11.1.0.1.patch53disabled.xcpng8.1:
                                  Screen Shot 2020-12-02 at 10.05.47.png )

                                • server 273 with 4.19.19-6.0.11.1.0.1.patch62disabled.xcpng8.1:
                                  Screen Shot 2020-12-02 at 10.05.50.png

                                It seems that 4.19.19-6.0.11.1.0.1.patch62disabled.xcpng8.1 is more stable than 4.19.19-6.0.11.1.0.1.patch53disabled.xcpng8.1. But it is a but early to be sure.

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                                • delafD Offline
                                  delaf @delaf
                                  last edited by delaf

                                  @stormi @r1 server 273 with 4.19.19-6.0.11.1.0.1.patch62disabled.xcpng8.1 is still stable and 272 has the memory problem.

                                  • 272
                                    Screen Shot 2020-12-15 at 14.50.31.png

                                  • 273
                                    Screen Shot 2020-12-15 at 14.50.40.png

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                                  • stormiS Offline
                                    stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
                                    last edited by

                                    Thanks. It looks like I'm doomed to see seemingly contradictory results for every kernel-related issue (this one, and an other one regarding network performance): you don't have any leaks without patch 62, but you had leaks with kernel 4.19.19-6.0.10.1.xcpng8.1 which doesn't have that patch either. So it's hard to conclude anything 😕

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                                    • R Offline
                                      rblvlvl
                                      last edited by rblvlvl

                                      Hey Guys,

                                      we are facing the same issue with xcp 8.1.
                                      We can't figure out what uses all this memory (8GB) or how to reduce it. Restarting the Toolstack did nothing and we can't afford a downtime because everything runs in production. Similar systems with same configurations don't show such a behavior.

                                      I can provide you with some output from our system, maybe you can see something or help us finding a solution.

                                      free -m

                                                    total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
                                      Mem:           7912        7595          82          33         234          62
                                      Swap:          1023         216         807
                                      

                                      xl top

                                            NAME  STATE   CPU(sec) CPU(%)     MEM(k) MEM(%)  MAXMEM(k) MAXMEM(%) VCPUS NETS NETTX(k) NETRX(k) VBDS   VBD_OO    VBD_RD     VBD_WR   VBD_RSECT   VBD_WSECT SSID
                                        Domain-0 -----r    7308446   52.1    8388608    3.1    8388608       3.1    16    0        0        0    0        0         0          0           0           0    0
                                      

                                      xe vm-param-list uuid | grep memory

                                                               memory-actual ( RO): 8589934592
                                                               memory-target ( RO): <unknown>
                                                             memory-overhead ( RO): 84934656
                                                           memory-static-max ( RW): 8589934592
                                                          memory-dynamic-max ( RW): 8589934592
                                                          memory-dynamic-min ( RW): 8589934592
                                                           memory-static-min ( RW): 8589934592
                                                                      memory (MRO): <not in database>
                                      

                                      lsmod and grub.cfg
                                      lsmod.txt
                                      grub-cgf.txt

                                      top output
                                      Bildschirmfoto 2020-12-30 um 08.55.32.png

                                      Tell me if you need more information or if you have any idea. Thanks.

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                                      • olivierlambertO Offline
                                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                        last edited by

                                        We need more details on the host.

                                        1. Hardware detail (NICs, server model)
                                        2. If all your hardware is fully BIOS/firmware up to date
                                        3. The kind of storage used (iSCSI, FCoE, NFS?)

                                        So far, we couldn't find a real common thing between people, and that's make hard to find the root cause.

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                                          rblvlvl
                                          last edited by

                                          @olivierlambert

                                          It is a Dell PowerEdge R440 Version 2.6.3 with an LACP Bond and we use an NFS Storage.

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                                          • olivierlambertO Offline
                                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                            last edited by

                                            That doesn't answer all my questions 😉

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