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    delta backups with offline snapshot: VMs do not start after snapshot, they start after transfer is done.

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      k11maris @Bastien Nollet
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      @Bastien-Nollet Hi, there is another issue: When I switch back from "delta backup" to "disaster recovery" or "Backup", the checkbox for "offline backup" and the drop down menu "offline" is greyed out so that it cannot be changed.

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        Bastien Nollet Vates 🪐 XO Team @k11maris
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        Hi @k11maris,

        You can either specify the snapshot mode or check the "Offline backup" option.

        It's a bit counter-intuitive, but to uncheck it, you can set "Snapshot mode" to "Normal", and you should be able to modify it. (then you can put back the snapshot mode to offline)

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          k11maris @Bastien Nollet
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          @Bastien-Nollet I can't change those options, both are greyed out (locked / disabled).
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            k11maris @k11maris
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            With new created backup jobs, everything works. Clearly there are some hickups in the GUI when switching between backup modes. Not sure if it is worth fixing with XO6 coming up, though.

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              Pilow @k11maris
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              @k11maris yeah but with new jobs, you enter a new Backup Chain ?

              would be nice to keep those existing (imagine if you have LTR to re-backup)

              I don't know a veeam way to "map backup" to get the chain continuity in XO Backup.

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                k11maris @Pilow
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                @Pilow Yes of course. But I don't really care about keeping the backup chain. I am just getting started with my backups 🙂

                In fact, the snapshots for deltas take too much space on my storage, so I divided the VMs into 2 groups. One with daily delta backups and one with weekly offline full backups which don't need snapshots.

                I think there is a way with changed block tracking to use delta backups without snapshots, right? I'll have to look into that.

                I'd also like to mirror the VMs to the local storage of a server outside of the pool. This goes to another building, for emergencies. This would also be a combination of weekly full offline backups and daily delta backups. The latter would again require snapshots and it seems it would create 2 snapshots per VM, then. One for the backup job and one for the mirror job.

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                  Pilow @k11maris
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                  @k11maris said in delta backups with offline snapshot: VMs do not start after snapshot, they start after transfer is done.:

                  I think there is a way with changed block tracking to use delta backups without snapshots, right? I'll have to look into that.

                  ypu need to check those
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                  and yes a VM that is BACKUPed and REPLICAted have 2 snaps.
                  didn't see a snapshot for Disaster Recovery job though (seems to be snaped, but deleted afterward as there is no need to delta on the next snap), you could use these, but full only and one temporary snapshot during the DR export.

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                    Bastien Nollet Vates 🪐 XO Team @k11maris
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                    Hi @k11maris,

                    I think the situation you showed in your screenshot where both options are selected but are both greyed out should not happen.

                    We will try to reproduce it on our side and fix it.

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                      Bastien Nollet Vates 🪐 XO Team
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                      We just merged a PR that changes the UI to allow offline backups for delta backups, disaster recovery and continuous replication: https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/pull/9228

                      Now, if your delta backup makes offline backups, you can disable that without having to change the backup type.

                      b-Nollet opened this pull request in vatesfr/xen-orchestra

                      closed fix(xo-web): allow offline delta backups #9228

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                        k11maris @Bastien Nollet
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                        @Bastien-Nollet Great, thanks!

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