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    Just FYI: current update seams to break NUT dependancies

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      bogikornel @FritzGerald
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      @FritzGerald workaround

      yum update --exclude=net-snmp*
      
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        FritzGerald @bogikornel
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        @bogikornel said:

        yum update --exclude=net-snmp*

        You made my day. Works fine and I have learned something new. Thank you for your quick help!

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          Kajetan321
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          I'm having the same problem. I could never get NUT to work properly anyways. What's the best way to uinstal it?

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            Kajetan321 @Kajetan321
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            It looks like "yum remove nut" does the trick.

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              rzr Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @Kajetan321
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              @Kajetan321 said:

              It looks like "yum remove nut" does the trick.

              Yes this "extra" tool was not (never?) supported ,

              If you really need it, there are 2 options to consider:

              • 1st is convince us to add it to the distro
              • 2d rebuild it yourself (to link with updated dep, and also rebuild its deps like neon)
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                stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @bogikornel
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                @bogikornel said:

                @FritzGerald workaround

                yum update --exclude=net-snmp*
                

                This is dangerous.

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                  FritzGerald @rzr
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                  @rzr
                  Hi, thank you for having a look.

                  Regarding point 1.)
                  As it was written by Olivier Lambert in post https://xcp-ng.org/forum/topic/10250/what-os-is-xcp-ng-8-3-based-on/8?_=1773671654080 I understand that your focus is on datacenter usage. Nevertheless I still think - and in other posts users mention it as well - there are quite a lot small non-datacenter - installations in place that use xcp-ng in small office structures using and needing an USV, since it simply essential. I love using XCP-NG and believe it would be a goodie that would make a lot small open source supporters like me very happy.

                  Regarding point 2.)
                  I am always careful when interfering with "mighty" tools like hypervisors. My experience is that my knowledge is unfortunately to small to see all caveats.

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                    FritzGerald @stormi
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                      FritzGerald @stormi
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                      @stormi said:

                      @bogikornel said:

                      @FritzGerald workaround

                      yum update --exclude=net-snmp*
                      

                      This is dangerous.

                      @stormi Do you see any immediate threat? I am asking since it is working so far for me

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                        ph7
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                        You can install nut on a separate (small) machine and let it ssh to Your master and run a shutdown script.
                        That's how I do it since a while back when the NUT-package was temporarily removed from the extra repo

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                          DustinB @rzr
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                          @rzr said:

                          Yes this "extra" tool was not (never?) supported ,

                          NUT has never been supported in XCP-ng, it has been asked about for a long time though and a lot of people handle XCP-ng not as an appliance but as any other Server/Desktop system and install packages because they aren't blocked from doing so

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                            JeffBerntsen Top contributor @rzr
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                            @rzr @stormi @olivierlambert Please consider this such a request. NUT's functionality at the small system/appliance level (i.e. not datacenter) of use is too useful to ignore but not enough to build a dedicated VM for on systems/appliances with limited resources.

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                              okynnor @JeffBerntsen
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                              I second this request.

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                                DustinB @okynnor
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                                https://xcp-ng.org/forum/topic/11967/gracefull-shutdown-of-host-when-ups-battery-runs-low

                                Not a great response, if this is really a need paying customers should go and put a request in on the ticketing side.

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                                  fbellosoa
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                                  In case my experience can help with this problem:

                                  The package causing compatibility issues is nut, but nut-client works and allows the xcp-ng hosts update.

                                  I installed nut-client and defined the pool hosts as clients, with my nut server on a Truenas server.

                                  This installation is working and has allowed me to continue using nut on my hosts.

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                                    rzr Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
                                    last edited by rzr

                                    Hi, I had a look at it and may have something to be tested soon (TBC https://github.com/xcp-ng-rpms/nut/pull/1 )

                                    Is any of you volunteering for testing an extra (unsupported?) package ?
                                    Or if the client is enough maybe we can put this on hold unless there is more traction?

                                    Reminder: https://docs.xcp-ng.org/management/additional-packages/

                                    rzr opened this pull request in xcp-ng-rpms/nut

                                    closed Import nut-2.8.0 Rebuild with updated OpenSSL 3 #1

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                                      FritzGerald @rzr
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                                      @rzr Hi. Thank you very much. I will be setting up a new server within the next 2 weeks and will definitely test it. Then I will give you feedback! Thank you again for picking it up!

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                                        FritzGerald
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                                        Hello, sorry for not getting back earlier. I had some "other" unexpected trouble-shooting project.

                                        Since I have never installed this type of "dev" package, I just wanted to let others know how to install (please to so on a testing server). Besides that, just run:

                                        yum install nut --enablerepo=xcp-ng-ci
                                        

                                        That's it. At least installation on my newly setup and completely patched test "XCP-ng 8.3" server worked like a charme:

                                        [22:41 xcp-test ~]# yum install nut --enablerepo=xcp-ng-ci
                                        Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
                                        Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
                                        Excluding mirror: updates.xcp-ng.org
                                         * xcp-ng-base: mirrors.xcp-ng.org
                                        Excluding mirror: updates.xcp-ng.org
                                         * xcp-ng-ci: mirrors.xcp-ng.org
                                        Excluding mirror: updates.xcp-ng.org
                                         * xcp-ng-updates: mirrors.xcp-ng.org
                                        xcp-ng-base/signature                                                                                                                                                                        |  473 B  00:00:00
                                        xcp-ng-base/signature                                                                                                                                                                        | 3.0 kB  00:00:00 !!!
                                        xcp-ng-ci/signature                                                                                                                                                                          |  473 B  00:00:00
                                        xcp-ng-ci/signature                                                                                                                                                                          | 3.0 kB  00:00:00 !!!
                                        xcp-ng-updates/signature                                                                                                                                                                     |  473 B  00:00:00
                                        xcp-ng-updates/signature                                                                                                                                                                     | 3.0 kB  00:00:00 !!!
                                        xcp-ng-ci/primary_db                                                                                                                                                                         | 168 kB  00:00:00
                                        Resolving Dependencies
                                        --> Running transaction check
                                        ---> Package nut.x86_64 0:2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3 will be installed
                                        --> Processing Dependency: libfreeipmi.so.17()(64bit) for package: nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64
                                        --> Processing Dependency: libipmimonitoring.so.6()(64bit) for package: nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64
                                        --> Processing Dependency: libltdl.so.7()(64bit) for package: nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64
                                        --> Processing Dependency: libupsclient.so.6()(64bit) for package: nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64
                                        --> Processing Dependency: libusb-0.1.so.4()(64bit) for package: nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64
                                        --> Running transaction check
                                        ---> Package freeipmi.x86_64 0:1.5.7-2.el7 will be installed
                                        ---> Package libtool-ltdl.x86_64 0:2.4.2-22.el7_3 will be installed
                                        ---> Package libusb.x86_64 1:0.1.4-3.el7 will be installed
                                        ---> Package nut-client.x86_64 0:2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3 will be installed
                                        --> Finished Dependency Resolution
                                        
                                        Dependencies Resolved
                                        
                                        ====================================================================================================================================================================================================================
                                         Package                                            Arch                                         Version                                                    Repository                                         Size
                                        ====================================================================================================================================================================================================================
                                        Installing:
                                         nut                                                x86_64                                       2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3                                         xcp-ng-ci                                         2.2 M
                                        Installing for dependencies:
                                         freeipmi                                           x86_64                                       1.5.7-2.el7                                                xcp-ng-base                                       2.0 M
                                         libtool-ltdl                                       x86_64                                       2.4.2-22.el7_3                                             xcp-ng-base                                        48 k
                                         libusb                                             x86_64                                       1:0.1.4-3.el7                                              xcp-ng-base                                        19 k
                                         nut-client                                         x86_64                                       2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3                                         xcp-ng-ci                                         203 k
                                        
                                        Transaction Summary
                                        ====================================================================================================================================================================================================================
                                        Install  1 Package (+4 Dependent packages)
                                        
                                        Total download size: 4.5 M
                                        Installed size: 20 M
                                        Is this ok [y/d/N]: y
                                        Downloading packages:
                                        (1/5): libtool-ltdl-2.4.2-22.el7_3.x86_64.rpm                                                                                                                                                |  48 kB  00:00:00
                                        (2/5): freeipmi-1.5.7-2.el7.x86_64.rpm                                                                                                                                                       | 2.0 MB  00:00:01
                                        (3/5): libusb-0.1.4-3.el7.x86_64.rpm                                                                                                                                                         |  19 kB  00:00:00
                                        (4/5): nut-client-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64.rpm                                                                                                                                              | 203 kB  00:00:00
                                        (5/5): nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64.rpm                                                                                                                                                     | 2.2 MB  00:00:01
                                        --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                        Total                                                                                                                                                                               1.7 MB/s | 4.5 MB  00:00:02
                                        Running transaction check
                                        Running transaction test
                                        Transaction test succeeded
                                        Running transaction
                                          Installing : nut-client-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64                                                                                                                                                             1/5
                                          Installing : freeipmi-1.5.7-2.el7.x86_64                                                                                                                                                                      2/5
                                          Installing : libtool-ltdl-2.4.2-22.el7_3.x86_64                                                                                                                                                               3/5
                                          Installing : 1:libusb-0.1.4-3.el7.x86_64                                                                                                                                                                      4/5
                                          Installing : nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64                                                                                                                                                                    5/5
                                          Verifying  : nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64                                                                                                                                                                    1/5
                                          Verifying  : 1:libusb-0.1.4-3.el7.x86_64                                                                                                                                                                      2/5
                                          Verifying  : libtool-ltdl-2.4.2-22.el7_3.x86_64                                                                                                                                                               3/5
                                          Verifying  : freeipmi-1.5.7-2.el7.x86_64                                                                                                                                                                      4/5
                                          Verifying  : nut-client-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64                                                                                                                                                             5/5
                                        
                                        Installed:
                                          nut.x86_64 0:2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3
                                        
                                        Dependency Installed:
                                          freeipmi.x86_64 0:1.5.7-2.el7                    libtool-ltdl.x86_64 0:2.4.2-22.el7_3                    libusb.x86_64 1:0.1.4-3.el7                    nut-client.x86_64 0:2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3
                                        
                                        Complete!
                                        

                                        I will let you know once I got some impressions.

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