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    Using tags or custom fields for VM placement

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    • olivierlambertO Offline
      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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      The most straightforward path is to add an affinity mode in our existing load balancer plugin, with a "map" between tags and hosts. This way, the LB will enforce placement of VMs while they run.

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        CJ @olivierlambert
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        @olivierlambert Was this ever added to the roadmap?

        I recently had a power failure which took down my entire setup. Upon starting the pool master, I was unable to connect to XO because it had been running on another host. If I had an affinity tag I could set XO to prefer to run on the master.

        This way I could more easily check the status of each thing as I brought it back online. Instead, I had to boot the entire pool because the master thought that XO was still running on the other host.

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        • olivierlambertO Offline
          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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          I'm in a train, almost 3h late and it's the end of the week, so my brain is a bit slow. I'm not sure to understand how XO LB could have help in that context? Remember that VM placement on boot is handled by XAPI, not XO.

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            CJ @olivierlambert
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            @olivierlambert No worries. I really was just asking about the status of affinity tags. 🙂

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            • olivierlambertO Offline
              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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              So placement on boot falls under XAPI realm: where to start a VM (eg you have affinity host). But when the VM is up, XAPI won't do anything else, and it's up to the XO LB plugin. If your problem is on boot, then use affinity host setting in XAPI (you can configure it from XO UI). If it's after boot, then we can discuss how to deal with it in XO LB 🙂

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                CJ @olivierlambert
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                @olivierlambert The LB plugin is what I'm referring to. I'd like to keep XO on the master but currently there's no way to do that. As you mentioned, if I set boot affinity there's nothing preventing it from getting load balanced to another host.

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                • olivierlambertO Offline
                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                  Okay so to have the LB taking into account the XAPI host affinity if possible, right?

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                    CJ @olivierlambert
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                    @olivierlambert I was thinking of tags like the anti-affinity ones but the XAPI host affinity would work as well. I'm not sure if it would work for the OP's use case, though.

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                      graham_p
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                      For my original use case, "affinity" isn't quite strong enough. This VM "X" MUST run on a host with tag "Y". If no resource is available on a host with tag Y, don't start X.

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                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                        So it's better to NOT have the VM running than running on another host, right?

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                          graham_p @olivierlambert
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                          @olivierlambert in my original case - yes.

                          For example, if the VM needs PCI passthrough to a specific device (or very fast network or fast CPU in one or two servers in the larger pool) it is absolutely better not to start the VM, because the VM is useless without this resource.

                          (Like a hard affinity to a tag - not a single host - which takes priority over general softer affinity settings).

                          (I do realise that this is complex and a big ask!)

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                          • olivierlambertO Offline
                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                            It's already the case: you won't be able to boot a VM on another host with hard requirements (like local SR or PCI passthrough). It will simply not boot.

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                              graham_p @olivierlambert
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                              @olivierlambert Well we haven't actually got round to using PCI passthrough yet - but even forgetting that for the moment - say I have two servers in a larger pool with mega fast network and fast CPU. How can I guarantee that my special VM always runs on one of these servers? At the moment I believe that I can prefer that they run on one of them but cannot guarantee it.

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                              • olivierlambertO Offline
                                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                The easiest way to guarantee it is to depend on a local resource (local SR or ISO).

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