Just FYI: current update seams to break NUT dependancies
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I'm having the same problem. I could never get NUT to work properly anyways. What's the best way to uinstal it?
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It looks like "yum remove nut" does the trick.
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P ph7 referenced this topic on
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It looks like "yum remove nut" does the trick.
Yes this "extra" tool was not (never?) supported ,
If you really need it, there are 2 options to consider:
- 1st is convince us to add it to the distro
- 2d rebuild it yourself (to link with updated dep, and also rebuild its deps like neon)
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@FritzGerald workaround
yum update --exclude=net-snmp*This is dangerous.
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@rzr
Hi, thank you for having a look.Regarding point 1.)
As it was written by Olivier Lambert in post https://xcp-ng.org/forum/topic/10250/what-os-is-xcp-ng-8-3-based-on/8?_=1773671654080 I understand that your focus is on datacenter usage. Nevertheless I still think - and in other posts users mention it as well - there are quite a lot small non-datacenter - installations in place that use xcp-ng in small office structures using and needing an USV, since it simply essential. I love using XCP-NG and believe it would be a goodie that would make a lot small open source supporters like me very happy.Regarding point 2.)
I am always careful when interfering with "mighty" tools like hypervisors. My experience is that my knowledge is unfortunately to small to see all caveats. -
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@FritzGerald workaround
yum update --exclude=net-snmp*This is dangerous.
@stormi Do you see any immediate threat? I am asking since it is working so far for me
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You can install nut on a separate (small) machine and let it
sshto Your master and run a shutdown script.
That's how I do it since a while back when the NUT-package was temporarily removed from the extra repo -
Yes this "extra" tool was not (never?) supported ,
NUT has never been supported in XCP-ng, it has been asked about for a long time though and a lot of people handle XCP-ng not as an appliance but as any other Server/Desktop system and install packages because they aren't blocked from doing so
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@rzr @stormi @olivierlambert Please consider this such a request. NUT's functionality at the small system/appliance level (i.e. not datacenter) of use is too useful to ignore but not enough to build a dedicated VM for on systems/appliances with limited resources.
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I second this request.
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https://xcp-ng.org/forum/topic/11967/gracefull-shutdown-of-host-when-ups-battery-runs-low
Not a great response, if this is really a need paying customers should go and put a request in on the ticketing side.
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In case my experience can help with this problem:
The package causing compatibility issues is nut, but nut-client works and allows the xcp-ng hosts update.
I installed nut-client and defined the pool hosts as clients, with my nut server on a Truenas server.
This installation is working and has allowed me to continue using nut on my hosts.
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Hi, I had a look at it and may have something to be tested soon (TBC https://github.com/xcp-ng-rpms/nut/pull/1 )
Is any of you volunteering for testing an extra (unsupported?) package ?
Or if the client is enough maybe we can put this on hold unless there is more traction?Reminder: https://docs.xcp-ng.org/management/additional-packages/
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@rzr Hi. Thank you very much. I will be setting up a new server within the next 2 weeks and will definitely test it. Then I will give you feedback! Thank you again for picking it up!
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Hello, sorry for not getting back earlier. I had some "other" unexpected trouble-shooting project.
Since I have never installed this type of "dev" package, I just wanted to let others know how to install (please to so on a testing server). Besides that, just run:
yum install nut --enablerepo=xcp-ng-ciThat's it. At least installation on my newly setup and completely patched test "XCP-ng 8.3" server worked like a charme:
[22:41 xcp-test ~]# yum install nut --enablerepo=xcp-ng-ci Loaded plugins: fastestmirror Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile Excluding mirror: updates.xcp-ng.org * xcp-ng-base: mirrors.xcp-ng.org Excluding mirror: updates.xcp-ng.org * xcp-ng-ci: mirrors.xcp-ng.org Excluding mirror: updates.xcp-ng.org * xcp-ng-updates: mirrors.xcp-ng.org xcp-ng-base/signature | 473 B 00:00:00 xcp-ng-base/signature | 3.0 kB 00:00:00 !!! xcp-ng-ci/signature | 473 B 00:00:00 xcp-ng-ci/signature | 3.0 kB 00:00:00 !!! xcp-ng-updates/signature | 473 B 00:00:00 xcp-ng-updates/signature | 3.0 kB 00:00:00 !!! xcp-ng-ci/primary_db | 168 kB 00:00:00 Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check ---> Package nut.x86_64 0:2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3 will be installed --> Processing Dependency: libfreeipmi.so.17()(64bit) for package: nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64 --> Processing Dependency: libipmimonitoring.so.6()(64bit) for package: nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64 --> Processing Dependency: libltdl.so.7()(64bit) for package: nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64 --> Processing Dependency: libupsclient.so.6()(64bit) for package: nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64 --> Processing Dependency: libusb-0.1.so.4()(64bit) for package: nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64 --> Running transaction check ---> Package freeipmi.x86_64 0:1.5.7-2.el7 will be installed ---> Package libtool-ltdl.x86_64 0:2.4.2-22.el7_3 will be installed ---> Package libusb.x86_64 1:0.1.4-3.el7 will be installed ---> Package nut-client.x86_64 0:2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3 will be installed --> Finished Dependency Resolution Dependencies Resolved ==================================================================================================================================================================================================================== Package Arch Version Repository Size ==================================================================================================================================================================================================================== Installing: nut x86_64 2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3 xcp-ng-ci 2.2 M Installing for dependencies: freeipmi x86_64 1.5.7-2.el7 xcp-ng-base 2.0 M libtool-ltdl x86_64 2.4.2-22.el7_3 xcp-ng-base 48 k libusb x86_64 1:0.1.4-3.el7 xcp-ng-base 19 k nut-client x86_64 2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3 xcp-ng-ci 203 k Transaction Summary ==================================================================================================================================================================================================================== Install 1 Package (+4 Dependent packages) Total download size: 4.5 M Installed size: 20 M Is this ok [y/d/N]: y Downloading packages: (1/5): libtool-ltdl-2.4.2-22.el7_3.x86_64.rpm | 48 kB 00:00:00 (2/5): freeipmi-1.5.7-2.el7.x86_64.rpm | 2.0 MB 00:00:01 (3/5): libusb-0.1.4-3.el7.x86_64.rpm | 19 kB 00:00:00 (4/5): nut-client-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64.rpm | 203 kB 00:00:00 (5/5): nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64.rpm | 2.2 MB 00:00:01 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total 1.7 MB/s | 4.5 MB 00:00:02 Running transaction check Running transaction test Transaction test succeeded Running transaction Installing : nut-client-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64 1/5 Installing : freeipmi-1.5.7-2.el7.x86_64 2/5 Installing : libtool-ltdl-2.4.2-22.el7_3.x86_64 3/5 Installing : 1:libusb-0.1.4-3.el7.x86_64 4/5 Installing : nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64 5/5 Verifying : nut-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64 1/5 Verifying : 1:libusb-0.1.4-3.el7.x86_64 2/5 Verifying : libtool-ltdl-2.4.2-22.el7_3.x86_64 3/5 Verifying : freeipmi-1.5.7-2.el7.x86_64 4/5 Verifying : nut-client-2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3.x86_64 5/5 Installed: nut.x86_64 0:2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3 Dependency Installed: freeipmi.x86_64 0:1.5.7-2.el7 libtool-ltdl.x86_64 0:2.4.2-22.el7_3 libusb.x86_64 1:0.1.4-3.el7 nut-client.x86_64 0:2.8.0-2.1.xcpng8.3 Complete!I will let you know once I got some impressions.
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@rzr: Sorry, first and foremost I totally forgot to say thank you very much. I really appreciate you work and effort for this "non-core" issue.
That said, I can say that it works on my test machines. I could successfully install and connected to a APC Smart-UPS 750 (SMT750RMI2UC) to my test server. Not a single problem whatsoever. I will now monitor it a bit and if I observe anything I will let you know.
Is there maybe anything particular you are interested in for me to test?
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@rzr: Sorry, first and foremost I totally forgot to say thank you very much. I really appreciate you work and effort for this "non-core" issue.
You're welcome !
Keep in mind using/enabling ci repo can be dangerous but for this nut update the risk is low.Is there maybe anything particular you are interested in for me to test?
Nothing specific, the regular use case but feel free to share to community your experience with your hardware:
https://networkupstools.org/ddl/APC/Smart-UPS_750.html
Then others can compare with other devices supported by N.U.T. :
https://networkupstools.org/ddl/
This makes me think, I have scavenged an APC BE400 but it looks like an offline device, unsure I will make anything useful soon.
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Good point.
Quick install procedure for anyone interested. I use a USB connected APC Smart-UPS 750 (SMT750RMI2U) on a completely patched test "XCP-ng 8.3" server. To install ci packages run:
yum install nut --enablerepo=xcp-ng-ciMost important, check that your USV device is properly connected and found using
lsusbit should show something like:
... Bus 002 Device 002: ID 051d:0003 American Power Conversion UPS ...Grab details then by:
lsusb -s 002:002 -vwhich should give you something like
[12:53 xcp-test ~]# lsusb -s 002:002 -v Bus 002 Device 002: ID 051d:0003 American Power Conversion UPS Device Descriptor: bLength 18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 2.00 bDeviceClass 0 (Defined at Interface level) bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 bMaxPacketSize0 64 idVendor 0x051d American Power Conversion idProduct 0x0003 UPS bcdDevice 1.06 iManufacturer 1 American Power Conversion iProduct 2 Smart-UPS 750 FW:UPS 15.1 / ID=18 iSerial 3 SERIALXXXXXXXX bNumConfigurations 1 ... Remote Wakeup EnabledBased upon this data you can add this information to your ups.conf
nano /etc/ups/ups.conf[apc] driver = "usbhid-ups" port = "auto" vendorid = "051D" productid = "0003" product = "Smart-UPS 750 FW:UPS 15.1 / ID=18" serial = "SERIALXXXXXXXX" vendor = "American Power Conversion" bus = "002"Now add users in
nano /etc/ups/upsd.users. "upsmon" is for slave connected devices.[admin] password = PWXXXXXX actions = SET FSD instcmds = ALL upsmon master [upsmon] password = SLAVEPW upsmon slaveNow add/enable via
nano /etc/ups/upsd.confthe required lines. If you want other servers to listen, you need to listen to a non-localhost IP of course.LISTEN 127.0.0.1 3493Now enable in
nano /etc/ups/upsmon.confthe relevant line:MONITOR apc@localhost 1 admin PWXXXXXX masterNow restart services:
upsdrvctl start systemctl start nut-server.service systemctl start nut-monitor.serviceand you should be able to see the USV data by calling:
upsc apc@localhostIt should show:
battery.charge: 100 battery.charge.low: 10 battery.charge.warning: 50 battery.runtime: 3900 battery.runtime.low: 120 battery.type: PbAc battery.voltage: 27.3 battery.voltage.nominal: 24.0 device.mfr: American Power Conversion device.model: Smart-UPS 750 device.serial: SERIALXXXXX device.type: ups driver.name: usbhid-ups driver.parameter.bus: 002 driver.parameter.pollfreq: 30 driver.parameter.pollinterval: 2 driver.parameter.port: auto driver.parameter.product: Smart-UPS 750 FW:UPS 15.1 / ID=18 driver.parameter.productid: 0003 driver.parameter.serial: SERIALXXXXX driver.parameter.synchronous: auto driver.parameter.vendor: American Power Conversion driver.parameter.vendorid: 051D driver.version: 2.8.0 driver.version.data: APC HID 0.98 driver.version.internal: 0.47 driver.version.usb: libusb-0.1 (or compat) ups.beeper.status: enabled ups.delay.shutdown: 20 ups.firmware: UPS 15.1 / ID=18 ups.mfr: American Power Conversion ups.mfr.date: 2015/08/14 ups.model: Smart-UPS 750 ups.productid: 0003 ups.serial: SERIALXXXXX ups.status: OL ups.timer.reboot: -1 ups.timer.shutdown: -1 ups.vendorid: 051dHINT#1: I experienced that the bus id of the usb device sometimes changes after reboot. Watch out if you restart the server and adapt your ups.conf accordingly!!!
HINT#2: You need to open firewall port 3493 if you want to access it from a monitor!
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@rzr Just for curiosity.
As far as I understand you assess the risk as low for the nut package - and only for that - to use ci-repo. I am fine with that for my personal servers. In terms of staying as close to the stable version in order to avoid potential future upgrade issues, is there a chance to say something about:
- Would you consider to integrate this into "stable" branch?
- What would be the next steps on our side to support this?
- How long would does that roughly take?
Thank again!
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