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    Just FYI: current update seams to break NUT dependancies

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      FritzGerald @rzr
      last edited by

      @rzr
      Hi, thank you for having a look.

      Regarding point 1.)
      As it was written by Olivier Lambert in post https://xcp-ng.org/forum/topic/10250/what-os-is-xcp-ng-8-3-based-on/8?_=1773671654080 I understand that your focus is on datacenter usage. Nevertheless I still think - and in other posts users mention it as well - there are quite a lot small non-datacenter - installations in place that use xcp-ng in small office structures using and needing an USV, since it simply essential. I love using XCP-NG and believe it would be a goodie that would make a lot small open source supporters like me very happy.

      Regarding point 2.)
      I am always careful when interfering with "mighty" tools like hypervisors. My experience is that my knowledge is unfortunately to small to see all caveats.

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        FritzGerald @stormi
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          FritzGerald @stormi
          last edited by

          @stormi said:

          @bogikornel said:

          @FritzGerald workaround

          yum update --exclude=net-snmp*
          

          This is dangerous.

          @stormi Do you see any immediate threat? I am asking since it is working so far for me

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            ph7
            last edited by

            You can install nut on a separate (small) machine and let it ssh to Your master and run a shutdown script.
            That's how I do it since a while back when the NUT-package was temporarily removed from the extra repo

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              DustinB @rzr
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              @rzr said:

              Yes this "extra" tool was not (never?) supported ,

              NUT has never been supported in XCP-ng, it has been asked about for a long time though and a lot of people handle XCP-ng not as an appliance but as any other Server/Desktop system and install packages because they aren't blocked from doing so

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                JeffBerntsen Top contributor @rzr
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                @rzr @stormi @olivierlambert Please consider this such a request. NUT's functionality at the small system/appliance level (i.e. not datacenter) of use is too useful to ignore but not enough to build a dedicated VM for on systems/appliances with limited resources.

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                  okynnor @JeffBerntsen
                  last edited by

                  I second this request.

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                    DustinB @okynnor
                    last edited by

                    https://xcp-ng.org/forum/topic/11967/gracefull-shutdown-of-host-when-ups-battery-runs-low

                    Not a great response, if this is really a need paying customers should go and put a request in on the ticketing side.

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                      fbellosoa
                      last edited by

                      In case my experience can help with this problem:

                      The package causing compatibility issues is nut, but nut-client works and allows the xcp-ng hosts update.

                      I installed nut-client and defined the pool hosts as clients, with my nut server on a Truenas server.

                      This installation is working and has allowed me to continue using nut on my hosts.

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                        rzr Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
                        last edited by rzr

                        Hi, I had a look at it and may have something to be tested soon (TBC https://github.com/xcp-ng-rpms/nut/pull/1 )

                        Is any of you volunteering for testing an extra (unsupported?) package ?
                        Or if the client is enough maybe we can put this on hold unless there is more traction?

                        Reminder: https://docs.xcp-ng.org/management/additional-packages/

                        rzr opened this pull request in xcp-ng-rpms/nut

                        closed Import nut-2.8.0 Rebuild with updated OpenSSL 3 #1

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                          FritzGerald @rzr
                          last edited by

                          @rzr Hi. Thank you very much. I will be setting up a new server within the next 2 weeks and will definitely test it. Then I will give you feedback! Thank you again for picking it up!

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                            FritzGerald
                            last edited by FritzGerald

                            Hello, sorry for not getting back earlier. I had some "other" unexpected trouble-shooting project.

                            Since I have never installed this type of "dev" package, I just wanted to let others know how to install (please to so on a testing server). Besides that, just run:

                            yum install nut --enablerepo=xcp-ng-ci
                            

                            That's it. At least installation on my newly setup and completely patched test "XCP-ng 8.3" server worked like a charme:

                            [22:41 xcp-test ~]# yum install nut --enablerepo=xcp-ng-ci
                            Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
                            Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
                            Excluding mirror: updates.xcp-ng.org
                             * xcp-ng-base: mirrors.xcp-ng.org
                            Excluding mirror: updates.xcp-ng.org
                             * xcp-ng-ci: mirrors.xcp-ng.org
                            Excluding mirror: updates.xcp-ng.org
                             * xcp-ng-updates: mirrors.xcp-ng.org
                            xcp-ng-base/signature                                                                                                                                                                        |  473 B  00:00:00
                            xcp-ng-base/signature                                                                                                                                                                        | 3.0 kB  00:00:00 !!!
                            xcp-ng-ci/signature                                                                                                                                                                          |  473 B  00:00:00
                            xcp-ng-ci/signature                                                                                                                                                                          | 3.0 kB  00:00:00 !!!
                            xcp-ng-updates/signature                                                                                                                                                                     |  473 B  00:00:00
                            xcp-ng-updates/signature                                                                                                                                                                     | 3.0 kB  00:00:00 !!!
                            xcp-ng-ci/primary_db                                                                                                                                                                         | 168 kB  00:00:00
                            Resolving Dependencies
                            --> Running transaction check
                            ---> Package nut.x86_64 0:2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3 will be installed
                            --> Processing Dependency: libfreeipmi.so.17()(64bit) for package: nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64
                            --> Processing Dependency: libipmimonitoring.so.6()(64bit) for package: nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64
                            --> Processing Dependency: libltdl.so.7()(64bit) for package: nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64
                            --> Processing Dependency: libupsclient.so.6()(64bit) for package: nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64
                            --> Processing Dependency: libusb-0.1.so.4()(64bit) for package: nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64
                            --> Running transaction check
                            ---> Package freeipmi.x86_64 0:1.5.7-2.el7 will be installed
                            ---> Package libtool-ltdl.x86_64 0:2.4.2-22.el7_3 will be installed
                            ---> Package libusb.x86_64 1:0.1.4-3.el7 will be installed
                            ---> Package nut-client.x86_64 0:2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3 will be installed
                            --> Finished Dependency Resolution
                            
                            Dependencies Resolved
                            
                            ====================================================================================================================================================================================================================
                             Package                                            Arch                                         Version                                                    Repository                                         Size
                            ====================================================================================================================================================================================================================
                            Installing:
                             nut                                                x86_64                                       2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3                                         xcp-ng-ci                                         2.2 M
                            Installing for dependencies:
                             freeipmi                                           x86_64                                       1.5.7-2.el7                                                xcp-ng-base                                       2.0 M
                             libtool-ltdl                                       x86_64                                       2.4.2-22.el7_3                                             xcp-ng-base                                        48 k
                             libusb                                             x86_64                                       1:0.1.4-3.el7                                              xcp-ng-base                                        19 k
                             nut-client                                         x86_64                                       2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3                                         xcp-ng-ci                                         203 k
                            
                            Transaction Summary
                            ====================================================================================================================================================================================================================
                            Install  1 Package (+4 Dependent packages)
                            
                            Total download size: 4.5 M
                            Installed size: 20 M
                            Is this ok [y/d/N]: y
                            Downloading packages:
                            (1/5): libtool-ltdl-2.4.2-22.el7_3.x86_64.rpm                                                                                                                                                |  48 kB  00:00:00
                            (2/5): freeipmi-1.5.7-2.el7.x86_64.rpm                                                                                                                                                       | 2.0 MB  00:00:01
                            (3/5): libusb-0.1.4-3.el7.x86_64.rpm                                                                                                                                                         |  19 kB  00:00:00
                            (4/5): nut-client-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64.rpm                                                                                                                                              | 203 kB  00:00:00
                            (5/5): nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64.rpm                                                                                                                                                     | 2.2 MB  00:00:01
                            --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                            Total                                                                                                                                                                               1.7 MB/s | 4.5 MB  00:00:02
                            Running transaction check
                            Running transaction test
                            Transaction test succeeded
                            Running transaction
                              Installing : nut-client-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64                                                                                                                                                             1/5
                              Installing : freeipmi-1.5.7-2.el7.x86_64                                                                                                                                                                      2/5
                              Installing : libtool-ltdl-2.4.2-22.el7_3.x86_64                                                                                                                                                               3/5
                              Installing : 1:libusb-0.1.4-3.el7.x86_64                                                                                                                                                                      4/5
                              Installing : nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64                                                                                                                                                                    5/5
                              Verifying  : nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64                                                                                                                                                                    1/5
                              Verifying  : 1:libusb-0.1.4-3.el7.x86_64                                                                                                                                                                      2/5
                              Verifying  : libtool-ltdl-2.4.2-22.el7_3.x86_64                                                                                                                                                               3/5
                              Verifying  : freeipmi-1.5.7-2.el7.x86_64                                                                                                                                                                      4/5
                              Verifying  : nut-client-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64                                                                                                                                                             5/5
                            
                            Installed:
                              nut.x86_64 0:2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3
                            
                            Dependency Installed:
                              freeipmi.x86_64 0:1.5.7-2.el7                    libtool-ltdl.x86_64 0:2.4.2-22.el7_3                    libusb.x86_64 1:0.1.4-3.el7                    nut-client.x86_64 0:2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3
                            
                            Complete!
                            

                            I will let you know once I got some impressions.

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