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    26xx v2 not supported?

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    • U Offline
      ube
      last edited by

      Hi,

      I’m a bit confused, flabbergasted to be frank, checking the HCL at Citrix I can’t find 26xx v2? V3 is there but not v2..

      So am I using the HCL wrong or are they unsupported (which could explain bad performance in xcp-ng)?

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      • olivierlambertO Offline
        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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        Hi,

        Not supported just means Citrix won't have security fixes for those CPUs, simply because Intel isn't shipping microcode fixes anymore for those CPUs.

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          ube
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          Ah. Then the question is why I’m running into a huge performance hit when running more than one cpu in a guest. Running a loop where I create and remove a alpine docker container runs fine (.7s per execution) on one cpu but can take up to 45s when adding CPUs.

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          • olivierlambertO Offline
            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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            Do you have perf mode enabled in your BIOS? It's obviously not normal.

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              ube
              last edited by

              Perf mode as in performance mode for the CPU? Enabled, yes. Did some pinning of 4 cpus in dom0 and I got better numbers.. I'll guess I'll have to do some digging in turning off power management as well..

              It's one of those dirt cheap motherboards from China, so I'll have som guess work to do.

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                ube
                last edited by

                Strangest thing, I don't see these performance hits when using Proxmox.

                Another problem I'm seeing is that I have a 50% chance of actually booting xcp. Every other boot I dont get to the splash screen. Probably should do a clean install of this server, but 8.X installer doesn't work either. Seen some other people having the same problem.. 😕

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                • olivierlambertO Offline
                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                  last edited by

                  Even with the alt kernel? What other people?

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                    ube
                    last edited by

                    Alt did not work either.. "Other people" include bug #283. 🙂

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                      ube
                      last edited by

                      But as of now I'm treating this as a classic PEBCAK. 😄

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                      • olivierlambertO Offline
                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                        Do you have any boot trace or serial so we can understand where it stops?

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                          ube
                          last edited by ube

                          Only got an image of the boot (pardon the dirty screen. 😄 ), I don't have a serial port on this motherboard yet.

                          Did some testing.. Booting with nosmp allows it (the installer) to start.. So I don't know what's going on here..

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                          • olivierlambertO Offline
                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                            That might be a Xen bug at the first place, with some hardware doing strange thing.

                            What's your hardware? Intel servers?

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                              ube
                              last edited by

                              Oh it's one of those cheap-ass mobos from AliExpress. 😄

                              Setting dom0_max_vcpu=1-1 seems to allow boot. Now for benchmarking with one dom0 cpu. 🙂

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                              • olivierlambertO Offline
                                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                I bet on a weird chip issues that confuses Xen heavily. However, Xen devs are interested to have access to this kind of "weird" hardware.

                                Having a serial access in the future might be interesting (to try different Xen parameters, like noreboot and so on to see what's going on)

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                                  ube
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                                  Yeah, I've got a DB9 port in the mail.. So I'm off to xen.org to do some reporting later on.

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                                    gskger Top contributor
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                                    Just did a fresh install of XCP-ng 8.1 followed by yum update on a Dell R720 with two Intel Xeon CPU E5-2640 v2. No problems during the install process but testing with load on the CPUs is pending. Any suggestions how to test for the OPs performance issues? The host sucessfully came every time I rebooted it.

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                                      tarkh @ube
                                      last edited by tarkh

                                      @ube hello! I have the same MoBo (Atermiter X79 turbo v1.3) and same problem with XCP-NG 8.2. Can't boot in regular mode, stops exactly at the same point. Mt CPU is little bit different - 2689 V1. I can boot only with nosmp flag (or dom0_max_vcpu=1-1), so basically there is something with multiprocessing. In BIOS multithreading is enabled and virtualisation too. With some testing tool (Memtest86 or AIDA) I do see processor info with 8 cores / 16 threads, also Hiren's BootCD PE boots fine into the portable windows.
                                      Did you solve your problem somehow?

                                      @olivierlambert hello! Can this error be related to CentOS? Is there a way to install XCP-NG on already installed CentOS? I'm just thinking of different ways of solving my issue.

                                      Thanks!

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                                      • olivierlambertO Offline
                                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                        No you can't "transform" CentOS to XCP-ng.

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