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    Short VM freeze when migrating to another host

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    • nikadeN Offline
      nikade Top contributor @arc1
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      @arc1 said in Short VM freeze when migrating to another host:

      @nikade Yes, the MV is frozen without cpu activity.

      So the VM is actually frozen in the console?
      Because if it wasn't I'd suggest adjusting the mac-aging in your switches, since the VM's mac adress will be bound to the physical hosts switch-port for a period of time after migrating.

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      • andrewperryA Offline
        andrewperry
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        We're seeing this issue when trying to migrate a Debian VM with 16GB of RAM.

        It is a worker node in a Kubernetes cluster so it is likely that the RAM changes a fair bit. It is not uncommon for the migration to fail due to the freeze hitting a 30 second time limit.

        A Windows 10 Pro VM with 16GB of RAM migrates fine, because not much is changing in the RAM I expect.

        Following along for recommendations! Our hosts sound very similar to @arc1 except our network speed is slower, which is one thing we are working on.

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        • nikadeN Offline
          nikade Top contributor
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          And you guys aren't using any kind of dynamic memory?
          Can you post a screen dump of the Advanced tab where it shows the memory configuration?

          We have VM's with 128Gb ram that migrates just fine, when migrating it between hosts the network shows peaks at 7,6Gbit/s and it is migrated in about ~20 seconds.
          Smaller VM's with 8, 16 or even 32Gb ram is migrated almost instantly.

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          • robytR Offline
            robyt @nikade
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            @nikade 2568c5bf-5336-4461-8f1f-60cf093f93a2-immagine.png
            in VM (linux) with a free i see 94 gb of total memory

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            • andrewperryA Offline
              andrewperry @nikade
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              @nikade thanks for the ideas of where to look!

              In my case we're testing and just have a 1Gb link between these hosts, which is what I was putting it down to.

              This particular VM is a freshly migrated PV from Debian Xen with:

              Memory limits (min/max)
              Static: 16 MiB/16 GiB
              Dynamic: 8 GiB/16 GiB

              Could that Dynamic setting be the problem because as I recall it reduces the VM to 8 on migrate, so when doing the migrate perhaps 8 isn't enough for the VM?

              I will try changing it to 16/16 and see if that has any noticeable impact. Thanks!

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              • olivierlambertO Offline
                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                last edited by

                Yes that's very likely.

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                • nikadeN Offline
                  nikade Top contributor @andrewperry
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                  @andrewperry yeah try set it 16/16Gb instead, it will probably do some magic 🙂

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                  • robytR Offline
                    robyt @olivierlambert
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                    @olivierlambert hi, today i've upgraded my host..
                    The big VM frozen for ~7 minutes, is a big vm (96 gbram and 32 cpu) but 7 minutes is a very long time (for customer!)
                    i've setting 96/06 in dynamic: is a normal time?

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                    • olivierlambertO Offline
                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                      Can you provide more details? 96/96 in dynamic? Just doing live migration or suspending the VM?

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                      • robytR Offline
                        robyt @olivierlambert
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                        @olivierlambert live migration, the vm is very important (today, in christmas holyday, i've received some phone calls for 7 minutes of freeze..)
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                        • olivierlambertO Offline
                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                          last edited by olivierlambert

                          The topology looks insane 🤔 Also, a live migration shouldn't make the VM inaccessible for more than few seconds, except if there is a LOT of memory pages changes, at a pace that is close to the transfer speed.

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                          • robytR Offline
                            robyt @olivierlambert
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                            @olivierlambert ops.. why the best topology?

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                            • olivierlambertO Offline
                              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                              IIRC, just remove it (small cross) so it should use something default

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