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    Minisforum MS-01 unstable and hangs running Xcp-ng 8.3

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      manilx @imaginapix
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      @imaginapix True BUT this doesn't help if you pick the higher end one, which you would for running a hypervisor.
      AND their stance on this is well: you're on your own. See my other post.

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        manilx @steff22
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        @steff22 You should. It's been very popular on Youtube (most getting their units for free for promotion) BUT nobody speeks of this (to my knowledge).
        I had nothing but trouble with it.

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          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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          Speaking of Protectli, good news coming in the next months 😉 Stay tuned.

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            manilx @olivierlambert
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            @olivierlambert NICE!

            Can only speak VERY positive on them!!!!

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              iLix
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              E+P cores are not support in the kernel, have you tried running with only E or P cores enabled?

              My 13 Gen MS-01’s with Intel microcode installed work great with Proxmox. Running xcp-ng on D-1541’s still, so all good there 🙂

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                manilx @iLix
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                @iLix Good for you. Other's may vary as we have seen.....

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                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                  Well, at my surprise, XCP-ng works with P/E cores (even if it's more by luck than by design). I'll run extensive tests with a Protectli unit I just received 👼

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                    steff22 @iLix
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                    @iLix No, have not tried with only E or P cores.

                    But I thought I had triggered an error when I tried to test the cpu by assigning all 20 cores to 1 windows vm and running the cpu test test program for 15 min with 100% cpu usage. This did not cause any problems. also no problems with it getting too high a temperature.

                    So it is a bit strange that this error occurs when ms 01 is almost idle, the vms that are running use very little cpu. is at 0% to 4% cpu use on the xcp-ng host mostly all day

                    Have installed the latest bios but have not done anything with the Intel microcode.
                    How do I see which version of Intel microcode I have and how do I update this?

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                      steff22 @olivierlambert
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                      @olivierlambert But am I right about the backup that I can't trust them?
                      I must have held the power button in to force reboot opposite 5 times now I think. But notice no errors on xcp-ng or other vms that are running, everything just starts working again after a reboot.

                      How much can Xcp-ng 8.3 withstand this extreme treatment before I should fear corrupt system files on Xcp-ng itself?

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                      • olivierlambertO Offline
                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                        last edited by olivierlambert

                        Just received it for testing purpose 👼

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                          manilx @olivierlambert
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                          @olivierlambert Running also on a VP6670 with 64GB RAM (which seems is what you got). So anything you want me to test, fire away 😉

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                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                            I wonder about the power draw difference with and without the P cores (leaving only the E cores).

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                              iLix @olivierlambert
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                              That is great to hear that E/P-cores are working. I now have a migration project on my hands 🙂

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                                iLix @steff22
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                                @steff22 You should not need the microcode if xcp-ng works out of the box with hybrid CPU's.

                                When you force the power off, are the VM's reset time the same as for the host? Example: Does the kernel-power off event correspond with your hosts hard reboot, if you have Windows VM's running?

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                                  steff22 @iLix
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                                  @iLix don't know how to check the last activity log in the xcp-ng host before the ms-01 crashes.

                                  But according to the smart house log on windows vm, the crash time was 2 hours before I forced the power off. So expect this time to be the same on all running vms and the xcp-ng host itself.

                                  windows vm has lost direct contact with the m.2 storage at this point and cannot write more in the log. so to me it seems like the whole ms-01 freezes and crashes.

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                                    iLix @steff22
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                                    @steff22 Mine "crashed" before i added this to the grub.cfg "pcie_port_pm=off pcie_aspm.policy=performance" (Proxmox)
                                    The Windows event log would state kernel-power error matching the same time as the forced reset, so the VM's are still running while in this state.
                                    This happened while idle, I would see a lot of cluster sync errors, as if they lost connection to the network (Using the 2.5 NIC's)

                                    Maybe in the same realm as this issue:
                                    https://xcp-ng.org/forum/topic/8092/add-kernel-boot-params-for-dom0

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                                      steff22 @iLix
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                                      @iLix okay
                                      is different With me, I have nothing in the windows event log since the whole ms-01 crashes, no writing to m.2 strorage from vms either. then it's the same as just pulling out the power cable when it crashes. so this indicates a cpu error or motherboard if I'm not mistaken.

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                                        imaginapix @steff22
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                                        @steff22

                                        Yes, that sounds like generally faulty unit not only the CPU related stuff.

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                                          wilsonqanda @olivierlambert
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                                          @olivierlambert Wow really nice unit makes me want to jump on those lighter fanless unit as i have lots of those 1L unit that works perfectly but has a small fans that i can hear if i really focus. I just like fanless unit to avoid dust getting in lol. 🙂

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