Roadmap XO6
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Hi!
I am really looking forward to see XO6 because of it's "task-system" to be able to see a history about what did run on XCP-ng.
The last post I found about the roadmap is this one:
https://xen-orchestra.com/blog/devblog-3-working-on-xo-6/Do you have any newer schedule on how you think, you are ready to publish XO6?
Thank you and best wishes
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There's no public roadmap so far for XO 6. But work started on the "server" part since a while, see:
https://xen-orchestra.com/blog/xo-6-whats-on-the-horizon/
Or in our XO release blog posts, there's often new on XO 6 status:
https://xen-orchestra.com/blog/xen-orchestra-5-78/#
-xo-tasks-a-work-in-progressOn the "front" part, we are also doing progress since XO Lite components will be likely reused in XO 6. Some news will come in the next releases about the new web UI.
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@olivierlambert XO 6, you guys have been working on it for years. Do you have an estimate on when that will move into Tech Preview? Thanks!
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We've redone the basics multiple times to find the best solution. Next release (XO 5.95) will give access to the first screens.
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@olivierlambert I'm looking forward to seeing that.
You, Vates, your team, and way you guys are handling things are the reason I want to move over to xcp-ng. Waiting for XO 6 and maybe Veeam or will consult with your team on some backup solutions. Cheers!!
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Xen Orchestra is probably the right option
(it's pretty mature in terms of backup capabilities now). You can even use both VEEAM and XO at the same time to cover your app aware backup combined with XO VM backup capabilities) -
@olivierlambert You know people want host level backup via Veeam.. if your backup was application aware, exchange, sql, etc.. we wouldn't care so much about Veeam. You already know that backup is whats holding people back.
Virtual Disk size limits? I think you guys are about to improve that?
I am also holding out for your new interface, XO as it is right now .. painful to get between VMs, the networking is hard to manage. Moving from screen to screen to adjust settings across a wide range of VMs is painful and slow. Everything should be in its own place, shouldn't have to dig here and dig there. But you know all this already and thats why you are making a new interface.
We are testing both Proxmox and xcp-ng. From and end user, you guys can learn from each other. Proxmox isn't perfect but at least I can adjust settings across a wide range of VMs and the hosts with fewer clicks and more visibility.
Rooting for you guys!!
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I think, application aware backups are overrated. A simple pre-snap-script by the tools should be sufficient in most cases.
I am looking forward to see XO6 and hope to see
- a real backup task management, where I can see progress bars for the whole process including merge, etc
- a better UI with a fully working console, easier migration for VMs (drag&drop), that make me start not to miss XCP-center
ApplicationAware backups are IMHO only important for:
- Active Directory -> Microsoft always recommends to use Windows Backup
- Database -> consistency could be guaranteed by a small “sync”-script
—> the database backup and restore features of e.g Veeam are looking great from the white papers, but did never help me
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@KPS Thank you for your reply.
I am backing up all windows servers, AD, Exchange, SQL and so it's not overrated for me. And these "easy" scripts are not in everyone's wheelhouse.
With that said, I am pretty sure Vates will help me with those scripts as their team has been awesome to engage with.
However, jumping over from Hyper-V with Veeam after 10 years and a few DR events.. I need to know I can do the same with xcp-ng and ?? Backup solution. Obviously having Veeam doing host level backups that are application aware would make things really easy.
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@adresner CommVault has it all with Xen and is priced like Veeam. We use it with VM Level, AppAware or with a combination of VM and Full Agents.
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Our doc is up to date here: https://docs.xcp-ng.org/project/ecosystem/#-vm-backup
