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    after downgrading xcp host from trail 90% of my vms are not booting..

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    • C Offline
      cyford @Danp
      last edited by cyford

      @Danp
      i did not know there was more than 1 trial .
      yall have " please try for free listed" everywhere in XOA
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      it only last 15 days then downgrades everything.. it all worked till i rebooted the vms

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        cyford @Danp
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        @Danp

        no , restart toolstack or the server does not work.

        there is only 1 host
        2 Sr's are local.. 1 is SAS drives raid 0 , and the other is SSD SAS raid 0

        the only one that works is raid 1 local drive. i also see it has a cache read options the others do not have
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        steps i took to downgrade was what it asked me in the xoa updaters page after the trial ended

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          cyford @cyford
          last edited by Danp

          xe host-list params=all
          uuid ( RO)                                  : e0c75bac-ee42-40f6-a5a3-3a8d60619c76
                                      name-label ( RW): KK-XCP-00
                                name-description ( RW): Default install
                              allowed-operations (SRO): VM.migrate; provision; VM.resume; evacuate; VM.start
                              current-operations (SRO):
                                         enabled ( RO): true
                                         display ( RO): enabled
                               API-version-major ( RO): 2
                               API-version-minor ( RO): 16
                              API-version-vendor ( RO): XenSource
               API-version-vendor-implementation (MRO):
                                         logging (MRW):
                           suspend-image-sr-uuid ( RW): 37e44f4e-632f-9bfc-23a8-986ade23c001
                              crash-dump-sr-uuid ( RW): 37e44f4e-632f-9bfc-23a8-986ade23c001
                                software-version (MRO): product_version: 8.2.1; product_version_text: 8.2; product_version_text_short: 8.2; platform_name: XCP; platform_version: 3.2.1; product_brand: XCP-ng; build_number: release/yangtze/master/58; hostname: localhost; date: 2023-10-18; dbv: 0.0.1; xapi: 1.20; xen: 4.13.5-9.38; linux: 4.19.0+1; xencenter_min: 2.16; xencenter_max: 2.16; network_backend: openvswitch; db_schema: 5.603
                                    capabilities (SRO): xen-3.0-x86_64; hvm-3.0-x86_32; hvm-3.0-x86_32p; hvm-3.0-x86_64;
                                    other-config (MRW): MAINTENANCE_MODE_EVACUATED_VMS_MIGRATED: 14cbdb20-23b4-a0db-c557-cddbefba6ea2,0632624b-528a-cc83-1a12-d8586e8955c5,3d917ad8-78b3-d8b5-dea2-66012afdf519,c2bc2168-3c82-d3ed-46e9-5042b76e2041; agent_start_time: 1712776555.; boot_time: 1712087003.; iscsi_iqn: iqn.2023-09.localdomain:2c6b2e0b
                                        cpu_info (MRO): cpu_count: 40; socket_count: 2; vendor: GenuineIntel; speed: 2793.288; modelname: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v2 @ 2.80GHz; family: 6; model: 62; stepping: 4; flags: fpu de tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mca cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc cpuid pni pclmulqdq monitor est ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes xsave avx f16c rdrand hypervisor lahf_lm cpuid_fault ssbd ibrs ibpb stibp fsgsbase erms xsaveopt; features_pv: 1fc9cbf5-f6b82203-2991cbf5-00000003-00000001-00000201-00000000-00000000-00001000-ac000400-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00080004-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000; features_hvm: 1fcbfbff-f7ba2223-2d93fbff-00000403-00000001-00000281-00000000-00000000-00001000-bc000400-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00080004-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000; features_hvm_host: 1fcbfbff-f7ba2223-2c100800-00000001-00000001-00000281-00000000-00000000-00001000-9c000400-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000; features_pv_host: 1fc9cbf5-f6b82203-28100800-00000001-00000001-00000201-00000000-00000000-00001000-8c000400-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000
                                    chipset-info (MRO): iommu: true
                                        hostname ( RO): kk-xcp-00
                                         address ( RO): 192.168.1.253
                                      https-only ( RW): false
                           supported-bootloaders (SRO): pygrub; eliloader
                                           blobs ( RO):
                                 memory-overhead ( RO): 3789463552
                                    memory-total ( RO): 274841501696
                                     memory-free ( RO): 255254724608
                            memory-free-computed ( RO): <expensive field>
                               host-metrics-live ( RO): true
                            patches (SRO) [DEPRECATED]:
                                         updates (SRO):
                                   ha-statefiles ( RO):
                                ha-network-peers ( RO):
                              external-auth-type ( RO):
                      external-auth-service-name ( RO):
                     external-auth-configuration (MRO):
                                         edition ( RO): xcp-ng
                                  license-server (MRO): address: localhost; port: 27000
                                   power-on-mode ( RO):
                                 power-on-config (MRO):
                                  local-cache-sr ( RO): <not in database>
                                            tags (SRW):
                                      ssl-legacy ( RW): false
                              guest_VCPUs_params (MRW):
              virtual-hardware-platform-versions (SRO): 0; 1; 2
                             control-domain-uuid ( RO): a1352c71-c941-4fbb-8074-14a438cfadaa
                                    resident-vms (SRO): 14cbdb20-23b4-a0db-c557-cddbefba6ea2; 0632624b-528a-cc83-1a12-d8586e8955c5; 3d917ad8-78b3-d8b5-dea2-66012afdf519; c2bc2168-3c82-d3ed-46e9-5042b76e2041; a1352c71-c941-4fbb-8074-14a438cfadaa
                        updates-requiring-reboot (SRO):
                                        features (SRO):
                                       iscsi_iqn ( RW): iqn.2023-09.localdomain:2c6b2e0b
                                    multipathing ( RW): false
          

          Give this id to the support: 36519

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          • DanpD Offline
            Danp Pro Support Team @cyford
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            @cyford The thread title mentioned XCP host and trial, so I thought that maybe you were referring to the XCP-ng v8.3 beta that is currently available for testing. That's why I asked for more information so that we can be sure how to best assist you.

            Downgrading your XOA from a Premium trial to XOA Free wouldn't cause the issues that you are describing, so something else must be happening here. I can see the error message in your screenshot, but otherwise it's not really helpful.

            I haven't used the Windows client in forever, so I can't tell if the toolstack restart was successful or failed. Can you try restarting the toolstack using XOA? Also, can you show us a screenshot of the host's Storage tab in XOA?

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              cyford @Danp
              last edited by

              @Danp

              ok yeah i would of said upgrade.. but yes i try to keep it simple so i dont break anything and loose months of work lol

              i did the trial to see if i can gain performace, as my last topid was performance issues..
              with kubernetes running in vms..

              then i also opened it up with longhorn pvc provider , in which i learned there seems to be a lack of I/o in these vms

              https://github.com/longhorn/longhorn/issues/8303

              i xoa locked me aout an wouldnt do anything till i downgrad so i did as it asked.. i do not know what i douwngrated to or what it did behind the scenes..

              systems was working for a while but i seen vms started acting up .. so natuarally rebooting them has always fixed it.. not this time.. only vms on /dev/sda are working now

              cyford created this issue in longhorn/longhorn

              closed [BUG] Stability issues on XCP-ng VMs #8303

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              • DanpD Offline
                Danp Pro Support Team @cyford
                last edited by

                @cyford said in after downgrading xcp host from trail 90% of my vms are not booting..:

                i xoa locked me aout an wouldnt do anything till i downgrad so i did as it asked.. i do not know what i douwngrated to or what it did behind the scenes..

                Your trial expired, so it forced you to revert to XOA Free and no longer you had access to features such as backups but you are still able to manage your VMs.

                systems was working for a while but i seen vms started acting up .. so natuarally rebooting them has always fixed it.. not this time.. only vms on /dev/sda are working now

                It sounds like you have storage that isn't mounting, which wouldn't have anything to do with XOA and wouldn't have been caused by downgrading from the Premium trial.

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                  cyford @Danp
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                  @Danp

                  Thanks Danp , it is curtainly a huge coincidence then .. my i/o issues had me rebooting constantly for weeks.. soon as i downgrade i can not reboot anymore.. Anyways how can i force it being mounted

                  i do see a error about the vdi failed when scaning the repo..
                  please do not tell me i need to delete all an recreate them
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                    cyford @cyford
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                    @cyford
                    also when the trial expires the whole panel is useless till you downgrade.. everylink you click takes you to the downgrade.. u can not use xoa till the downgrade is complete

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                      manilx @cyford
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                      @cyford How about https://forums.lawrencesystems.com/t/how-to-build-xen-orchestra-from-sources-2024/19913

                      Takes you 15min

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                      • DanpD Offline
                        Danp Pro Support Team @cyford
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                        @cyford said in after downgrading xcp host from trail 90% of my vms are not booting..:

                        everylink you click takes you to the downgrade.. u can not use xoa till the downgrade is complete

                        Yes, that is clearly by design.

                        my i/o issues had me rebooting constantly for weeks.. soon as i downgrade i can not reboot anymore..

                        Sounds like you were having storage problems before the XOA downgrade.

                        i do see a error about the vdi failed when scaning the repo..
                        please do not tell me i need to delete all an recreate them

                        You could check /var/log/SMlog to see if it provides further details related to this VDI.

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                          cyford @Danp
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                          @Danp

                          thats not correct . only in these vm's there is issues, test proves fine in the host or any other os performance issues and errors is only in the vm's themselves

                          also in the host it shows as there mounted and all drives test fine and have great speed an performance in the host

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                            cyford
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                            here is the complete logs for smlog

                            https://pastebin.com/TPWJnZJW

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                              cyford @Danp
                              last edited by Danp

                              @Danp said in after downgrading xcp host from trail 90% of my vms are not booting..:

                              I haven't used the Windows client in forever, so I can't tell if the toolstack restart was successful or failed. Can you try restarting the toolstack using XOA? Also, can you show us a screenshot of the host's Storage tab in XOA?

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                              i restarted it in xoa aswell it doesnt work

                              when i start a vm this is what i see in the logs:

                              Apr 11 14:59:33 kk-xcp-00 SM: [31761] lock: opening lock file /var/lock/sm/4679372d-1f16-5dce-68dd-6984f5009a94/sr
                              Apr 11 14:59:33 kk-xcp-00 SM: [31761] LVMCache created for VG_XenStorage-4679372d-1f16-5dce-68dd-6984f5009a94
                              Apr 11 14:59:33 kk-xcp-00 SM: [31761] lock: opening lock file /var/lock/sm/.nil/lvm
                              Apr 11 14:59:33 kk-xcp-00 SM: [31761] ['/sbin/vgs', '--readonly', 'VG_XenStorage-4679372d-1f16-5dce-68dd-6984f5009a94']
                              Apr 11 14:59:34 kk-xcp-00 SM: [31761] FAILED in util.pread: (rc 5) stdout: '', stderr: '  Volume group "VG_XenStorage-4679372d-1f16-5dce-68dd-6984f5009a94" not found
                              Apr 11 14:59:34 kk-xcp-00 SM: [31761]   Cannot process volume group VG_XenStorage-4679372d-1f16-5dce-68dd-6984f5009a94
                              Apr 11 14:59:34 kk-xcp-00 SM: [31761] '
                              Apr 11 14:59:34 kk-xcp-00 SM: [31761] LVMCache: will initialize now
                              Apr 11 14:59:34 kk-xcp-00 SM: [31761] LVMCache: refreshing
                              Apr 11 14:59:34 kk-xcp-00 SM: [31761] lock: acquired /var/lock/sm/.nil/lvm
                              Apr 11 14:59:34 kk-xcp-00 SM: [31761] ['/sbin/lvs', '--noheadings', '--units', 'b', '-o', '+lv_tags', '/dev/VG_XenStorage-4679372d-1f16-5dce-68dd-6984f5009a94']
                              Apr 11 14:59:34 kk-xcp-00 SM: [31761] FAILED in util.pread: (rc 5) stdout: '', stderr: '  Volume group "VG_XenStorage-4679372d-1f16-5dce-68dd-6984f5009a94" not found
                              Apr 11 14:59:34 kk-xcp-00 SM: [31761]   Cannot process volume group VG_XenStorage-4679372d-1f16-5dce-68dd-6984f5009a94
                              Apr 11 14:59:34 kk-xcp-00 SM: [31761] '
                              Apr 11 14:59:34 kk-xcp-00 SM: [31761] lock: released /var/lock/sm/.nil/lvm
                              Apr 11 14:59:34 kk-xcp-00 SM: [31761] vdi_epoch_begin {'sr_uuid': '4679372d-1f16-5dce-68dd-6984f5009a94', 'subtask_of': 'DummyRef:|a036458a-6043-476f-bce5-21a6ca72d1dc|VDI.epoch_begin', 'vdi_ref': 'OpaqueRef:3a903002-b13c-48b7-990e-f466fe0b6037', 'vdi_on_boot': 'persist', 'args': [], 'vdi_location': 'c0fe61ce-931d-4f51-bb78-6595edb4d4f6', 'host_ref': 'OpaqueRef:e40ba20c-5291-43e3-8a40-bcc6332ad750', 'session_ref': 'OpaqueRef:68bc589a-0524-4ced-81e6-b789e0592581', 'device_config': {'device': '/dev/sdb', 'SRmaster': 'true'}, 'command': 'vdi_epoch_begin', 'vdi_allow_caching': 'false', 'sr_ref': 'OpaqueRef:f2bc7092-9ba7-40ac-b3a1-f01228ee2079', 'vdi_uuid': 'c0fe61ce-931d-4f51-bb78-6595edb4d4f6'}
                              
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                              • DanpD Offline
                                Danp Pro Support Team
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                                I haven't checked your pastebin yet, but those definitely appear to be storage issues to me based on the logs shown in your screen shots. You should post the output of pvdisplay, lvdisplay, and vgdisplay for the affected storage.

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                                  cyford @Danp
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                                  @Danp

                                  reboote the server and it did not come up lol dude these drives are good, hardware is good.. something to do with this hypervisor.. think i may need to reinstall the os tommorow..

                                  if there is a repair option in this iso i will try it..

                                  most is kubernetes so deploying is easy .. but my git was not updated in weeks so im scared i will loose data from one of the vms. i wish i could mount it somehow externally is that possible?

                                  ill run your commands tommorow though

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                                    Danp Pro Support Team @cyford
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                                    @cyford said in after downgrading xcp host from trail 90% of my vms are not booting..:

                                    2 Sr's are local.. 1 is SAS drives raid 0 , and the other is SSD SAS raid 0

                                    the only one that works is raid 1 local drive

                                    I'm confused by the above. Are there 2 local SRs or 3? How were these created?

                                    Which SRs are working correctly and which SRs are giving you problems?

                                    @cyford said in after downgrading xcp host from trail 90% of my vms are not booting..:

                                    when i start a vm this is what i see in the logs:
                                    Apr 11 14:59:34 kk-xcp-00 SM: [31761] FAILED in util.pread: (rc 5) stdout: '', stderr: ' Volume group "VG_XenStorage-4679372d-1f16-5dce-68dd-6984f5009a94" not found
                                    Apr 11 14:59:34 kk-xcp-00 SM: [31761] Cannot process volume group VG_XenStorage-4679372d-1f16-5dce-68dd-6984f5009a94

                                    When you create an SR, it builds a file system on the target device. In the above, it is trying to access a volume group that no longer appears to exist. This is a storage problem.

                                    @cyford said in after downgrading xcp host from trail 90% of my vms are not booting..:

                                    reboote the server and it did not come up lol dude these drives are good, hardware is good.. something to do with this hypervisor

                                    I said that you appear to have a storage problem, which doesn't necessarily imply a hardware problem.

                                    i wish i could mount it somehow externally is that possible?

                                    I imagine so, but it depends on many factors that are unknown at this time.

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                                      cyford @Danp
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                                      @Danp

                                      just want to say after reinstalling all and recreating the all repositories i do have any disk errors or IO issues

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                                        Danp Pro Support Team @cyford
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                                        @cyford said in after downgrading xcp host from trail 90% of my vms are not booting..:

                                        @Danp

                                        just want to say after reinstalling all and recreating the all repositories i do have any disk errors or IO issues

                                        I assume that you meant to Include a not in there. 😁

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                                          cyford @Danp
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                                          @Danp

                                          yes your correct .. however my source issues started again..

                                          there is some issue using kubernetes, longhorn with mariadb operator in xcpng

                                          having a hard time tracking down the root cause

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