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    • T Offline
      ThierryEscande Vates πŸͺ XCP-ng Team
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      We have a new kernel-alt release available for testing purpose. This is only for XCP-ng 8.2.1 for now. The package for XCP-ng 8.3 should land soon.

      ⚠ THIS IS A TEMPORARY REPO FOR TESTING PURPOSE ONLY ⚠

      To install this kernel-alt package:

      • Edit the xcp-ng.repo file
      # vi /etc/yum.repos.d/xcp-ng.repo
      
      • Add the following lines at the end of the file:
      [xcp-ng-tescande]
      name=XCP-ng 8.2 tescande User Repository
      baseurl=https://koji.xcp-ng.org/repos/user/8/8.2/tescande1/x86_64/
      enabled=0
      gpgcheck=0
      priority=1
      
      • Install the kernel-alt package
      # yum --enablerepo=xcp-ng-tescande install kernel-alt
      
      • Reboot and select XCP-ng kernel-alt 4.19.309 at the grub screen.
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      • RIX_ITR Offline
        RIX_IT @ThierryEscande
        last edited by

        @ThierryEscande
        I've upgraded to the kernel-alt 4.19.309 while still using the old UEFI (kae110k 1.41). Currently the IPMI modules are not blacklisted in the modprobe config.

        The fan speeds remain stuck at 9k RPMs, consistent with both the stable and previous alt kernel versions.

        I also attempted to upgrade again to the newest UEFI (kae118m 4.11) but didn't notice any discernible difference in fan behavior - here it's still around 13k RPMs.
        The ipmitool output also didn't change from the one @rmaclachlan provided.

        If there are any other suggestions for testing or specific logs you'd like me to provide, please let me know.

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          ThierryEscande Vates πŸͺ XCP-ng Team @RIX_IT
          last edited by

          @RIX_IT Thanks for your feedback.

          Can you please share the output of dmesg and xl dmesg ?

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            ThierryEscande Vates πŸͺ XCP-ng Team
            last edited by

            Even if this will probably be same as with XCP-ng 8.2, the kernel-alt package is available for 8.3.

            Same steps as in my previous post, except for the repo URL in xcp-ng.repo:

            [xcp-ng-tescande]
            name=XCP-ng 8.3 tescande User Repository
            baseurl=https://koji.xcp-ng.org/repos/user/8/8.3/tescande2/x86_64/
            enabled=0
            gpgcheck=0
            priority=1
            
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              ThierryEscande Vates πŸͺ XCP-ng Team
              last edited by

              And for those on XCP-ng 8.3, it might be worth giving a try to Xen 4.17. You'll find all the necessary information on how to upgrade in the thread Xen 4.17 on XCP-ng 8.3.

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                LennertvdBerg @ThierryEscande
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                @ThierryEscande I'm experiencing difficulties with installing the kernel-alt package on my system. Currently, I am using XCP-ng version 8.3.0-beta2. It appears that there might be a problem with updategrub.py. Any guidance on how to resolve this would be greatly appreciated.

                I've update xcp-ng.repo and this is my output of yum --enablerepo=xcp-ng-tescande install kernel-alt:

                [20:12 xcp-ng-test1 ~]# yum --enablerepo=xcp-ng-tescande install kernel-alt
                Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
                Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
                Excluding mirror: updates.xcp-ng.org
                 * xcp-ng-base: mirrors.xcp-ng.org
                Excluding mirror: updates.xcp-ng.org
                 * xcp-ng-updates: mirrors.xcp-ng.org
                Resolving Dependencies
                --> Running transaction check
                ---> Package kernel-alt.x86_64 0:4.19.309-1.0.lenovotest.2.xcpng8.3 will be installed
                --> Finished Dependency Resolution
                
                Dependencies Resolved
                
                ===========================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================
                 Package                                                       Arch                                                      Version                                                                                  Repository                                                          Size
                ===========================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================
                Installing:
                 kernel-alt                                                    x86_64                                                    4.19.309-1.0.lenovotest.2.xcpng8.3                                                       xcp-ng-tescande                                                     30 M
                
                Transaction Summary
                ===========================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================
                Install  1 Package
                
                Total download size: 30 M
                Installed size: 154 M
                Is this ok [y/d/N]: y
                Downloading packages:
                kernel-alt-4.19.309-1.0.lenovotest.2.xcpng8.3.x86_64.rpm                                                                                                                                                                                                            |  30 MB  00:00:01     
                Running transaction check
                Running transaction test
                Transaction test succeeded
                Running transaction
                  Installing : kernel-alt-4.19.309-1.0.lenovotest.2.xcpng8.3.x86_64                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1/1 
                /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.l9rbzO: line 9: /opt/xensource/bin/updategrub.py: No such file or directory
                warning: %post(kernel-alt-4.19.309-1.0.lenovotest.2.xcpng8.3.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit status 127
                Non-fatal POSTIN scriptlet failure in rpm package kernel-alt-4.19.309-1.0.lenovotest.2.xcpng8.3.x86_64
                  Verifying  : kernel-alt-4.19.309-1.0.lenovotest.2.xcpng8.3.x86_64                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1/1 
                
                Installed:
                  kernel-alt.x86_64 0:4.19.309-1.0.lenovotest.2.xcpng8.3                    
                
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                  LennertvdBerg @ThierryEscande
                  last edited by

                  @ThierryEscande I've updated to Xen 4.17 and it seems the upgrade went fine:

                  host                   : xcp-ng-test1
                  release                : 4.19.0+1
                  version                : #1 SMP Wed Jan 24 17:19:11 CET 2024
                  machine                : x86_64
                  nr_cpus                : 64
                  max_cpu_id             : 63
                  nr_nodes               : 1
                  cores_per_socket       : 32
                  threads_per_core       : 2
                  cpu_mhz                : 3245.126
                  hw_caps                : 178bf3ff:7efa320b:2e500800:244037ff:0000000f:f1bf97a9:00405fce:00000780
                  virt_caps              : pv hvm hvm_directio pv_directio hap gnttab-v1 gnttab-v2
                  total_memory           : 130850
                  free_memory            : 121721
                  sharing_freed_memory   : 0
                  sharing_used_memory    : 0
                  outstanding_claims     : 0
                  free_cpus              : 0
                  xen_major              : 4
                  xen_minor              : 17
                  xen_extra              : .3-3
                  xen_version            : 4.17.3-3
                  xen_caps               : xen-3.0-x86_64 hvm-3.0-x86_32 hvm-3.0-x86_32p hvm-3.0-x86_64 
                  xen_scheduler          : credit
                  xen_pagesize           : 4096
                  platform_params        : virt_start=0xffff800000000000
                  xen_changeset          : $Format:%H$, pq ???
                  xen_commandline        : dom0_mem=7568M,max:7568M watchdog ucode=scan dom0_max_vcpus=1-16 crashkernel=256M,below=4G console=vga vga=mode-0x0311
                  cc_compiler            : gcc (GCC) 11.2.1 20210728 (Red Hat 11.2.1-1)
                  cc_compile_by          : mockbuild
                  cc_compile_domain      : [unknown]
                  cc_compile_date        : Wed Feb 28 10:12:19 CET 2024
                  build_id               : 9a011a28e29a21a7643376b36aec959253587d42
                  xend_config_format     : 4
                  

                  However, the issues with the fan speeds and missing memory temperature readings still persist. πŸ˜•

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                  • RIX_ITR Offline
                    RIX_IT @ThierryEscande
                    last edited by

                    @ThierryEscande
                    Of course. See the attached files:

                    dmseg.txt
                    xl_dmseg.txt

                    What I also did notice was that networking isn't working at all with the 4.19.309 kernel. Settings were the same as before and I couldn't even ping the gateway. I tried an emergency reset and reconfiguring, but still no luck. Upon booting with the stable kernel, it worked again as expected. But that's an issue for another day, I guess.

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                      Riven
                      last edited by Riven

                      I have recently purchased four SR635v3 servers with AMD EPYC 9354P cpu.

                      I managed to get some info from Lenovo about how to manually change the fan speeds.

                      How to get the existing fan speeds. If this fails, check IPMI settings in the BMC.

                      [09:10 xcp01 ~]# ipmitool sdr list | grep -i fan
                      Fan Mismatch     | 0x00              | ok
                      Fan 1 Front Tach | 19072 RPM         | ok
                      Fan 2 Front Tach | 19072 RPM         | ok
                      Fan 3 Front Tach | 18944 RPM         | ok
                      Fan 4 Front Tach | 19072 RPM         | ok
                      Fan 5 Front Tach | 18944 RPM         | ok
                      Fan 6 Front Tach | 19072 RPM         | ok
                      Fan 7 Front Tach | 0 RPM             | ok
                      Fan 1 Rear Tach  | 15768 RPM         | ok
                      Fan 2 Rear Tach  | 15768 RPM         | ok
                      Fan 3 Rear Tach  | 15876 RPM         | ok
                      Fan 4 Rear Tach  | 15876 RPM         | ok
                      Fan 5 Rear Tach  | 15768 RPM         | ok
                      Fan 6 Rear Tach  | 15768 RPM         | ok
                      Fan 7 Rear Tach  | 0 RPM             | ok
                      Sys Fan Pwr      | 48 Watts          | ok
                      

                      To change the fans to a fixed percentage - note the decimal "35" this is the percentage of maximum fan speed to set to.

                      ipmitool raw 0x3a 0x07 0xff 35 0x01
                      

                      After a short while for the fans to spin down.

                      Fan Mismatch     | 0x00              | ok
                      Fan 1 Front Tach | 12288 RPM         | ok
                      Fan 2 Front Tach | 12160 RPM         | ok
                      Fan 3 Front Tach | 12160 RPM         | ok
                      Fan 4 Front Tach | 12288 RPM         | ok
                      Fan 5 Front Tach | 12160 RPM         | ok
                      Fan 6 Front Tach | 12288 RPM         | ok
                      Fan 7 Front Tach | 0 RPM             | ok
                      Fan 1 Rear Tach  | 10152 RPM         | ok
                      Fan 2 Rear Tach  | 10152 RPM         | ok
                      Fan 3 Rear Tach  | 10260 RPM         | ok
                      Fan 4 Rear Tach  | 10152 RPM         | ok
                      Fan 5 Rear Tach  | 10260 RPM         | ok
                      Fan 6 Rear Tach  | 10152 RPM         | ok
                      Fan 7 Rear Tach  | 0 RPM             | ok
                      Sys Fan Pwr      | 15 Watts          | ok
                      

                      To revert to auto-fan control you either need to restart the BMC/XCC controller which isn't system impacting.

                      Please keep in mind this was stressed to me that its NOT SUPPORTED/RECOMMENDED - and could cause thermal damage to internal components!!

                      We only have the M.2 mirror kit with two small disks, no other raid cards or internal disks.
                      If you have RAID and internal disks you might want to fix your fans to a higher speed.

                      Someone with scripting knowledge could also monitor a few temps and adjust the IPMI fan control accordingly.
                      This could even be managed externally via IPMI over LAN for multiple servers.

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                        Riven @Riven
                        last edited by

                        Forgot to mention - I pointed Lenovo at this thread, but got the usual "OS isn't supported, find an alternative"

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                          olivierlambert Vates πŸͺ Co-Founder CEO
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                          Well, it would be more productive if they could only tell which component and version is needed to correctly handle their own fans…

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                            LennertvdBerg @olivierlambert
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                            @olivierlambert would there be a way after GRUB to walk step by step through the boot and see where it goes wrong?

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                              rmaclachlan
                              last edited by

                              I had some time to test today so I upgraded the FW on a server, disabled IPMI as suggested above in the kernel and the fans remained spun up.

                              I disabled ACPI in grub (acpi=off) and the fans didn't spin up but then dom0 failed to fully load so that isn't great lol

                              Is it just a matter of the ACPI kernel driver being outdated? I'm not sure how to check that

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                                ThierryEscande Vates πŸͺ XCP-ng Team @rmaclachlan
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                                @rmaclachlan If it's an ACPI issue and since Lenovo doesn't seem to be very cooperative, one could try to downgrade the firmware to a working version (i.e. one that runs fans at normal speed) and dump the ACPI table. Then upgrade to the latest firmware, dump the ACPI tables again, and then compare them.

                                I don't know ACPI much but I can have a look if you can share them.

                                The ACPI tools should be already installed on any XCP-ng host.

                                • Dump the ACPI tables in binary format
                                  Do so in an empty folder as this produces numerous files
                                # acpidump -b
                                
                                • Decompile the dsdt.dat file
                                # iasl -e ssdt*.dat -d dsdt.dat
                                
                                • Do the same operations for both firmwares and share the dsdt.dsl files.
                                  The files are pretty big so don't hesitate to compress them before sharing.
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                                  rmaclachlan @ThierryEscande
                                  last edited by

                                  Thanks having a look! I've dumped the ACPI before and after firmware updates and linked them below for you.

                                  New FW

                                  Old FW

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                                    ThierryEscande Vates πŸͺ XCP-ng Team @rmaclachlan
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                                    @rmaclachlan Thanks for the files. Did not see anything obvious at first sight.

                                    I forgot to ask you for ssdt files too. Would it be possible to do the same with these files ?

                                    iasl -d ssdt*.dat
                                    

                                    (I hope you kept the old firmware ones somewhere, otherwise don't bother to downgrade again. Just share the new firmware ssdt files)

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                                      rmaclachlan @ThierryEscande
                                      last edited by

                                      @ThierryEscande I kept all the files from the acpidump from both new and old fw. I've ran that on both sets of acpi dumps which produced quite a few dsl files (one per ssdt) so I've just zipped both folders for you here:

                                      ACPI-Lenovo.zip

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                                        ThierryEscande Vates πŸͺ XCP-ng Team @rmaclachlan
                                        last edited by ThierryEscande

                                        @rmaclachlan Thanks a lot. Unfortunately I did not find any evidence of what could be wrong from the ACPI tables.

                                        It obviously does not come from the IPMI devices as there is no modification in this area.

                                        So without help from Lenovo it will be difficult for us to go further. If you manage to get Lenovo involved one way or another we will be happy to collaborate and help.

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                                          LennertvdBerg @ThierryEscande
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                                          @ThierryEscande Has anyone made any progress on this? @Riven you got contact details at Lenovo for contacting regarding this?

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                                            ThierryEscande Vates πŸͺ XCP-ng Team @LennertvdBerg
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                                            @LennertvdBerg no update on that, sorry. As said before, it will be hard to tell what's going on without feedback from Lenovo.

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