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    Just FYI: current update seams to break NUT dependancies

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    • J Offline
      JeffBerntsen Top contributor @rzr
      last edited by

      @rzr @stormi @olivierlambert Please consider this such a request. NUT's functionality at the small system/appliance level (i.e. not datacenter) of use is too useful to ignore but not enough to build a dedicated VM for on systems/appliances with limited resources.

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        okynnor @JeffBerntsen
        last edited by

        I second this request.

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        • D Offline
          DustinB @okynnor
          last edited by

          https://xcp-ng.org/forum/topic/11967/gracefull-shutdown-of-host-when-ups-battery-runs-low

          Not a great response, if this is really a need paying customers should go and put a request in on the ticketing side.

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          • F Offline
            fbellosoa
            last edited by

            In case my experience can help with this problem:

            The package causing compatibility issues is nut, but nut-client works and allows the xcp-ng hosts update.

            I installed nut-client and defined the pool hosts as clients, with my nut server on a Truenas server.

            This installation is working and has allowed me to continue using nut on my hosts.

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            • rzrR Offline
              rzr Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
              last edited by rzr

              Hi, I had a look at it and may have something to be tested soon (TBC https://github.com/xcp-ng-rpms/nut/pull/1 )

              Is any of you volunteering for testing an extra (unsupported?) package ?
              Or if the client is enough maybe we can put this on hold unless there is more traction?

              Reminder: https://docs.xcp-ng.org/management/additional-packages/

              rzr opened this pull request in xcp-ng-rpms/nut

              closed Import nut-2.8.0 Rebuild with updated OpenSSL 3 #1

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              • F Offline
                FritzGerald @rzr
                last edited by

                @rzr Hi. Thank you very much. I will be setting up a new server within the next 2 weeks and will definitely test it. Then I will give you feedback! Thank you again for picking it up!

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                  FritzGerald
                  last edited by FritzGerald

                  Hello, sorry for not getting back earlier. I had some "other" unexpected trouble-shooting project.

                  Since I have never installed this type of "dev" package, I just wanted to let others know how to install (please to so on a testing server). Besides that, just run:

                  yum install nut --enablerepo=xcp-ng-ci
                  

                  That's it. At least installation on my newly setup and completely patched test "XCP-ng 8.3" server worked like a charme:

                  [22:41 xcp-test ~]# yum install nut --enablerepo=xcp-ng-ci
                  Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
                  Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
                  Excluding mirror: updates.xcp-ng.org
                   * xcp-ng-base: mirrors.xcp-ng.org
                  Excluding mirror: updates.xcp-ng.org
                   * xcp-ng-ci: mirrors.xcp-ng.org
                  Excluding mirror: updates.xcp-ng.org
                   * xcp-ng-updates: mirrors.xcp-ng.org
                  xcp-ng-base/signature                                                                                                                                                                        |  473 B  00:00:00
                  xcp-ng-base/signature                                                                                                                                                                        | 3.0 kB  00:00:00 !!!
                  xcp-ng-ci/signature                                                                                                                                                                          |  473 B  00:00:00
                  xcp-ng-ci/signature                                                                                                                                                                          | 3.0 kB  00:00:00 !!!
                  xcp-ng-updates/signature                                                                                                                                                                     |  473 B  00:00:00
                  xcp-ng-updates/signature                                                                                                                                                                     | 3.0 kB  00:00:00 !!!
                  xcp-ng-ci/primary_db                                                                                                                                                                         | 168 kB  00:00:00
                  Resolving Dependencies
                  --> Running transaction check
                  ---> Package nut.x86_64 0:2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3 will be installed
                  --> Processing Dependency: libfreeipmi.so.17()(64bit) for package: nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64
                  --> Processing Dependency: libipmimonitoring.so.6()(64bit) for package: nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64
                  --> Processing Dependency: libltdl.so.7()(64bit) for package: nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64
                  --> Processing Dependency: libupsclient.so.6()(64bit) for package: nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64
                  --> Processing Dependency: libusb-0.1.so.4()(64bit) for package: nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64
                  --> Running transaction check
                  ---> Package freeipmi.x86_64 0:1.5.7-2.el7 will be installed
                  ---> Package libtool-ltdl.x86_64 0:2.4.2-22.el7_3 will be installed
                  ---> Package libusb.x86_64 1:0.1.4-3.el7 will be installed
                  ---> Package nut-client.x86_64 0:2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3 will be installed
                  --> Finished Dependency Resolution
                  
                  Dependencies Resolved
                  
                  ====================================================================================================================================================================================================================
                   Package                                            Arch                                         Version                                                    Repository                                         Size
                  ====================================================================================================================================================================================================================
                  Installing:
                   nut                                                x86_64                                       2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3                                         xcp-ng-ci                                         2.2 M
                  Installing for dependencies:
                   freeipmi                                           x86_64                                       1.5.7-2.el7                                                xcp-ng-base                                       2.0 M
                   libtool-ltdl                                       x86_64                                       2.4.2-22.el7_3                                             xcp-ng-base                                        48 k
                   libusb                                             x86_64                                       1:0.1.4-3.el7                                              xcp-ng-base                                        19 k
                   nut-client                                         x86_64                                       2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3                                         xcp-ng-ci                                         203 k
                  
                  Transaction Summary
                  ====================================================================================================================================================================================================================
                  Install  1 Package (+4 Dependent packages)
                  
                  Total download size: 4.5 M
                  Installed size: 20 M
                  Is this ok [y/d/N]: y
                  Downloading packages:
                  (1/5): libtool-ltdl-2.4.2-22.el7_3.x86_64.rpm                                                                                                                                                |  48 kB  00:00:00
                  (2/5): freeipmi-1.5.7-2.el7.x86_64.rpm                                                                                                                                                       | 2.0 MB  00:00:01
                  (3/5): libusb-0.1.4-3.el7.x86_64.rpm                                                                                                                                                         |  19 kB  00:00:00
                  (4/5): nut-client-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64.rpm                                                                                                                                              | 203 kB  00:00:00
                  (5/5): nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64.rpm                                                                                                                                                     | 2.2 MB  00:00:01
                  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                  Total                                                                                                                                                                               1.7 MB/s | 4.5 MB  00:00:02
                  Running transaction check
                  Running transaction test
                  Transaction test succeeded
                  Running transaction
                    Installing : nut-client-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64                                                                                                                                                             1/5
                    Installing : freeipmi-1.5.7-2.el7.x86_64                                                                                                                                                                      2/5
                    Installing : libtool-ltdl-2.4.2-22.el7_3.x86_64                                                                                                                                                               3/5
                    Installing : 1:libusb-0.1.4-3.el7.x86_64                                                                                                                                                                      4/5
                    Installing : nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64                                                                                                                                                                    5/5
                    Verifying  : nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64                                                                                                                                                                    1/5
                    Verifying  : 1:libusb-0.1.4-3.el7.x86_64                                                                                                                                                                      2/5
                    Verifying  : libtool-ltdl-2.4.2-22.el7_3.x86_64                                                                                                                                                               3/5
                    Verifying  : freeipmi-1.5.7-2.el7.x86_64                                                                                                                                                                      4/5
                    Verifying  : nut-client-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64                                                                                                                                                             5/5
                  
                  Installed:
                    nut.x86_64 0:2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3
                  
                  Dependency Installed:
                    freeipmi.x86_64 0:1.5.7-2.el7                    libtool-ltdl.x86_64 0:2.4.2-22.el7_3                    libusb.x86_64 1:0.1.4-3.el7                    nut-client.x86_64 0:2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3
                  
                  Complete!
                  

                  I will let you know once I got some impressions.

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                  • F Offline
                    FritzGerald
                    last edited by

                    @rzr: Sorry, first and foremost I totally forgot to say thank you very much. I really appreciate you work and effort for this "non-core" issue.

                    That said, I can say that it works on my test machines. I could successfully install and connected to a APC Smart-UPS 750 (SMT750RMI2UC) to my test server. Not a single problem whatsoever. I will now monitor it a bit and if I observe anything I will let you know.

                    Is there maybe anything particular you are interested in for me to test?

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                    • rzrR Offline
                      rzr Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @FritzGerald
                      last edited by rzr

                      @FritzGerald said:

                      @rzr: Sorry, first and foremost I totally forgot to say thank you very much. I really appreciate you work and effort for this "non-core" issue.

                      You're welcome !

                      ⚠ Keep in mind using/enabling ci repo can be dangerous but for this nut update the risk is low.

                      Is there maybe anything particular you are interested in for me to test?

                      Nothing specific, the regular use case but feel free to share to community your experience with your hardware:

                      https://networkupstools.org/ddl/APC/Smart-UPS_750.html

                      Then others can compare with other devices supported by N.U.T. :

                      https://networkupstools.org/ddl/

                      This makes me think, I have scavenged an APC BE400 but it looks like an offline device, unsure I will make anything useful soon.

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                        FritzGerald
                        last edited by FritzGerald

                        Good point.

                        Quick install procedure for anyone interested. I use a USB connected APC Smart-UPS 750 (SMT750RMI2U) on a completely patched test "XCP-ng 8.3" server. To install ci pacakges run:

                        yum install nut --enablerepo=xcp-ng-ci
                        

                        Most important, check your USV device is properly connected and found using

                        lsusb
                        

                        it should show something like:

                        ...
                        Bus 002 Device 002: ID 051d:0003 American Power Conversion UPS
                        ...
                        

                        Grap details then by:

                        lsusb -s 002:002 -v
                        

                        which should give you something like

                        [12:53 xcp-test ~]# lsusb -s 002:002 -v
                        
                        Bus 002 Device 002: ID 051d:0003 American Power Conversion UPS
                        Device Descriptor:
                          bLength                18
                          bDescriptorType         1
                          bcdUSB               2.00
                          bDeviceClass            0 (Defined at Interface level)
                          bDeviceSubClass         0
                          bDeviceProtocol         0
                          bMaxPacketSize0        64
                          idVendor           0x051d American Power Conversion
                          idProduct          0x0003 UPS
                          bcdDevice            1.06
                          iManufacturer           1 American Power Conversion
                          iProduct                2 Smart-UPS 750 FW:UPS 15.1 / ID=18
                          iSerial                 3 SERIALXXXXXXXX
                          bNumConfigurations      1
                        ...
                          Remote Wakeup Enabled
                        

                        Based upon this data you can add this information to your ups.conf

                        nano /etc/ups/ups.conf
                        
                        [apc]
                                driver = "usbhid-ups"
                                port = "auto"
                                vendorid = "051D"
                                productid = "0003"
                                product = "Smart-UPS 750 FW:UPS 15.1 / ID=18"
                                serial = "SERIALXXXXXXXX"
                                vendor = "American Power Conversion"
                                bus = "002"
                        

                        Now add users in nano /etc/ups/upsd.users. "upsmon" is for the slave connected devices.

                        [admin]
                              password = PWXXXXXX
                              actions = SET FSD
                              instcmds = ALL
                              upsmon master
                        
                        [upsmon]
                              password = SLAVEPW
                              upsmon slave
                        

                        Now add/enable via nano /etc/ups/upsd.conf the required lines. If you want other servers to listen, you need to listen to an non-localhost IP if course.

                        LISTEN 127.0.0.1 3493
                        

                        Now enable in nano /etc/ups/upsmon.conf the relevant line:

                        MONITOR apc@localhost 1 admin PWXXXXXX master
                        

                        Now restart services:

                        upsdrvctl start
                        systemctl start nut-server.service
                        systemctl start nut-monitor.service
                        

                        and you should be able to see the apc data by calling:

                        upsc apc@localhost
                        

                        It should show:

                        battery.charge: 100
                        battery.charge.low: 10
                        battery.charge.warning: 50
                        battery.runtime: 3900
                        battery.runtime.low: 120
                        battery.type: PbAc
                        battery.voltage: 27.3
                        battery.voltage.nominal: 24.0
                        device.mfr: American Power Conversion
                        device.model: Smart-UPS 750
                        device.serial: SERIALXXXXX
                        device.type: ups
                        driver.name: usbhid-ups
                        driver.parameter.bus: 002
                        driver.parameter.pollfreq: 30
                        driver.parameter.pollinterval: 2
                        driver.parameter.port: auto
                        driver.parameter.product: Smart-UPS 750 FW:UPS 15.1 / ID=18
                        driver.parameter.productid: 0003
                        driver.parameter.serial: SERIALXXXXX
                        driver.parameter.synchronous: auto
                        driver.parameter.vendor: American Power Conversion
                        driver.parameter.vendorid: 051D
                        driver.version: 2.8.0
                        driver.version.data: APC HID 0.98
                        driver.version.internal: 0.47
                        driver.version.usb: libusb-0.1 (or compat)
                        ups.beeper.status: enabled
                        ups.delay.shutdown: 20
                        ups.firmware: UPS 15.1 / ID=18
                        ups.mfr: American Power Conversion
                        ups.mfr.date: 2015/08/14
                        ups.model: Smart-UPS 750
                        ups.productid: 0003
                        ups.serial: SERIALXXXXX
                        ups.status: OL
                        ups.timer.reboot: -1
                        ups.timer.shutdown: -1
                        ups.vendorid: 051d
                        

                        HINT: I experience that the bus id of the usb device sometimes changes after reboot. Watch out if you restart the server and adapt your ups.conf accordingly!!!

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                          FritzGerald @rzr
                          last edited by

                          @rzr Just for curiosity.

                          As far as I understand you assess the risk as low for the nut package - and only for that - to use ci-repo. I am fine with that for my personal servers. In terms of staying as close to the stable version in order to avoid potential future upgrade issues, is there a chance to say something about:

                          • Would you consider to integrate this into "stable" branch?
                          • What would be the next steps on our side to support this?
                          • How long would does that roughly take?

                          Thank again!

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                            rzr Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @FritzGerald
                            last edited by

                            @FritzGerald said:

                            @rzr Just for curiosity.

                            As far as I understand you assess the risk as low for the nut package - and only for that - to use ci-repo. I am fine with that for my personal servers.

                            • Would you consider to integrate this into "stable" branch?

                            yes it's the plan, we usually test packages in ci repos for a couple of weeks and once we're happy of the packages set it goes to testing repo, then users can officially test it (and based on feedback (or absence of feedback) then everything lands in update repo after a week or more (it depends on risk or hurry)..

                            • What would be the next steps on our side to support this?

                            I think nothing should be done your side you did your job before the testing window, early feedback is always appreciated (as long people know what they are doing 😉 )

                            But If I were you, just to be safe i would keep trace of packages i have installed from ci or testing repo, in case anything is not going as expected, you can still reinstall those packages from update channel.

                            • How long would does that roughly take?

                            It depends usually a couple of weeks, but this next batch might be a bit longer because there is a long waited feature planned.

                            Check the future announcement in the forum.

                            Thank again!

                            thank you for the detailed howto, if there is traction for this feature maybe it worth documenting officially, I'll ask product managers.

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                              FritzGerald @rzr
                              last edited by

                              @rzr Great. Thank you!

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