Hello.

I have been proxmox user for years , but I recently noticed the increasing interest on xcp-ng (specially by home lab enthusiasts) so I decided to give it a go.

So far the experience hasn’t been the greatest to be honest. I migrated a few VMs from my old installation using clonezilla, but the they take a long time ( compared to promox) to boot. They are all Debian and Ubuntu legacy Bios machines and the stay for almost 30 seconds on loading initial ramdisk
Inhale a windows and another linux machine using EUFI and these boot fine. No noticeable difference from before ( maybe a tiny slower, but hey....).

Hardware is exactly the same as proxmox ( a small intel nuc i7 8th gen with 32gb of ram )

I tried to create a new vm and install Debian using both Debian 10 template and other linux..... and same problem with initial ramdisk taking forever to load..( at some point i thought clonezilla had made something fishy).

Any idea what’s going on?? Is legacy bios on Xcp-ng a complete dump or what ?

@Forza I don’t use xcp-ng anymore. I have a machine i can install it to try out but I haven’t had time lately.

@manilx I can tell you this is extremely dois compare to proxmox for exemple. My Debian VMs with one CORe on a i5-12400 boot in half of that time.

@imaginapix

Well mini was on initramfs. Boot part. I never used cloud init for anything

@olivierlambert

I haven’t used XCP-ng for a while , but the issues I had were similar. Around 10-12 secs from grub to prompt. Both in Debian or Ubuntu server. For some reason I remember the machines booted way faster using uefi than bios, so I always thought it was some odd issue with your bio’s implementation

I have a machine I can install xcp-ng to test … I’ll give it a go soon.

@olivierlambert yes like smart info, disk wear etc…

@olivierlambert thanks. The zen part was typo phone autocorrect. As long as XO CE continues to be a th9ng it’s fine by me.
Oh..btw, don’t know if this was already suggested or not but would interesting to have some sort of disk health info in XO. To be honest it’s the only thing I miss from proxmox.

Hello.

Is there any place where we can get more details about Xen Orchestra lite? Release date ? Will it support backups ? Etc…
Thanks.
( currently running XO Community edition on a docker container and it works fine for my small home lab… I know , i know it’s not “officially” supported but zero issues so far and it’s easy to keep it to date )

@olivierlambert performance has bit taken a hit lately. Also vms not booting after reboot or power failure, failing backups...just a few exemples. Not to mention that in 6 months it's the second ssd proxmox kills for me. Apparently it's a know issue with the PVE kernel

@olivierlambert said in Why was dynamic memory allocation deprecated?:

there's just caveat to be able to use it correctly, but obviously, feedback welcome in case of issues

Care to to explain the caveat

P.S. I'm cloning my vm's using clonezilla as week speak to migrate them to XCP-NG

@danp maybe i should have used the term over provisioning...

Hi! I’m currently a proxmox user but I’ve been thinking of moving to xcpng! I really don’t like the way thing are going with proxmox so I’m looking for an alternative. Still one of the features I like with prox is that it supports dynamic memory allocation ( not fully reserved as vm is turned on). From what I could understand this has been deprecated from Xcp-ng a while back and I would like to know why.

Thanks
J.