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    [HELP] XCP-ng 4.17.5 dom0 kernel panic — page fault in TCP stack, crashdump attached

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      dnikola @dnikola
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      @olivierlambert please let me know one or two model of nic card, a, i will purchase them over ebay because local seller would not be able to deliver them, nd have them just in case for future debugging process.

      for last X years, till 8.3 we could put xcp on any damn hardware and never had any problem ... This is our experiance.

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        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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        As I said, you were lucky: it's a question of "not crashing" consumer grade hardware between a driver version and a firmware version (even on server-grade hardware it could happen, but it's simply less likely.

        That's why I would advise to update first all the firmware first. The next step is to play with a alternative kernel driver for the NIC (if there's one), you could even start there if you like.

        At least, you know how to trigger it (maybe a simple iperf would be enough) so you can test various drivers and/or firmware versions.

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          TeddyAstie Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team Xen Guru
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          cc @andrew

          It looks like an issue with https://github.com/xcp-ng-rpms/r8125-module, though I am not completely sure what is going on, and why the pagetable suddently gets invalid.

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            Andrew Top contributor @TeddyAstie
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            @TeddyAstie It could be! The crash does look like a r8125 driver issue.

            It's older Realtek code that has been working well on XCP systems. The newer current Realtek released code has new issues, so there's no quick direct update... I have not seen the current r8125 XCP driver cause crashes.

            I would point my finger back at this specific system and some odd condition that the driver does not handle correctly.

            As this is vendor code, there is no upstream Linux testing.... so, no non-XCP problem reports.

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              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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              Yeah I would avoid those shitty cards as possible. Is there any more recent driver anyway?

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                Andrew Top contributor @olivierlambert
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                @olivierlambert There are new versions of the r812x drivers. They don't compile cleanly for XCP. The r8127 driver was withdrawn and the r8125/r8126 was split into two different drivers. Realtek never publishes release notes.

                I'll have to test the new driver and see if it's worth trying. I don't know if and update would solve this panic issue as there are lots of undocumented code changes.

                The forum has been quiet about new r8125 issues, so in general the current driver has been working well enough. Just two issues I remember, including this one.

                Realtek has also released new hardware revisions of the r812x chips that need new driver support and are only recently supported by their vendor driver and in upstream Linux 6.15 (not even 6.12 LTS yet).

                As for the r8127, it looks like it could be a desktop game changer as it's a small cheap low power 10G chip. But like the others, its release is delayed and it does not have driver support yet (or test samples).

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                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                  That would be interesting if a we have a test driver solving this very issue here, but I wouldn't expect too much either 😕 Those drivers are as bad as the chips 😢

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                    Andrew Top contributor @dnikola
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                    @dnikola Please make sure your motherboard firmware is up to date (BIOS F30e). There are a LOT of stability issues with Intel CPUs for that board and old BIOS.

                    If you still have r8125 crashes, then try a newer r8125 alt version (9.016.00) from my download page and see if it works better. I gave it a quick test and it installs and works, but YMMV... You can always uninstall it.

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                      Andrew Top contributor @dnikola
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                      @dnikola As for the other card you listed, no, it's still a 8125 card. The single port 10G card (from the same site) is a AQC113 chipset, you'll need to install the atlantic-module-alt to support it. If you must have 2.5G then the Intel i225/i226 card is the other choice (not from that site).

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                        dnikola @Andrew
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                        Hi, thanks for your kind replay.

                        Let me share what i have noticed
                        3 servers with same hardware, same XCP-ng last version, same MBO bios..
                        1 server different Hardware, same XCP-ng last version

                        Server C
                        not so frequent crashes but yes it happens from time to time around 10 days, and toolstack restarts few times in that 10 days

                        5 VM: server 2022 x3, server 2019, win 10 pro
                        delta backup disabled but connected to XO

                        Server D
                        2 VM: server 2019, server 2022
                        delta backup enabled, everything running fine from first day, not any single problem restart or toolstack crash

                        Server K
                        5 VM: server 2019, server 2022, win 10 pro, win 7, linux
                        make the most problems, it works for 10 days than restarts 10 times in 2 days... it was triggered after delta backups, so I have disabled delta backups and disabled sending metrics from server

                        Server P
                        5 VM: server 2019, server 2022 x 2, win 10 pro, win 7
                        not so frequent crashes but yes it happens from time to time around 10 days, and toolstack restarts few times in that 10 days
                        delta backup enabled, works fine, but few time restarts occurred in that time

                        From reviewing dom0.log from server K as most affected one we have noticed:

                        Multiple segfaults in xcp-rrdd throughout runtime:

                        INFO: xcp-rrdd[xxx]: segfault at ...
                        

                        The RRD polling is active and seems unstable on this host.

                        Frequent link down/up events from the r8125 driver:

                        INFO: r8125: eth0: link down
                        INFO: r8125: eth0: link up
                        

                        (known issue on Xen hypervisors with Realtek drivers)

                        And eventually, identical kernel panics as before:

                        CRIT: kernel BUG at drivers/xen/events/events_base.c:1601!
                        Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt
                        Always same stack trace, same event channel handling failure.
                        

                        📌 Actions planned:
                        BIOS update on-site (currently on v1663 / Aug 2024 — latest is 1854)
                        Evaluate replacing the Realtek NIC with an Intel one
                        Problem is that the server is at a remote location, and we’re organizing an on-site intervention ASAP.

                        📌 In the meantime:
                        Can I safely disable xcp-rrdd service to reduce polling activity?
                        I know it powers the RRD stats in XO and XenCenter, but we can live without the graphs for now.

                        Is there anything else advisable to disable / adjust until we get on-site?
                        (delta backups are already paused on this)

                        The VM involved during the latest crash was a FreePBX virtual machine running management agent version 8.4.
                        Is there a newer agent package available for CentOS/AlmaLinux 8/9 guests I should apply?

                        📌 Question:

                        • Would disabling xcp-rrdd mitigate dom0 instability short-term?
                        • Is there any way to tune RRD polling frequency instead of disabling entirely?
                        • Anything else to collect before the next crash (besides xen-bugtool -y) you’d recommend?

                        I also noticed that my FreePBX VM (UUID: 6c725208-c266-a106-da10-50e9ec66b41e) repeatedly triggers an event processing loop via xenopsd-xc and xapi, visible both in dom0.log and xapi.log.

                        Example from logs:

                        Received an event on managed VM 6c725208-c266-a106-da10-50e9ec66b41e
                        Queue.push ["VM_check_state","6c725208-c266-a106-da10-50e9ec66b41e"]
                        Queue.pop returned ["VM_check_state","6c725208-c266-a106-da10-50e9ec66b41e"]
                        VM 6c725208-c266-a106-da10-50e9ec66b41e is not requesting any attention
                        

                        This repeats every minute, without an actual task being created (confirmed via xe task-list showing no pending tasks).

                        Notably:

                        • This behavior persists even after disabling RRD polling and delta backups
                        • The VM shows an orange activity indicator in XCP-ng Admin Center, as if a task is ongoing
                        • Previously this has caused a dom0 crash and reboot
                        • Given the log pattern and event storm, it seems likely that either:
                        • A stale or looping event is being triggered by the guest agent or hypervisor integration
                        • Or xenopsd/xapi state machine isn't properly clearing or marking the VM state after these checks

                        I'd appreciate advice on:

                        • How to safely clear/reset the VM state without restarting dom0
                        • Whether updating the management agent inside the FreePBX guest (currently xcp-ng-agent 8.4) to a newer version might resolve this
                          (If a newer one is available for RHEL7/FreePBX)

                        Part of log in time of this happening

                        Thanks in advance — we’re pushing for the hardware fixes but would appreciate advice for short-term stability in the meantime.

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                          dnikola @olivierlambert
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                          @Andrew said in [HELP] XCP-ng 4.17.5 dom0 kernel panic — page fault in TCP stack, crashdump attached:

                          @dnikola Please make sure your motherboard firmware is up to date (BIOS F30e). There are a LOT of stability issues with Intel CPUs for that board and old BIOS.

                          If you still have r8125 crashes, then try a newer r8125 alt version (9.016.00) from my download page and see if it works better. I gave it a quick test and it installs and works, but YMMV... You can always uninstall it.

                          Ok, that will be done and I will report!
                          is it possible to have some quick user guide what has to be done, in which order to process with correct install - uninstall process

                          @Andrew said in [HELP] XCP-ng 4.17.5 dom0 kernel panic — page fault in TCP stack, crashdump attached:

                          @dnikola As for the other card you listed, no, it's still a 8125 card. The single port 10G card (from the same site) is a AQC113 chipset, you'll need to install the atlantic-module-alt to support it. If you must have 2.5G then the Intel i225/i226 card is the other choice (not from that site).

                          I appreciate all your help so far — thank you. I noticed that the only 2.5G NIC currently available locally is the one with 8125, so it was "first aid", but didn't work . Since I’ll likely need to order a replacement online (not possible to find it in our country without purchase), could you kindly recommend a reliable source or a specific NIC model (our ISP is 2,5gbps so i prefer 2,5+ card) you’d personally suggest for this purpose (eBay or what every)?

                          Of course, this would be just an informal recommendation — I fully respect your experience and advice, and I completely understand it wouldn’t imply any obligation or responsibility on your part for any potential purchase issues or problems later.

                          my second option is MBO replacement with intel NIC (local wholesale have few models on stock) and it will be maybe fastest option

                          • ASUS PRIME Z790-A WIFI
                          • MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI
                          • GIGABYTE Z790 AERO G rev. 1.x
                          • MSI Z790 GAMING PLUS WIFI

                          Thanks again in advance — any tip would be much appreciated.

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                            Andrew Top contributor @dnikola
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                            @dnikola The AQC113 10G card (from your vendor) also support 2.5G with the driver loaded.

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