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    • delafD Offline
      delaf @delaf
      last edited by

      More informations:

      # rpm -ivh http://koji.xcp-ng.org/kojifiles/work/tasks/7620/17620/kernel-4.19.19-6.0.12.1.kmemleak.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64.rpm
Retrieving http://koji.xcp-ng.org/kojifiles/work/tasks/7620/17620/kernel-4.19.19-6.0.12.1.kmemleak.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64.rpm
Preparing...                          ################################# [100%]
    package kernel-4.19.19-6.0.12.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64 (which is newer than kernel-4.19.19-6.0.12.1.kmemleak.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64) is already installed
    file /boot/System.map-4.19.0+1 from install of kernel-4.19.19-6.0.12.1.kmemleak.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64 conflicts with file from package kernel-4.19.19-6.0.12.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64
    file /boot/config-4.19.0+1 from install of kernel-4.19.19-6.0.12.1.kmemleak.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64 conflicts with file from package kernel-4.19.19-6.0.12.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64
    file /boot/vmlinuz-4.19.0+1 from install of kernel-4.19.19-6.0.12.1.kmemleak.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64 conflicts with file from package kernel-4.19.19-6.0.12.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64
    file /lib/modules/4.19.0+1/kernel/fs/nfs/nfs.ko from install of kernel-4.19.19-6.0.12.1.kmemleak.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64 conflicts with file from package kernel-4.19.19-6.0.12.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64
    file /lib/modules/4.19.0+1/kernel/net/netfilter/nf_conntrack.ko from install of kernel-4.19.19-6.0.12.1.kmemleak.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64 conflicts with file from package kernel-4.19.19-6.0.12.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64
    file /lib/modules/4.19.0+1/modules.order from install of kernel-4.19.19-6.0.12.1.kmemleak.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64 conflicts with file from package kernel-4.19.19-6.0.12.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64
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      • stormiS Offline
        stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
        last edited by stormi

        I built a new kernel with memleak, which should install correctly. I've updated my post with the instructions above.

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        • delafD Offline
          delaf @stormi
          last edited by

          @stormi Ok thank you. The installation works.

          I made another test: use the kernel-alt 4.19.108 on one box. It seems I did not have the issue anymore!

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          • delafD Offline
            delaf @stormi
            last edited by

            On server with kmemleak kernel, I get this error:

            # echo scan > /sys/kernel/debug/kmemleak 
-bash: echo: write error: Device or resource busy

            Digging a litlle bit, and I found :

            # dmesg | grep memleak
[    0.677307] kmemleak: Kernel memory leak detector disabled
[    2.701225] kmemleak: Early log buffer exceeded (5128), please increase DEBUG_KMEMLEAK_EARLY_LOG_SIZE

            So kmemleak is still disabled as DEBUG_KMEMLEAK_EARLY_LOG_SIZE seems to be too small 😞
            @stormi Could you rebuild a kernel with an increased DEBUG_KMEMLEAK_EARLY_LOG_SIZE?

            Thank you!

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            • stormiS Offline
              stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
              last edited by

              Pinging @r1 about this.

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              • R Offline
                r1 XCP-ng Team @stormi
                last edited by

                @stormi @delaf will check this and do required changes.

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                • R Offline
                  r1 XCP-ng Team @r1
                  last edited by

                  @delaf and others, you can download and install and update from link which should work fine.

                  After the system is running for some time, user can # echo scan > /sys/kernel/debug/kmemleak and then # cat /sys/kernel/debug/kmemleak to see if there are any unreferenced objects floating in memory.

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                  • delafD Offline
                    delaf @r1
                    last edited by

                    @r1 installed and it works :

                    # dmesg | grep kmem
[    6.181218] kmemleak: Kernel memory leak detector initialized
[    6.181223] kmemleak: Automatic memory scanning thread started

                    I will check the leaks tomorrow.

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                    • delafD Offline
                      delaf @delaf
                      last edited by delaf

                      @r1 @stormi for now I don't have any memleak detected :

                      # uname -a
Linux bb0272.aquaray.com 4.19.0+1 #1 SMP Thu Nov 19 15:15:04 CET 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
# yum list installed | grep kernel
kernel.x86_64                   4.19.19-6.0.12.1.2.kmemleak.xcpng8.1
# cat /sys/kernel/debug/kmemleak
# echo scan > /sys/kernel/debug/kmemleak
# cat /sys/kernel/debug/kmemleak
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                      • delafD Offline
                        delaf @delaf
                        last edited by

                        FYI: I confirm that on the server running the alt kernel I do not have anymore the memleak problem :

                        # yum list installed | grep kernel
kernel.x86_64                   4.19.19-6.0.12.1.1.kmemleak.xcpng8.1
kernel-alt.x86_64               4.19.108-3.xcpng8.1         @xcp-ng-base
# uname -a
Linux bb0266.aquaray.com 4.19.108 #1 SMP Mon Mar 23 15:04:05 CET 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
#

                        Memory graph from this server :
                        Screen Shot 2020-11-20 at 12.14.54.png

                        Obviously, the alt-kernel has been installed ~2020-11-13.

                        On the server running the memleak kernel (since yesterday) :
                        Screen Shot 2020-11-20 at 12.16.21.png

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                        • olivierlambertO Offline
                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO @delaf
                          last edited by

                          @delaf Weird but interesting!

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                          • R Offline
                            r1 XCP-ng Team @olivierlambert
                            last edited by

                            @olivierlambert @delaf what we know from kmemleak so far is that it will only scan and report unreferenced objects. If any kernel module / kernel itself is still holding(referencing) the memory then it may not show up. We are evaluating other options to find this.

                            kernel-alt is more related to upstream, so either this issue is known and fixed in upstream or it might have been introduced from kernel updates.

                            The oldest kernel available is 4.19.19-6.0.10.1.xcpng8.1, is it possible to install it and see if the issue repeats?

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                            • stormiS Offline
                              stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
                              last edited by

                              kernel-alt also means that all the drivers used are buillt-in, no those from the driver packages that take precedence over the built-ins when running the main kernel.

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                                r1 XCP-ng Team @stormi
                                last edited by r1

                                Yes, all drivers are stock kernel modules for kernel-alt. It would be interesting to see the behavior by disabling updates and override. I think we can try both. 1st check if the downgraded kernel shows same symptoms and then disabling update drivers.

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                                • stormiS Offline
                                  stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
                                  last edited by stormi

                                  Ok, so now we know for sure that it's related to the kernel or one of the drivers.

                                  Let me summarize all the tests that users affected by the issue can do to help find what causes it:

                                  • Test with kmemleak, hoping that it may be able to detect something. No luck for now for @delaf who tried.
                                  • Test with the oldest kernel (4.19.19-6.0.10.1.xcpng8.1). I doubt it will yield results, but that would allow to be sure. If it does yield results, then it will allow to search towards a specific patch.
                                  • With the current kernel, give priority to built-in drivers. If this gives good results, this will mean that the leak is in one of the drivers that are provided through driver RPMs. Two ways:
                                    • A bit riskier but we'd still be interested in the results: disable them all so that only built-in kernel drivers are used. For this, edit /etc/modprobe.d/dist.conf and change search override updates extra built-in weak-updates into search extra built-in weak-updates override updates, then run depmod -a and reboot. Don't forget to restore the original contents after the tests.
                                    • Another way, that allows to select specific drivers one by one:
                                      • Identify a few drivers that you want to check in the output of lsmod. For example ixgbe.
                                      • Find where the currently used driver is on the filesystem: modinfo ixgbe | head -n 1
                                      • If the path contains "/updates/", it's not a kernel built-in. Rename the file to name_of_file.save. depmod -a. reboot. The kernel will then use its built-in driver.
                                      • If nothing changes, restore the file and try another.

                                  I also intend to build a new ixgbe driver, just in case we're lucky and it's the culprit, since every affected user uses it.

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                                  • delafD Offline
                                    delaf @r1
                                    last edited by

                                    @r1 I do not manage to install the old kernel. Any idea?

                                    # yum downgrade "kernel == 4.19.19-6.0.10.1.xcpng8.1"
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
Excluding mirror: updates.xcp-ng.org
 * xcp-ng-base: mirrors.xcp-ng.org
Excluding mirror: updates.xcp-ng.org
 * xcp-ng-updates: mirrors.xcp-ng.org
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package kernel.x86_64 0:4.19.19-6.0.10.1.xcpng8.1 will be a downgrade
---> Package kernel.x86_64 0:4.19.19-6.0.12.1.xcpng8.1 will be erased
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Trying to remove "kernel", which is protected
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                                    • DanpD Offline
                                      Danp Pro Support Team
                                      last edited by

                                      @delaf I ran into the same thing recently. See solution below --

                                      https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/33291

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                                      • delafD Offline
                                        delaf @stormi
                                        last edited by

                                        @stormi I have a server with only search extra built-in weak-updates override updates. We will see if it is better.

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                                        • delafD Offline
                                          delaf @Danp
                                          last edited by

                                          @danp Thank you. I have downgraded one server.

                                          @stormi So i have :

                                          • one server with 4.19.19-6.0.10.1.xcpng8.1
                                          • one server with kmemleak kernel
                                          • one server with search extra built-in weak-updates override updates
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                                          • delafD Offline
                                            delaf @delaf
                                            last edited by

                                            @stormi @r1
                                            Four days later, I get:

                                            • one server (266) with alt-kernel: still no problem
                                            • one server (268) with 4.19.19-6.0.10.1.xcpng8.1: no more problem!
                                            • one server (272) with kmemleak kernel: no memleak detected, but the problem is present
                                            • one server (273) with search extra built-in weak-updates override updates: problem still present
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