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    • olivierlambertO
      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder🦸 CEO 🧑‍💼
      last edited by

      1. It can't be a CPU over-provisioning issue, since there's no limit on that side.
      2. How do you make the migration exactly? What wizard are you talking about, using which client?
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      • Systemgeek-louisS
        Systemgeek-louis @olivierlambert
        last edited by

        Using XCP-ng Center ( am on version 20.04.01). If I right click on a running VM then click on Migrate to Server and then Migrate VM Wizard.

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        • olivierlambertO
          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder🦸 CEO 🧑‍💼
          last edited by

          Could you try with a supported client?

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          • Systemgeek-louisS
            Systemgeek-louis @olivierlambert
            last edited by

            Huh??? Is not XCP-ng Center a supported client?

            I cannot use XOA because no one in the company wants to pay for that..

            What other client is there?

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            • olivierlambertO
              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder🦸 CEO 🧑‍💼
              last edited by olivierlambert

              I hate to say that, but reading the fine manual is a good step to start: https://xcp-ng.org/docs/management.html

              Not paying is fine, but then the company will pay your time spent understanding all of this. Using XOA might be cheaper in the end, but hey, it's not up to me 🤷

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              • Systemgeek-louisS
                Systemgeek-louis @olivierlambert
                last edited by

                Actually I have read that. And unless I am mistaken XOA (in all its forms. WebUI, CLI and API) are for pay. I did not see that XCP Center was community based. And that finally leaves doing it using XE Cli (XAPI). Not a very good way to do things.

                But I think we are getting off the point here. My question is is there a limitation in XCP Center ( or a bug) that is causing this? We can work around it by doing 2 migrations. First to the pool master and second to some where else in the pool.

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                • olivierlambertO
                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder🦸 CEO 🧑‍💼
                  last edited by olivierlambert

                  If you read it more carefully, just by clicking on the XO link in that list, you would have found this: https://xcp-ng.org/docs/management.html#xen-orchestra and then see:


                  XOA vs XO from GitHub?

                  XOA is meant to be used as the easiest way to test it, but also to use it in production: this is the version professionally supported. If you are an individual, feel free to enjoy version from GitHub directly!


                  Then, after a minimal effort, going to https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/installation.html#from-the-sources and understood that you can have all XO features for free if you build it from Github.

                  Sometimes I wonder, we made such efforts to keep things fully open source, with just spending few minutes to search for how to get everything for free is already too much sometimes 🤔

                  Without talking about another company which can't afford to use a decent tool to manage and backup their VMs 🤔

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                  • Systemgeek-louisS
                    Systemgeek-louis @olivierlambert
                    last edited by

                    Yes but under that it says that building it your self is not so easy unless you have built Nodejs apps before. I have not.

                    But I would be willing to try.

                    Anyway. For what we are doing (pool migration) its going fine. And we are just about done. Once done I am going to destroy the old pool and rebuild it as part of the new pool.

                    But thank you for your help.

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                    • olivierlambertO
                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder🦸 CEO 🧑‍💼
                      last edited by olivierlambert

                      The deal is simple:

                      • if you don't want to pay, you have to make some minimal efforts to enjoy all features for free
                      • if you don't want to make efforts, you usually pay for it

                      You can't have both 🤷

                      For the migration, I don't have any obvious answer, I don't think it's a normal behavior, but I'm not sure what XCP-ng Center does.

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                      • Systemgeek-louisS
                        Systemgeek-louis @olivierlambert
                        last edited by

                        Yes you are quite right. But its not my money to spend. If it were left up to me I would spend it. Since XCP seems to be lots and lots and lots of times better then VMWare for what you pay for even when you have to pay.

                        There is no way to compare pricing. But not my company not my money. And no one asks or seems to want my option.

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                        • olivierlambertO
                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder🦸 CEO 🧑‍💼
                          last edited by

                          Don't worry, I don't blame you, but the people taking the decision to pay or not 😉

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