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    XO rebooted, remotes lost, unable to add back

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      justjosh @olivierlambert
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      @olivierlambert Will the fresh install play nice with the incremental backups from the old XO?

      Is there a reason why SSHFS isn't recommended? Or is there another more secure way to mount a remote than NFS?

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        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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        What do you mean by "old XO"? How old is your XO?

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          justjosh @olivierlambert
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          Old XO as in version that is "broken". In any case the xo-server version is 5.52.1

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            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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            We usually talk in commit number now. Also check the big yellow warning here: https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/community.html#report-a-bug

            You should at least install a fresh one on the side, import the config and check the behavior. It's dangerous to keep an old XO version.

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              justjosh @olivierlambert
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              @olivierlambert I spun up a fresh install on XO with the latest commit in master, imported the config from the old XO and now the GUI is stuck in a perpetual reload of "still loading". No error printed in the console.

              Edit: Found the issue in the journal, it was trying to auth with the old credentials that was no longer valid with imported config. Might want to consider forcing a relogin after config import

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                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                Ah yes, it's something that could happen, in that case, using the browser private mode or removing your cookie helps 🙂

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                  justjosh @olivierlambert
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                  Yup. I managed to clear out the session. So the next step would be to disable the backups on the old XO and enable it on the new XO and observe one backup cycle for any issues?

                  Btw, is there any way to use the same backup job to backup to two different remotes with different retention count (3/5 days for remote 1/2)? Right now it's on two separate jobs but wondering if there's any new methods since I set it up many years ago.

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                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                    1. You can indeed "resume" the jobs, but remember it will use the "previous" backup format (which is fine).
                    2. Yes, you can have multi remote and multi schedule jobs now.
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                      justjosh @olivierlambert
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                      Where can I find more information about multi schedule? I see the option to add multiple remotes per backup job but under schedule settings the backup retention option seems to apply to the entire backup job or all remotes selected.

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                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                        last edited by olivierlambert

                        Just create another schedule 🙂 There's a "+" button in the schedule card.

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                          justjosh @olivierlambert
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                          But the second schedule still applies to both remotes. I'm trying to have one remote with 3 days retention and the other with 5 but using the same snapshot instance.

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                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                            So what you need is more something like backup tiering (or secondary backup). This feature is currently a work in progress by @florent 🙂

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