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      irtaza9
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      xcp-ng is a distribution which runs on a bare-metal and allow us to perform virtualization. I want to know more about hosts, pools. What is the difference between these two concepts. Also what is cluster and What about HA? Where does the HA happen? b/w pools or b/w hosts?

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        DustinB @irtaza9
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        @irtaza9 said in Hosts vs. Pools - Information Required:

        xcp-ng is a distribution which runs on a bare-metal and allow us to perform virtualization. I want to know more about hosts, pools. What is the difference between these two concepts. Also what is cluster and What about HA? Where does the HA happen? b/w pools or b/w hosts?

        A single host, is a pool of 1 host. A pool can contain multiple hosts so that VMs can be live migrated from host to host (best performance with shared storage for your VMs).

        HA can be achieved through a variety of options, using XOStore from the Vates team for a licensing fee. Is one such solution, but this is Sharing your Storage.

        HA doesn't mandate HA Storage or Shared Storage, but it definitely helps.

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          cciecanuck @irtaza9
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          @irtaza9 said in Hosts vs. Pools - Information Required:

          xcp-ng is a distribution which runs on a bare-metal and allow us to perform virtualization. I want to know more about hosts, pools. What is the difference between these two concepts. Also what is cluster and What about HA? Where does the HA happen? b/w pools or b/w hosts?

          By default, when you start up XO and add your first host, that host will join a pool ( albeit the same name as the HOST you just added). You can then add more hosts to the pool to provide more redundancy or compute power.

          I run a setup where different departments run different pools. I suggest taking a boo at this article as it outlines HA very clearly. One downside of HA is when you need to do an upgrade to your pool, it can be a bit of pain.

          https://xcp-ng.org/blog/2024/08/22/xcp-ng-high-availability-a-guide/

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            irtaza9 @DustinB
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            @DustinB If I add 20 hosts to a pool and create a VM in that pool, will it automatically pick the host that has sufficient resources available, such as CPU and RAM?

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              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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              Yes.

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                irtaza9 @olivierlambert
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                @olivierlambert as shared earlier by @julien-f on this thread that we can only create vm on pool level and @olivierlambert said XO will automatically pick the host which has sufficient resources available for that vm. Can we manually pick the host in the pool to deploy a vm?

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                  cciecanuck @irtaza9
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                  @irtaza9 - you can set an affinity for a host, so that when a VM is created your VM will always try and be housed on a particular host.

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                    DustinB @irtaza9
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                    @irtaza9 You can opt to have a VM have a preferred Host Affinity, which basically means "Run here if possible" using the advanced settings while creating a VM or the Advanced settings once the VM has been created.

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                      DustinB @DustinB
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                      Passing a PCI GPU or a USB device to a given VM basically forces this, since these cards are Host Specific and are unable to be shared across hosts in the same pool.

                      IIRC that is..

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                        irtaza9 @DustinB
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                        @DustinB @cciecanuck Thank you.

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                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                          I think all the answers given here are providing all the info you need, right? 🙂

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                            irtaza9 @olivierlambert
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                            @olivierlambert Yes, Vates is on another level of professionalism. Wow 👥

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                              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                              Happy to help!

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