Alert: Control Domain Memory Usage
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@olivierlambert said in Alert: Control Domain Memory Usage:
Netdata
Hello Oliver,
thanks for your quick Response.Yes, htop is much prettier, but it doen`t see more the top, at least in this case:
I think, Netdata will also just see those things?
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- Can you restart the toolstack and see if it changes memory footprint?
- Anything suspicious in
dmesg?
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- toolstack restart didn`t change much
- good idea: Indeed there are some entries in dmesg:
[4286099.036105] Status code returned 0xc000006d STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE [4286099.036116] CIFS VFS: Send error in SessSetup = -13With "mount" i can see two old cifs iso libaries, which have allready been detached from the pool.
I was able to unmount one of them.
The other one is busy:
umount: /run/sr-mount/43310179-cf17-1942-7845-59bf55cb3550: target is busy.I will have a look into it a little later and report.
Thanks.
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I was not able to find what was keeping the target busy.
I did a lazy unmount "umount -l", since then i have no new dmesg lines, but the memory isn`t freed.
So i`m not sure, if this is/was the reason for the Problem. Other Servers in the pool have this same old mount, but do not use this much of RAM. But i will check cifs mounts, the next time i see this Problem.
I`m still looking for a way how to find out what is using this memory, when there is no process visible which uses it. Even though this may be a common Linux question
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I had a look at another server in another pool this morning, which also had memory alerts.
Gues what: There was an unresponsive CIFS ISO share too.
The share looked like it was online form XCP-NG Center, but the containing isos were not shown.
I could not detach it from XCP-NG Center, but after a few tries i could do a pbd-unplug.
This share was on a smal NAS, which may have been restarted during the pool was running.
So maybe something happens when you have a unresponsive CIFS ISO share, that eats up your RAM.
If this is realy the reason, i think this behaviour changed in never versions om XCP-NG/Xenserver. I had dozens of servers, where the ISO store credentials changed or/and the CIFS servers has been restarted, without this Problem.
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We're seeing the same kind of development on two servers. Nothing interesting in dmesg or so.
Will have to resize for now I guess.
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@dave said in Alert: Control Domain Memory Usage:
@olivierlambert said in Alert: Control Domain Memory Usage:
Netdata
Hello Oliver,
thanks for your quick Response.Yes, htop is much prettier, but it doen`t see more the top, at least in this case:
I think, Netdata will also just see those things?
Hi there! Hope it's okay that I answer regarding this topic....
We've also this Error and in 'Notifications' in the XCP-NG Center I can see the following:
Is there any possibility to resolve this error without restarting the hole host? How can I restart the toolstack? Can I do it without an interrupt of the business?
We've also raised up the Memory for the Controller Domain from 4 --> 8GB..... -
In Xen Orchestra, restarting the toolstack is clicking on a button. This won't affect running VMs (except if you are in the middle of an hypervisor operation, like migrating/exporting). Restarting the toolstack won't fundamentally solve your issue.
Adding more memory into the dom0 is a good idea in general (depending on the total memory you have). 8GiB is a good start. This will require a host reboot in any case, to be taken into account.
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@olivierlambert said in Alert: Control Domain Memory Usage:
In Xen Orchestra, restarting the toolstack is clicking on a button. This won't affect running VMs (except if you are in the middle of an hypervisor operation, like migrating/exporting). Restarting the toolstack won't fundamentally solve your issue.
Adding more memory into the dom0 is a good idea in general (depending on the total memory you have). 8GiB is a good start. This will require a host reboot in any case, to be taken into account.
Hi Olivier, thanks for your fast reply. We've identified on our systems that the Openvswitch needs a lot of memory and therefore we wanna restart it.
Is it possible to do this without restarting the hole host and without an downtime? -
Just use systemd restart to do that (eg
systemctl restart <whatever>).Regarding growing memory on your host, this will require a reboot though.
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Hi, i still have this problem on 5 hosts in 2 pools. I increased the dom0 memory to 12GB and 16GB, but its still happening. XCP 8.0 and 8.1 involved. On hosts with more VMs it occures more often then on hosts with less VMs. Its happens between 40 - 140 days, depending on the number of VMs running.
Yes, ownvswitch has the greatest memory usage, but ist still only a small percentage. I still cant see, what eats up the memory. Restarting XAPI doensn`t change anything.
top - 18:37:06 up 144 days, 19:43, 1 user, load average: 2.23, 2.12, 2.16 Tasks: 443 total, 1 running, 272 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie %Cpu(s): 1.3 us, 1.7 sy, 0.0 ni, 95.7 id, 0.8 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.1 si, 0.4 st KiB Mem : 12205932 total, 91920 free, 11932860 used, 181152 buff/cache KiB Swap: 1048572 total, 807616 free, 240956 used. 24552 avail Mem PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 2248 root 10 -10 1302696 158708 9756 S 1.0 1.3 2057:54 ovs-vswitchd 3018 root 20 0 597328 25804 4 S 0.3 0.2 635:40.46 xapi 1653 root 20 0 255940 20628 1088 S 0.0 0.2 1517:12 xcp-rrdd 1321 root 20 0 142596 15100 7228 S 0.3 0.1 40:49.02 message-switch 6571 root 20 0 213720 12164 4920 S 0.0 0.1 9:30.58 python 1719 root 20 0 62480 9980 3488 S 0.0 0.1 269:35.54 xcp-rrdd-xenpm 13506 root 20 0 43828 9652 2856 S 0.0 0.1 0:05.11 tapdisk 1721 root 20 0 111596 8684 1592 S 0.0 0.1 337:51.20 xcp-rrdd-iostat 2342 root 20 0 138220 8656 2744 S 0.0 0.1 218:17.74 xcp-networkd 1639 root 20 0 1241012 8428 6024 S 0.0 0.1 150:25.56 multipathd 6092 root 20 0 42428 7924 3924 S 17.2 0.1 2987:48 tapdisk 1649 root 20 0 75116 6980 2192 S 0.0 0.1 294:06.89 oxenstored 5436 root 10 -10 35432 6760 4112 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.03 iscsid 13898 root 20 0 40824 6648 2856 S 0.0 0.1 0:09.13 tapdisk 3547 root 20 0 39852 5564 3376 S 0.7 0.0 54:01.72 tapdisk 3006 root 20 0 40028 5460 2496 S 14.2 0.0 19:10.48 tapdisk 1326 root 20 0 67612 5220 2840 S 0.0 0.0 529:23.01 forkexecd 3027 root 20 0 108028 5176 5176 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 xapi-nbd 15298 root 20 0 39644 5156 3940 S 0.7 0.0 853:39.92 tapdisk 3694 root 20 0 238044 5084 5084 S 0.0 0.0 0:01.39 python 6945 root 20 0 39484 4860 3804 S 15.8 0.0 591:05.22 tapdisk 24422 root 20 0 44980 4844 4756 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.22 stunnel 11328 root 20 0 44980 4684 4640 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.06 stunnel 2987 root 20 0 44980 4608 4440 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.29 stunnel 6095 root 20 0 38768 4588 2912 S 0.0 0.0 764:33.14 tapdisk 1322 root 20 0 69848 4388 3772 S 0.0 0.0 1:15.05 varstored-guard 14873 root 20 0 38688 4360 2744 S 0.0 0.0 57:33.78 tapdisk 1329 root 20 0 371368 4244 3664 S 0.0 0.0 0:41.49 snapwatchd 1328 root 20 0 112824 4212 4212 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 sshd 2219 root 10 -10 44788 4004 3064 S 0.0 0.0 138:30.56 ovsdb-server 3278 root 20 0 307316 3960 3764 S 0.0 0.0 3:15.34 stunnel 17064 root 20 0 153116 3948 3772 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.16 sshd 30189 root 20 0 38128 3716 2828 S 0.0 0.0 97:30.65 tapdisk@olivierlambert Do you have an idea how to get to the root of this? Is it maybe possible to get some (paid) support to check this?
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Sounds like a memory leak. It's hard to pinpoint in general. I would say that investigating on 8.2 as soon it's out would be probably a better thing to do (it will be an LTS).
It will be out in beta soon
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Just to add that us too have been experiencing the issue pointed out by Dave since we upgraded to 8.0. Even if the in place upgrade did bump the Dom0 memory from 4 to 8GB, we started to get out of memory errors on the pool master after an uptime of around 60 to 70 days.
Our current solution as mentioned in the thread too, is to icrease the memory for Dom0 to 32GBs but this does only buys us more time until the next reboot.
The main problem is that once this happens, backups start to fail and the only solution is to empty the host and reboot, which can be disruptive to some large VMs that don't seem to support live migration very well.
To add some more data, here is a graph of the memory consumption in the master of one of our pools, uptime starts at around week 33 and week 43 is current time (pending a reboot and memory increase for that host). This is a pool of three hosts and 80 vms.
Let me know if we can help with log data or anything else.
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Please migrate to 8.1 and report if you have the same behavior.
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@inaki-martinez Could you find out if a specific program uses that memory?
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@olivierlambert will upgrade our test environment and see if we can see the issue happening again.
@stormi there is nothing using particularly too much ram, listing processes by their RSS rss_usage.txt -
@olivierlambert this still happens at 8.1 also
@stormi it seems that the memory is eating somewhere and doesn't point to specific program. @dave also described here https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/31693 -
I'd be interested in accessing remotely any host that has this kind of high memory usage without any specific process being an obvious culprit, if someone can give me such access.
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@stormi I currently have this one:
top - 15:55:55 up 30 days, 19:31, 1 user, load average: 0.13, 0.19, 0.23 Tasks: 645 total, 1 running, 437 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie %Cpu(s): 0.7 us, 0.7 sy, 0.0 ni, 97.9 id, 0.5 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, 0.2 st KiB Mem : 12205936 total, 159044 free, 6327592 used, 5719300 buff/cache KiB Swap: 1048572 total, 1048572 free, 0 used. 5455076 avail Mem PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 11785 root 20 0 38944 4516 3256 S 3.6 0.0 27:50.89 tapdisk 16619 root 20 0 71988 37640 35464 S 2.0 0.3 1048:44 tapdisk 2179 root 10 -10 1302860 155032 9756 S 1.7 1.3 699:20.93 ovs-vswitchd 8627 root 20 0 42496 8276 5896 S 1.3 0.1 645:07.94 tapdisk 12127 65572 20 0 220692 14508 9220 S 1.3 0.1 105:51.34 qemu-system-i38 15573 65567 20 0 228884 14880 9168 S 1.3 0.1 113:17.76 qemu-system-i38 16713 root 20 0 71244 37060 35636 S 1.3 0.3 431:04.58 tapdisk 17124 65565 20 0 253460 15536 9212 S 1.3 0.1 230:28.27 qemu-system-i38 507 65547 20 0 204308 13576 9176 S 1.0 0.1 374:00.32 qemu-system-i38 1348 65548 20 0 199188 15852 9268 S 1.0 0.1 478:44.62 qemu-system-i38 1822 root 20 0 122268 15792 6292 S 1.0 0.1 251:54.49 xcp-rrdd-iostat 3560 65549 20 0 236052 15696 9272 S 1.0 0.1 478:25.30 qemu-system-i38 4049 65550 20 0 211476 13712 9096 S 1.0 0.1 374:53.29 qemu-system-i38 9089 65566 20 0 225812 16328 9236 S 1.0 0.1 226:40.10 qemu-system-i38 19051 65555 20 0 213524 14960 9444 S 1.0 0.1 312:44.65 qemu-system-i38 22650 65540 20 0 231956 14016 9104 S 1.0 0.1 476:19.21 qemu-system-i38 28280 65543 20 0 284180 14356 9180 S 1.0 0.1 481:22.74 qemu-system-i38 28702 65544 20 0 194068 13636 9020 S 1.0 0.1 373:26.97 qemu-system-i38 28981 65568 20 0 174604 15528 9244 S 1.0 0.1 107:15.89 qemu-system-i38 29745 65541 20 0 171532 13792 9132 S 1.0 0.1 476:38.74 qemu-system-i38 1244 root 20 0 67656 8252 4576 S 0.7 0.1 160:47.13 forkexecd 4993 root 20 0 180476 10244 3608 S 0.7 0.1 50:10.80 mpathalert 7194 root 20 0 162508 5052 3824 R 0.7 0.0 0:00.67 top 15180 root 20 0 44744 10500 9328 S 0.7 0.1 26:43.32 tapdisk 16643 65573 20 0 229908 14280 9220 S 0.7 0.1 66:42.94 qemu-system-i38 18769 root 20 0 46616 12316 10912 S 0.7 0.1 241:10.00 tapdisk 22133 65539 20 0 13.3g 16384 9180 S 0.7 0.1 374:26.35 qemu-system-i38 10 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.3 0.0 47:35.79 rcu_sched 2291 root 20 0 138300 16168 7660 S 0.3 0.1 65:30.99 xcp-networkd 3029 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.3 0.0 0:02.12 kworker/6:0-eve 3100 root 20 0 95448 17028 9280 S 0.3 0.1 76:30.01 xapi-storage-sc 3902 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.3 0.0 0:07.16 kworker/u32:0-b 3909 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.3 0.0 0:07.48 kworker/u32:4-b 6663 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 70:40.93 kdmwork-253:0 7826 root 20 0 193828 4224 3668 S 0.3 0.0 0:00.01 login 8626 root 20 0 71368 37184 35636 S 0.3 0.3 345:42.82 tapdiskPlease contact me with a DM.
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@dave The situation looks normal to me in this host, with a lot of RAM being used for buffers and cache, contrarily to the starved situation you posted about a month ago. Only half the RAM is counted as used. Is it more than normal?
