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    • olivierlambertO Offline
      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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      Yes, that would be possible I think 🙂

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        john.c @olivierlambert
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        @olivierlambert said in XO Lite: building an embedded UI in XCP-ng:

        Yes, that would be possible I think 🙂

        The disabling, not showing the login form while displaying the message would occur before even attempting the login. Don't forget the SSH and/or console would need disabling and/or inhibiting login to prevent by pass of Xen Orchestra as well as part of the lockdown.

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          Just upgraded my home network to 8.3.0 and I must say, it went flawlessly. Also my first time taking a look at XO-Lite. Also fantastic! Kudo's to the whole vates dev and testing team. This is a huge milestone.

          The only real feature for me that is missing from XO-Lite is the ability to shutdown/restart the host itself from the menu (I'm assuming this is still being added).

          Currently, I cant see a way to restart the host from XO-Lite. My XCPNG host runs headless, so when I needed to restart the host, I loaded XCPNG Center and shutdown the XOA VM, and then rebooted the host (only needed when applying host patches). This method wont work now with 8.3. I was forced to use the "force reboot" from XOA to complete the final patch/reboot steps.

          Without the control to restart/shutdown the host itself, the only other option is to enable SSH (when the host is headless). I would think that XO-Lite would "in theory" be more secure then leaving SSH open only for this scenario.

          Separately, I also run XCPNG/XOA at work (licensed), and currently we are waiting for XOSTOR to come out of beta before we upgrade/test it in our environment. Any ETA on XOSTOR going full version in 8.3 ?

          Looking forward to the future of this version and product.

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          • olivierlambertO Offline
            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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            No ETA but it's actively worked. More features are coming to XO Lite this month 🙂 (end of the month)

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              john.c @TheNorthernLight
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              @TheNorthernLight said in XO Lite: building an embedded UI in XCP-ng:

              Just upgraded my home network to 8.3.0 and I must say, it went flawlessly. Also my first time taking a look at XO-Lite. Also fantastic! Kudo's to the whole vates dev and testing team. This is a huge milestone.

              The only real feature for me that is missing from XO-Lite is the ability to shutdown/restart the host itself from the menu (I'm assuming this is still being added).

              Currently, I cant see a way to restart the host from XO-Lite. My XCPNG host runs headless, so when I needed to restart the host, I loaded XCPNG Center and shutdown the XOA VM, and then rebooted the host (only needed when applying host patches). This method wont work now with 8.3. I was forced to use the "force reboot" from XOA to complete the final patch/reboot steps.

              Without the control to restart/shutdown the host itself, the only other option is to enable SSH (when the host is headless). I would think that XO-Lite would "in theory" be more secure then leaving SSH open only for this scenario.

              Separately, I also run XCPNG/XOA at work (licensed), and currently we are waiting for XOSTOR to come out of beta before we upgrade/test it in our environment. Any ETA on XOSTOR going full version in 8.3 ?

              Looking forward to the future of this version and product.

              Leaving SSH open won't work as eventually its port will be found, then exploited (used maliciously to gain access to host). Also it would bypass the lock down feature, modelled after VMware ESXi lockdown.

              Anyway there's RPU & RPR both of which are available in the appropriate edition of XOA (Xen Orchestra Appliance) and also Xen Orchestra from Sources. The RPU will reboot each host in the pool after updating them. The RPR will reboot each host in the pool in sequence, before moving onto the next.

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              • TheNorthernLightT Offline
                TheNorthernLight @john.c
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                @john-c - Yes, except pool updates have never worked for us, as some of our VMs cannot be live migrated. So, we have to do it manually. Also, The XO-Lite feature I was talking about, is intended for single host scenarios (which is most common in home setups, where migration isnt possible).

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                • olivierlambertO Offline
                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                  FYI, next versions will have a way to shutdown a host, it's in the pipes 🙂

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