Hi everyone,

I just installed this 8.2.1 a Dell R630 and the installer was very smooth.
We chose to make a new installation since the host was running XS 7.2 and we wanted a fresh install, with that came the opportunity to leverage EXT and thin provisioning which seems to work just as it should.

We're also mounting a NFS SR for VM disks which works fine as well. I'll have to wait and see, but hopefully the problem with /var/log/snmpd.log is resolved now and no more alerts regarding disk usage

We're using Veeam for our VMware platform and XOA for our XCP platform and I have to say I prefer XOA. Why may one ask?
Well it is dead simple, its not bloated, you have a ton of options when it comes to configuration, destination, scheduling and so on.

Veeam on the other hand is A LOT faster, we're using a 10G link to our backup site and we're seeing speeds over 7Gbit/s when backing up our VMware platform and I know this is something Vates is working hard on improving in XOA.
Veeam also has application aware backups which is a big deal when you're running MSSQL inside your VM's - I dont think there is any plans from Vates in supporting this and this might be a big deal for customers comming from the VMware and Veeam-side.

According to Microsoft you need to use their built in backup feature or a software that supports AD and VSS which will tell the VM OS that it is going to be backed up.
Unless you do this there might be corruption of the AD Databases according to Microsoft.

ALL THO we've been backing up our AD servers with XOA snapshots (Both normal backup and incremental) and had only 1 issue since we started using XOA in 2016.
Since that issue we also use a guest agent (From Ahsay CBS) that makes a Windows System State backup and Windows System Backup.

More info about that can be found here:

https://wiki.ahsay.com/doku.php?id=public:version_9:client:9447_system_state_backup_vs_system_backup

A great opportunity for anyone who is into xcp, xoa and opensource software to join a great company

@olivierlambert said in XCP-ng 8.2.1 (maintenance update) - ready for testing:

Thanks a lot @nikade for your feedback! (also I love your avatar!)

Yeah, I gotta have my suit on my tux

I wanted to inform that I've tried iSCSI with multipathing as well and it works fine.
So far everything we need in our general production-environment seems to be working as it should.

@blackliner said in Sdn controller and physical network:

@nikade How do you "pair" the XCP-ng SDN with your routing setup?

You cant/dont, you'll have to setup each private network on the vyos router and then have the vm private network routed through it manually.

For example if you have private network 1 with subnet 192.168.1.0/24 you'd have to add this network to the vyos router and assign 192.168.1.1/24 on the router.
Then set 192.168.1.1 as default gateway in your vm's which uses this network.

Then you'll setup ospf or bgp on the vyos router manually with your upstream border/core-router or firewall. If the subnet is a private subnet you'll need to setup NAT as well somewhere before it reaches internet to NAT traffic from 192.168.1.0/24.

@Greg_E said in What should i expect from VM migration performance from Xen-ng ?:

@nikade

I've spent a bunch of time trying to find some dark magic to making the VDI migration faster, so far nothing. My VM (memory) migration is fast enough that I'm not concerned right now. and don't have any testing to show for it.

Currently migrating the test VDI from storage1 to storage2 (again) and getting an average of 400/400mbps (lower case m and b). If I do three VDI at once, I can get over a gigbit and sometimes close to 2 gigabit.

It's either SMAPIv1 or it is a file "block" size issue, bigger blocks can get me benchmarks up to 600MBps to almost 700MBps (capital M and B) on my slow storage over a 10gbps network. Testing this with XCP-NG 8.3 release to see if anything changed from the Beta, so far all is the same. Also all testing done with thin provisioned file shares (SMB and NFS). If I could get half my maximum tests for the VDI migration, I'd be happy. In fact I'm extremely pleased that my storage can go as fast as it is showing, it's all old stuff on SATA.

I have a whole thread on this testing if you want to read more.

You can see the migrate which was 400/400 and then the benchmark across the ethernet interface of my Truenas, this example was migrate from SMB to NFS, and benchmark on the NFS. Settings for that NFS are in the thread mentioned and certainly my fastest non-real world performance to date.

That's impressive!
We're not seeing as high speeds are you are, we have 3 different storages, mostly doing NFS tho. We're still running 8.2.0 but I dont really think it matters as the issue is most likely tied to the SMAPIv1.

We also noted that it goes a bit faster when doing 3-4 VDI's in parallell, but the individual speed per migration is about the same.

@planedrop said in XO - Restore Health Check:

I can confirm this is the case for me too, not a huge deal, but would be kinda nice if it could keep track of the name.

Thanks for verifying, it is probably an easy fix for the vates ppl

Hi everyone,

Has anyone else tried the Restore Health Check-feature in XO to test their backups?
I've used it now in my lab a couple of times and it works great, but one thing that bugs me out is that the name of the tested VM is no longer dispalyed after the TEST is finished because it was removed:

Instead of listing the name of the VM it just says "VM not found!"

We're using XO from sources:

Xen Orchestra, commit 8b7e1
Master, commit 587da

@Dataslak said in After installing updates: 0 bytes free, Control domain memory = 0B:

@nikade @olivierlambert @stormi @Danp @yann

Just wanted to say to you all:

Thank you for your contributions and kind helpful assistance which has helped me through this crisis.

I would have been in deep trouble without you. I respect your expertise, and appreciate deeply that you are working so hard to help us dumb users. I have learned a lot, and hope one day to become skilled enough to at least help other new users on this forum.

Best wishes
Aslak

Happy everything worked out, this is what this community is all about.
I've gotten a lot of help and given some too, it's all about helping out with the things that you can.
With time you'll be able to help out more and more and more

@Pilow well you seem to have a nice setup, I am looking forward to more pictures!
I wish I could share ours, but im not allowed to

@olivierlambert said in Racked today, entire hosting solution based on Vates stack:

Obviously, you need some fun otherwise it would be boring

Haha yeah "fun"

@Pilow Cool, you have now taught me something new, again
I find it very interesting that there is hosting business on these islands, I kind of expected everyone to use the cloud since it would be expensive to establish a datacenter precense on those islands.

Prices do seem expensive, im in Sweden and we have a lot of fiber and ip-transits here.
We pay about €300 per month for 10G CWDM between our datacenters, €550 for redundant (2 paths). Distance is about 10-20km.

IP-transit depends on the provider, we have 3 different ones, and we have different "deals" from each one of them. We mostly do 1G with 100-200Mbit/s but from our main provider which is 10G with a 1G traffic commit we pay about €375 per month. This price is mainly because I know one of the guys who works there + we're a big customer of theirs.

For comparison we pay about €300 for the other 1G with 100Mbit traffic commit...

@Pilow That's a very nice setup, cool to see some real enterprise hardware for once in this thread
Also, thanks for informing me about Reunion Island, never heard of the place before and had to look it up on google. How many datacenters can you choose from on this island? Whats the connectivity like, is it very expensive with fiber and ip-transit?

@acebmxer said in Veeam backup with XCP NG:

and when not accidentally routing the backups... save 6 min..

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Amazing, that's really impressive. Backups has always taken a long time with XOA once you start to backup a lot of VM's so I hope this will improve the overall backup performance

@tjkreidl I think the issue is that he's got no 10G switch, hence the direct connection
But you live and you learn, best would be to pick up a cheap 10G switch and make it right!

@utopianfish I see, that explains a lot.

@acebmxer said in 10gb backup only managing about 80Mb:

I could be wrong but from VMware world the management interface didnt transfer much data if at all. It was only used to communicate to vsphere and/or to the to the host. So no need to waste a 10gb port on something only only see kb worth of data.

Our previous server had 2x 1gb nics for management 1x 10gb nic for network 2x 10tgb nic for storage 1x 10gb nic for vmotion.

Tbh I do the same on our vmware hosts, 2x10G or 2x25G and then the management as a vlan interface on that vSwitch, aswell as the VLAN's used for storage, VM traffic and so on.

I find it much easier to keep the racks clean if we only have 2 connections from each hosts, rather than 4, since it kind of adds up really fast and makes the rack impossible to keep nice and clean when you have 15-20 machines in it + storage + switches + firewalls and all the inter-connections with other racks, ip-transit and so on.

Edit:
Except for vSAN hosts where the vSAN traffic needs atleast 1 dedicated interface, but those are the only exception.

@utopianfish said in 10gb backup only managing about 80Mb:

@nikade i think the problem is its using the mgmt interface to do the backup..its not touching the 10GB nics.. when i set it under Pools/Adanced/Backup to use the 10gb nic as default the job fails... setting it back to none the job is successful with a speed of 80 MiB/s.. so using the 1GB mgmt nic... how do i get the backups to use the dedicated 10gb link then. ?

May I ask why your management interface is not on the 10G nic? There is absolutely no downside to having that kind of setup.

We used this setup for 7 years on our Dell R630's without any issues at all. We had 2x10G NIC in our hosts and then put the management interface on top of the bond0 as a native vlan.
Then we just added our VLAN's on top on the bond0 and voila, all your interfaces benefits from the 10G nic's.

@olivierlambert said in 10gb backup only managing about 80Mb:

I would have ask the same question

Great minds and all that, you know

@utopianfish check if you have any kind of power options regarding "power saving" or "performance" modes you can change in the BIOS. That could make a big difference as well.