Testing ZFS with XCP-ng

borzel

I did a test

Environment: XCP-ng 7.4 with latest yum updates

ZFS works as expected! (Note: ashift=12 --> I have 4k discs)
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Test1 - File SR ontop ZFS-Folder

created a new folder zfs create test/sr which is located at /mnt/zfs/sr
created a new file-sr xe sr-create host-uuid=<host-uuid> type=file shared=false name-label=<sr-label> device-config:location=/mnt/zfs/sr

Result: could not boot my ubuntu-vm

Test2 - Ext-SR ontop ZFS Blockdevice

created a new blockdevice zfs create -V 100G test/ext-sr
created a new EXT-SR xe sr-create content-type=user host-uuid=<host-uuid> shared=false type=ext device-config:device=/dev/zvol/test/ext-sr name-label=<sr-label>

Result: here my ubunt-vm also does not boot

Test 3 - Boot ubuntu-vm on "old" lvm SR

Result: could also not boot my ubuntu-vm

Hints

local copy of the vm was done without errors
in all three cases the vm got stuck on following boot-screen:
turning off the stuck vm takes a long time

Test 4

(after reading carefully your script and using other-config:o_direct=false)

Result: vm is booting

olivierlambert

Feel free to do some test (with fio for example, with bs=4k to test IOPS and bs=4M to test max throughput)

borzel

just now I watch the soccer games in russia, so just a little test

dd inside vm

root@ubuntu:~# dd if=/root/test.img of=/dev/null bs=4k
812740+0 Datensätze ein
812740+0 Datensätze aus
3328983040 bytes (3,3 GB, 3,1 GiB) copied, 17,4961 s, 190 MB/s

dd on host

[root@xen sr3]# dd if=./83377032-f3d5-411f-b049-2e76048fd4a2.vhd of=/dev/null bs=4k 
2307479+1 Datensätze ein
2307479+1 Datensätze aus
9451434496 Bytes (9,5 GB) kopiert, 38,5861 s, 245 MB/s

A side note: My disc's are happy now with ZFS, I hope you can see it

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r1

@nraynaud Nice Work! Will report on weekend with my tests.

@olivierlambert I love fio. bonnie++ is also worth a shot.

@borzel you have a floppy drive!!!

nraynaud

thanks @r1

I started a PR here: https://github.com/xapi-project/blktap/pull/253 it's not exactly the same code as the RPM above. Above, O_DIRECT has been completely removed altogether, so that people can compare ext3 without O_DIRECT and ZFS. In the PR, I am just removing O_DIRECT when an open() has failed.

It is not sure it will be accepted, I have no clue what their policy is, and no idea what their QA process is, we are really at the draft stage.

Nico.

nraynaud opened this pull request in xapi-project/blktap

closed make O_DIRECT optional #253

r1

@nraynaud may be an extra config parameter while sr-create will be a right way. Handling a fail may not seem appealing. My 2c.

borzel

Status update:

I installed XCP-ng 7.4 on a "Storage Server" with 16 x 2TB HDDs, gave DOM0 8GB of RAM and created a zpool (Sync off, Compress LZ4) and file-SR ontop.

In combination with a local XenOrchestra VM (and configured continious replication jobs) we now have a selfcontained "All-in-One Replication Server" without dependency on hardware raid controllers

In case of an emergency in my production storage/virtualisation environment I can boot every VM I need with just this one server. Or power up my DHCP-VM if the other systems are down for service on chrismas/new years eve

I'm more than very happy with that

Side note: This is of course not ready for "production" and doesn't replace our real backup...just in case someone asks

olivierlambert

How's the performance?

borzel

Currently hundred of gigabytes gets transfered

I switched xenorchestra from the VM to our hardware backup server, so we can use the 10Gbit cards. (The VM run iperf about 1,6 Gbit/s, the hardware at around 6 GBit/s.)

The data flow is:
NFS-Storage(ZFS) -> XenServer -> XO -> XCP-ng (ZFS), all connected over 10GBit Ethernet.

I did not measure correct numbers, was just impressed and happy that it runs

~~I will try to express my data and meanings more detailed later...~~

Setup

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Settings

Alle servers are connected via 10GBit ethernet cards (Emulex OnConnect)
Xen1 and Xen2 are a pool, Xen1 is master
XenOrchestra connects per http:// (no SSL to improve speed)
DOM0 has 8GB RAM on XCP-ng AiO (so ZFS does use 4GB)

Numbers

iperf between Backupserver and XCP-ng AiO: ~6 GBit's
Transfer speed of Continous Replication Job from Xen-Pool to XCP-ng AiO (output of zpool iostat with 30 seconds sample rate on XCP-ng AiO)

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The speed varies a bit because of lz4 compression, current Compress Ratio: 1.64x

Here a quick look at the graphs (on XCP-ng AiO)

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and a quick look at top (on XCP-ng AiO)

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and arcstat.py (sample rate 1sec) (on XCP-ng AiO)

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and arc_summary.py (on XCP-ng AiO)

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@olivierlambert I hope you can see somehting with these numbers

borzel

To avoid the problem with XenOrchestra runing as VM (and not using the full 10GBit of the host) I would install it directly inside DOM0. It could be preinstalled in XCP-ng as WEB-Gui

Maybe I try this later on my AiO Server ...

olivierlambert

Not a good idea to embed XO inside Dom0… (also it will cause issue if you have multiple XOs, it's meat to run at one place only).

That's why the virtual appliance is better

borzel

@olivierlambert My biggest Question: Why is this not a good Idea?

How do big datacenters solve the issue with the performance? Just install on Hardware? With virtual Appliance you are limited to GBit speed.

I run more than one XO's, one for Backups and one for Useraccess. Don't want users on my Backupserver.

Maybe this is something for a separat thread...

olivierlambert

VM speed is not limited to GBit speed. XO proxies will deal with big infrastructures to avoid bottlenecks.

borzel

@olivierlambert ah, ok

borzel

I did a little more testing with ZFS, tried to move a disk from localpool to srpool

Setup

XCP-ng on single 500Gb disk, ZFS-Pool created on a separat partition on that disk (~420GB) -> localpool -> SR named localzfs
ZFS-Pool on 4 x 500GB Disks (Raid10) -> srpool -> SR named sr1

Error

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Output of /var/log/SMLog

 Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28282] ['uuidgen', '-r']
 Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28282]   pread SUCCESS
 Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28282] lock: opening lock file /var/lock/sm/4c47f4b0-2504-fe56-085c-1ffe2269ddea/sr
 Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28282] lock: acquired /var/lock/sm/4c47f4b0-2504-fe56-085c-1ffe2269ddea/sr
 Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28282] vdi_create {'sr_uuid': '4c47f4b0-2504-fe56-085c-1ffe2269ddea', 'subtask_of':      'DummyRef:|62abb588-91e6-46d7-8c89-a1be48c843bd|VDI.create', 'vdi_type': 'system', 'args': ['10737418240', 'xo-os', '', '', 'false', '19700101T00:00:00Z', '', 'false'], 'o_direct': False, 'host_ref': 'OpaqueRef:ada301d3-f232-3421-527a-d511fd63f8c6', 'session_ref': 'OpaqueRef:02edf603-3cdf-444a-af75-1fb0a8d71216', 'device_config': {'SRmaster': 'true', 'location': '/mnt/srpool/sr1'}, 'command': 'vdi_create', 'sr_ref': 'OpaqueRef:0c8c4688-d402-4329-a99b-6273401246ec', 'vdi_sm_config': {}}
 Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28282] ['/usr/sbin/td-util', 'create', 'vhd', '10240', '/var/run/sr-mount/4c47f4b0-2504-fe56-085c-1ffe2269ddea/11a040ba-53fd-4119-80b3-7ea5a7e134c6.vhd']
 Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28282]   pread SUCCESS
 Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28282] ['/usr/sbin/td-util', 'query', 'vhd', '-v', '/var/run/sr-mount/4c47f4b0-2504-fe56-085c-     1ffe2269ddea/11a040ba-53fd-4119-80b3-7ea5a7e134c6.vhd']
 Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28282]   pread SUCCESS
 Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28282] lock: released /var/lock/sm/4c47f4b0-2504-fe56-085c-1ffe2269ddea/sr
 Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28282] lock: closed /var/lock/sm/4c47f4b0-2504-fe56-085c-1ffe2269ddea/sr
 Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28311] lock: opening lock file /var/lock/sm/319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154/sr
 Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28311] lock: acquired /var/lock/sm/319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154/sr
 Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28311] ['/usr/sbin/td-util', 'query', 'vhd', '-vpfb', '/var/run/sr-mount/319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154/ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0.vhd']
 Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28311]   pread SUCCESS
 Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28311] vdi_attach {'sr_uuid': '319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154', 'subtask_of': 'DummyRef:|b0cce7fa-75bb-4677-981a-4383e5fe1487|VDI.attach', 'vdi_ref': 'OpaqueRef:9daa47a5-1cae-40c2-b62e-88a767f38877', 'vdi_on_boot': 'persist', 'args': ['false'], 'o_direct': False, 'vdi_location': 'ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0', 'host_ref': 'OpaqueRef:ada301d3-f232-3421-527a-d511fd63f8c6', 'session_ref': 'OpaqueRef:a27b0e88-cebe-41a7-bc0c-ae0eb46dd011', 'device_config': {'SRmaster': 'true', 'location': '/localpool/sr'}, 'command': 'vdi_attach', 'vdi_allow_caching': 'false', 'sr_ref': 'OpaqueRef:e4d0225c-1737-4496-8701-86a7f7ac18c1', 'vdi_uuid': 'ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0'}
 Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28311] lock: opening lock file /var/lock/sm/ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0/vdi
 Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28311] result: {'o_direct_reason': 'SR_NOT_SUPPORTED', 'params': '/dev/sm/backend/319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154/ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0', 'o_direct': True, 'xenstore_data': {'scsi/0x12/0x80': 'AIAAEmNhODhmOGRjLTRhYjYtNGIgIA==', 'scsi/0x12/0x83': 'AIMAMQIBAC1YRU5TUkMgIGNhODhmOGRjLTRhYjYtNGJlNy05MDg0LTFiNDFjYmM4YzFjMCA=', 'vdi-uuid': 'ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0', 'mem-pool': '319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154'}}
 Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28311] lock: closed /var/lock/sm/ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0/vdi
 Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28311] lock: released /var/lock/sm/319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154/sr
 Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28311] lock: closed /var/lock/sm/319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154/sr
 Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337] lock: opening lock file /var/lock/sm/319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154/sr
 Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337] lock: acquired /var/lock/sm/319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154/sr
 Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337] ['/usr/sbin/td-util', 'query', 'vhd', '-vpfb', '/var/run/sr-mount/319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154/ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0.vhd']
 Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337]   pread SUCCESS
 Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337] lock: released /var/lock/sm/319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154/sr
 Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337] vdi_activate {'sr_uuid': '319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154', 'subtask_of': 'DummyRef:|1f6f53c2-0d1e-462c-aeea-5d109e55d44f|VDI.activate', 'vdi_ref': 'OpaqueRef:9daa47a5-1cae-40c2-b62e-88a767f38877', 'vdi_on_boot': 'persist', 'args': ['false'], 'o_direct': False, 'vdi_location': 'ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0', 'host_ref': 'OpaqueRef:ada301d3-f232-3421-527a-d511fd63f8c6', 'session_ref': 'OpaqueRef:392bd2b6-2a84-48ca-96f1-fe0bdaa96f20', 'device_config': {'SRmaster': 'true', 'location': '/localpool/sr'}, 'command': 'vdi_activate', 'vdi_allow_caching': 'false', 'sr_ref': 'OpaqueRef:e4d0225c-1737-4496-8701-86a7f7ac18c1', 'vdi_uuid': 'ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0'}
 Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337] lock: opening lock file /var/lock/sm/ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0/vdi
 Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337] blktap2.activate
 Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337] lock: acquired /var/lock/sm/ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0/vdi
 Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337] Adding tag to: ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0
 Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337] Activate lock succeeded
 Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337] lock: opening lock file /var/lock/sm/319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154/sr
 Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337] ['/usr/sbin/td-util', 'query', 'vhd', '-vpfb', '/var/run/sr-mount/319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154/ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0.vhd']
 Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337]   pread SUCCESS

borzel

@borzel said in Testing ZFS with XCP-ng:

Jul 7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28311] result: {'o_direct_reason': 'SR_NOT_SUPPORTED',

Did find it after posting this and looking onto it... is this a known thing?

nraynaud

that's weird: https://github.com/xapi-project/sm/blob/master/drivers/blktap2.py#L1002

I don't even know how my tests did work before.

olivierlambert

Maybe because it wasn't triggered without a VDI live migration?

borzel

~~did no livemigration ...just local copy of a vm~~
... ah, I should read before I answer ...

borzel

~~@nraynaud Is there any info how to build blktap2 myself to test with my homelab?~~
I did find it here: https://xcp-ng.org/forum/topic/122/how-to-build-blktap-from-sources/3