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    • olivierlambertO Offline
      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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      It has to flow from a host, to XOA then to your browser. Anything that could slow the traffic between could explain. Also, what kind of compression did you use?

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      • akurzawaA Offline
        akurzawa
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        It seems that this is impossible for xoa to export 2 o more vm at once

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        • olivierlambertO Offline
          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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          I'm not sure about this, asking @julien-f or @pdonias about it

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          • akurzawaA Offline
            akurzawa
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            I've endless export task :

            atlas vm on 2nd server xoa is on 1st, both xcp-ng servers connected to single gb switch thru 4-port lacp connection

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              cg
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              Can't say for XOA specific, but let me add: 20 MB/s is slow (even with XS) - on better systems it should rather hit 200 MB/s.

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              • olivierlambertO Offline
                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                It's hard to tell slow or not without knowing all the context 😉 Using GZIP compression, it's "normal". Then you have network speed between the host and XO, then between XO and the web browser.

                "Slow" alone doesn't mean anything!

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                • julien-fJ Offline
                  julien-f Vates 🪐 Co-Founder XO Team @akurzawa
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                  @akurzawa said in xoa slow export:

                  It seems that this is impossible for xoa to export 2 o more vm at once

                  Indeed, for the time being, XO limits to 2 concurrent exports on any given pool, this will change in the near future.

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                  • julien-fJ Offline
                    julien-f Vates 🪐 Co-Founder XO Team @akurzawa
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                    @akurzawa said in xoa slow export:

                    I've endless export task

                    Should not cause any issues and it will automatically be destroyed by the XenAPI after 24 hours.

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                    • akurzawaA Offline
                      akurzawa @julien-f
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                      @julien-f said in xoa slow export:

                      @akurzawa said in xoa slow export:

                      I've endless export task

                      Should not cause any issues and it will automatically be destroyed by the XenAPI after 24 hours.

                      wow just 24 hours? Do you know that I cannot shotdown the host right now nor my UPS in case of power failure?

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                      • julien-fJ Offline
                        julien-f Vates 🪐 Co-Founder XO Team @akurzawa
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                        @akurzawa I'm not sure but restarting xo-server might do the trick as well.

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                        • olivierlambertO Offline
                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                          Toolstack restart will cancel the task.

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                            cg
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                            Did you do any tests with XCP-ng Center? Just to get any numbers.
                            I have one VM on XS that needs to be exportet regulary, which hits about 800 GB in ~22 hours. It always starts reasonably quick and then becomes slower by time - but 800 vs. 8...

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                            • akurzawaA Offline
                              akurzawa @cg
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                              @cg said in xoa slow export:

                              Did you do any tests with XCP-ng Center? Just to get any numbers.
                              I have one VM on XS that needs to be exportet regulary, which hits about 800 GB in ~22 hours. It always starts reasonably quick and then becomes slower by time - but 800 vs. 8...

                              In 90% cases I'm obsrving the sam thing - export either in xoa or xcp-ng center is getting slowe over time... idk whats the reason of that.

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                                cg
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                                As Citrix barely ever gave any insights... maybe @olivierlambert can bring light into that.

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                                • olivierlambertO Offline
                                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                  We aren't doing any test with XCP-ng Center because we don't use it at all 🙂 You can use xe to compare (xe CLI is basically another XAPI client -like XO or XCP-ng Center- which can run on the same host or even elsewhere)

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                                  • akurzawaA Offline
                                    akurzawa
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                                    Regardin export from xoa I the highest speed that I've seen was 40MB/s on raid10 setup, xoa and vm on the same host. What could be the reason of that? Host is almost always idle, just very basic workload.

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                                    • olivierlambertO Offline
                                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                      Export from XOA to where? Your browser, a remote?

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                                      • akurzawaA Offline
                                        akurzawa
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                                        Export from xoa, Gb LAN, latest Chrome, Windows

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                                          cg @olivierlambert
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                                          @olivierlambert It's basically the same. I almost only export via scripts/xe.

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                                          • olivierlambertO Offline
                                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                            @akurzawa in this case, data is going from the SR to the host, then from the host to XOA, and finally from XOA to your PC with your browser. As you can see there is a lot of "hops" before being stored in your hard drive. And because it's a stream (there isn't any intermediate storage), it means it's going to the speed of the slower element (back pressure).

                                            In general, Xen Orchestra isn't the bottleneck itself because it just "passes" the stream. The most common bottleneck is in general the host itself. Using VM export with zstd can yield good results.

                                            @cg so the bottleneck can be from your SR to your host, the host itself, or your host to the storage destination.

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