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    • olivierlambertO
      olivierlambert Vates πŸͺ Co-Founder🦸 CEO πŸ§‘β€πŸ’Ό
      last edited by

      Not a good idea to embed XO inside Dom0… (also it will cause issue if you have multiple XOs, it's meat to run at one place only).

      That's why the virtual appliance is better πŸ™‚

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      • borzelB
        borzel XCP-ng Center Team 🏚️ @olivierlambert
        last edited by borzel

        @olivierlambert My biggest Question: Why is this not a good Idea?

        How do big datacenters solve the issue with the performance? Just install on Hardware? With virtual Appliance you are limited to GBit speed.

        I run more than one XO's, one for Backups and one for Useraccess. Don't want users on my Backupserver.

        Maybe this is something for a separat thread...

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        • olivierlambertO
          olivierlambert Vates πŸͺ Co-Founder🦸 CEO πŸ§‘β€πŸ’Ό
          last edited by

          VM speed is not limited to GBit speed. XO proxies will deal with big infrastructures to avoid bottlenecks.

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          • borzelB
            borzel XCP-ng Center Team 🏚️ @olivierlambert
            last edited by

            @olivierlambert ah, ok πŸ™‚

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            • borzelB
              borzel XCP-ng Center Team 🏚️
              last edited by borzel

              I did a little more testing with ZFS, tried to move a disk from localpool to srpool

              Setup

              • XCP-ng on single 500Gb disk, ZFS-Pool created on a separat partition on that disk (~420GB) -> localpool -> SR named localzfs
              • ZFS-Pool on 4 x 500GB Disks (Raid10) -> srpool -> SR named sr1

              Error

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              Output of /var/log/SMLog

               Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28282] ['uuidgen', '-r']
               Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28282]   pread SUCCESS
               Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28282] lock: opening lock file /var/lock/sm/4c47f4b0-2504-fe56-085c-1ffe2269ddea/sr
               Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28282] lock: acquired /var/lock/sm/4c47f4b0-2504-fe56-085c-1ffe2269ddea/sr
               Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28282] vdi_create {'sr_uuid': '4c47f4b0-2504-fe56-085c-1ffe2269ddea', 'subtask_of':      'DummyRef:|62abb588-91e6-46d7-8c89-a1be48c843bd|VDI.create', 'vdi_type': 'system', 'args': ['10737418240', 'xo-os', '', '', 'false', '19700101T00:00:00Z', '', 'false'], 'o_direct': False, 'host_ref': 'OpaqueRef:ada301d3-f232-3421-527a-d511fd63f8c6', 'session_ref': 'OpaqueRef:02edf603-3cdf-444a-af75-1fb0a8d71216', 'device_config': {'SRmaster': 'true', 'location': '/mnt/srpool/sr1'}, 'command': 'vdi_create', 'sr_ref': 'OpaqueRef:0c8c4688-d402-4329-a99b-6273401246ec', 'vdi_sm_config': {}}
               Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28282] ['/usr/sbin/td-util', 'create', 'vhd', '10240', '/var/run/sr-mount/4c47f4b0-2504-fe56-085c-1ffe2269ddea/11a040ba-53fd-4119-80b3-7ea5a7e134c6.vhd']
               Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28282]   pread SUCCESS
               Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28282] ['/usr/sbin/td-util', 'query', 'vhd', '-v', '/var/run/sr-mount/4c47f4b0-2504-fe56-085c-     1ffe2269ddea/11a040ba-53fd-4119-80b3-7ea5a7e134c6.vhd']
               Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28282]   pread SUCCESS
               Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28282] lock: released /var/lock/sm/4c47f4b0-2504-fe56-085c-1ffe2269ddea/sr
               Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28282] lock: closed /var/lock/sm/4c47f4b0-2504-fe56-085c-1ffe2269ddea/sr
               Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28311] lock: opening lock file /var/lock/sm/319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154/sr
               Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28311] lock: acquired /var/lock/sm/319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154/sr
               Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28311] ['/usr/sbin/td-util', 'query', 'vhd', '-vpfb', '/var/run/sr-mount/319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154/ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0.vhd']
               Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28311]   pread SUCCESS
               Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28311] vdi_attach {'sr_uuid': '319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154', 'subtask_of': 'DummyRef:|b0cce7fa-75bb-4677-981a-4383e5fe1487|VDI.attach', 'vdi_ref': 'OpaqueRef:9daa47a5-1cae-40c2-b62e-88a767f38877', 'vdi_on_boot': 'persist', 'args': ['false'], 'o_direct': False, 'vdi_location': 'ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0', 'host_ref': 'OpaqueRef:ada301d3-f232-3421-527a-d511fd63f8c6', 'session_ref': 'OpaqueRef:a27b0e88-cebe-41a7-bc0c-ae0eb46dd011', 'device_config': {'SRmaster': 'true', 'location': '/localpool/sr'}, 'command': 'vdi_attach', 'vdi_allow_caching': 'false', 'sr_ref': 'OpaqueRef:e4d0225c-1737-4496-8701-86a7f7ac18c1', 'vdi_uuid': 'ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0'}
               Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28311] lock: opening lock file /var/lock/sm/ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0/vdi
               Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28311] result: {'o_direct_reason': 'SR_NOT_SUPPORTED', 'params': '/dev/sm/backend/319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154/ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0', 'o_direct': True, 'xenstore_data': {'scsi/0x12/0x80': 'AIAAEmNhODhmOGRjLTRhYjYtNGIgIA==', 'scsi/0x12/0x83': 'AIMAMQIBAC1YRU5TUkMgIGNhODhmOGRjLTRhYjYtNGJlNy05MDg0LTFiNDFjYmM4YzFjMCA=', 'vdi-uuid': 'ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0', 'mem-pool': '319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154'}}
               Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28311] lock: closed /var/lock/sm/ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0/vdi
               Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28311] lock: released /var/lock/sm/319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154/sr
               Jul  7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28311] lock: closed /var/lock/sm/319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154/sr
               Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337] lock: opening lock file /var/lock/sm/319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154/sr
               Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337] lock: acquired /var/lock/sm/319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154/sr
               Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337] ['/usr/sbin/td-util', 'query', 'vhd', '-vpfb', '/var/run/sr-mount/319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154/ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0.vhd']
               Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337]   pread SUCCESS
               Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337] lock: released /var/lock/sm/319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154/sr
               Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337] vdi_activate {'sr_uuid': '319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154', 'subtask_of': 'DummyRef:|1f6f53c2-0d1e-462c-aeea-5d109e55d44f|VDI.activate', 'vdi_ref': 'OpaqueRef:9daa47a5-1cae-40c2-b62e-88a767f38877', 'vdi_on_boot': 'persist', 'args': ['false'], 'o_direct': False, 'vdi_location': 'ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0', 'host_ref': 'OpaqueRef:ada301d3-f232-3421-527a-d511fd63f8c6', 'session_ref': 'OpaqueRef:392bd2b6-2a84-48ca-96f1-fe0bdaa96f20', 'device_config': {'SRmaster': 'true', 'location': '/localpool/sr'}, 'command': 'vdi_activate', 'vdi_allow_caching': 'false', 'sr_ref': 'OpaqueRef:e4d0225c-1737-4496-8701-86a7f7ac18c1', 'vdi_uuid': 'ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0'}
               Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337] lock: opening lock file /var/lock/sm/ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0/vdi
               Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337] blktap2.activate
               Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337] lock: acquired /var/lock/sm/ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0/vdi
               Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337] Adding tag to: ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0
               Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337] Activate lock succeeded
               Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337] lock: opening lock file /var/lock/sm/319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154/sr
               Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337] ['/usr/sbin/td-util', 'query', 'vhd', '-vpfb', '/var/run/sr-mount/319aebee-24f0-8232-0d9e-ad42a75d8154/ca88f8dc-4ab6-4be7-9084-1b41cbc8c1c0.vhd']
               Jul  7 15:44:08 xen SM: [28337]   pread SUCCESS
              
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              • borzelB
                borzel XCP-ng Center Team 🏚️
                last edited by

                @borzel said in Testing ZFS with XCP-ng:

                Jul 7 15:44:07 xen SM: [28311] result: {'o_direct_reason': 'SR_NOT_SUPPORTED',

                Did find it after posting this and looking onto it... is this a known thing?

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                • nraynaudN
                  nraynaud XCP-ng Team πŸš€
                  last edited by

                  that's weird: https://github.com/xapi-project/sm/blob/master/drivers/blktap2.py#L1002

                  I don't even know how my tests did work before.

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                  • olivierlambertO
                    olivierlambert Vates πŸͺ Co-Founder🦸 CEO πŸ§‘β€πŸ’Ό
                    last edited by

                    Maybe because it wasn't triggered without a VDI live migration?

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                    • borzelB
                      borzel XCP-ng Center Team 🏚️
                      last edited by borzel

                      did no livemigration ...just local copy of a vm
                      ... ah, I should read before I answer ...

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                      • borzelB
                        borzel XCP-ng Center Team 🏚️
                        last edited by borzel

                        @nraynaud Is there any info how to build blktap2 myself to test with my homelab?
                        I did find it here: https://xcp-ng.org/forum/topic/122/how-to-build-blktap-from-sources/3

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                        • borzelB
                          borzel XCP-ng Center Team 🏚️
                          last edited by borzel

                          I tested the updated version of blktap and build it like described in https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/1677, but copying a vm within the SR fails 😞

                          Async.VM.copy R:f286a572f8aa|xapi] Error in safe_clone_disks: Server_error(VDI_COPY_FAILED, [ End_of_file ])
                          
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                          • borzelB
                            borzel XCP-ng Center Team 🏚️
                            last edited by borzel

                            the function safe_clone_disks is located in https://github.com/xapi-project/xen-api/blob/72a9a2d6826e9e39d30fab0d6420de6a0dcc0dc5/ocaml/xapi/xapi_vm_clone.ml#L139

                            it calls clone_single_vdi in https://github.com/xapi-project/xen-api/blob/72a9a2d6826e9e39d30fab0d6420de6a0dcc0dc5/ocaml/xapi/xapi_vm_clone.ml#L116

                            which calls Client.Async.VDI.copy from a XAPI-OCaml Module Client which I can not find 😞

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                            • borzelB
                              borzel XCP-ng Center Team 🏚️
                              last edited by borzel

                              found something in /var/log/SMlog

                              Jul 21 19:52:40 xen SM: [17060] result: {'o_direct_reason': 'SR_NOT_SUPPORTED', 'params': '/dev/sm/backend
                              /4c8bc619-98bd-9342-85fe-1ea4782c0cf2/8e901c80-0ead-4764-b3d9-b04b4376e4c4',
                              'o_direct': True, 'xenstore_data': {'scsi/0x12/0x80': 'AIAAEjhlOTAxYzgwLTBlYWQtNDcgIA==', 'scsi/0x12/0x83': 
                              'AIMAMQIBAC1YRU5TUkMgIDhlOTAxYzgwLTBlYWQtNDc2NC1iM2Q5LWIwNGI0Mzc2ZTRjNCA=', 'vdi-uuid': 
                              '8e901c80-0ead-4764-b3d9-b04b4376e4c4', 'mem-pool': '4c8bc619-98bd-9342-85fe-1ea4782c0cf2'}}
                              

                              Note the 'o_direct': True in this log entry. But I created the SR with other-config:o_direct=false

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                              • stormiS
                                stormi Vates πŸͺ XCP-ng Team πŸš€ @borzel
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                                @borzel I'll let @nraynaud have a say, but first, to be sure, you built it with

                                xcp-build --build-local . --define 'xcp_ng_section extras'
                                

                                and the resulting RPM contains .extras in its name?

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                                • borzelB
                                  borzel XCP-ng Center Team 🏚️
                                  last edited by borzel

                                  yes, I did πŸ™‚ Checked it multiple times. Will check it again today to be 100% sure.

                                  I also saw the right logoutput from @nraynaud new function where he probes the open with O_DIRECT and retries with O_DSYNC.

                                  I have the "feel" that xapi or blktap copy's files in some situations without it's normal way. Maybe a special "file copy" without a open command?

                                  Can I attach a debugger to blktap while in operration? This would also be needed for deep support of the whole server.

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                                  • stormiS
                                    stormi Vates πŸͺ XCP-ng Team πŸš€
                                    last edited by

                                    You can probably attach gdb to a running blktap, yes. Install the blktap-debuginfo package that was produced when you built blktap to make debug symbols available.

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                                    • nraynaudN
                                      nraynaud XCP-ng Team πŸš€
                                      last edited by

                                      @borzel there is something fishy around here https://github.com/xapi-project/sm/blob/master/drivers/blktap2.py#L994 I am still unsure what to do.

                                      I have not removed O_DIRECT everywhere in blktap, I was expecting to remove the remainder by the o_direct flag in python, but I guess I was wrong. we might patch the python.

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                                      • borzelB
                                        borzel XCP-ng Center Team 🏚️
                                        last edited by

                                        Maybe we can create a new SR type "zfs" and copy the file SR implementation from https://github.com/xapi-project/sm/blob/master/drivers/FileSR.py
                                        This would us later allow to create a more deeper integration of ZFS.

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                                        • borzelB
                                          borzel XCP-ng Center Team 🏚️
                                          last edited by borzel

                                          Success! I changed in /opt/xensource/sm/blktap2.py

                                           elif not ((self.target.vdi.sr.handles("nfs") or self.target.vdi.sr.handles("ext") or self.target.vdi.sr.handles("smb"))):
                                          

                                          to

                                           elif not ((self.target.vdi.sr.handles("file")) or (self.target.vdi.sr.handles("nfs") or self.target.vdi.sr.handles("ext") or self.target.vdi.sr.handles("smb"))):
                                          

                                          Than I deleted /opt/xensource/sm/blktap2.pyc and /opt/xensource/sm/blktap2.pyo so that the *.py file is used.

                                          Now I can copy from other SR types to my ZFS SR.

                                          But copy within my ZFS SR does not work...

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                                          • borzelB
                                            borzel XCP-ng Center Team 🏚️
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                                            some info about the o_direct flag: https://xenserver.org/blog/entry/read-caching.html

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