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    Non-server CPU compatibility - Ryzen and Intel

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    • olivierlambertO Offline
      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
      last edited by

      That's… interesting šŸ¤” So the "X" series seems to have some issues in the end? It's weird since it should be very different than it's non-X counterpart.

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        andyhhp Xen Guru
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        So, we've had reports on xen-devel which look a little like this.

        @BlueBadger are you able to switch back to your 7950x and try booting Xen with x2apic_phys=true ? It appears that the -X processors are missing a feature in their IOMMU and Xen was getting confused when setting up interrupt handling.

        https://xenbits.xen.org/gitweb/?p=xen.git;a=commitdiff;h=0d2686f6b66b4b1b3c72c3525083b0ce02830054 is at least part of the fix, but so far feedback on the mailing lists suggests it's not a complete fix.

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          BlueBadger @andyhhp
          last edited by

          @andyhhp Thanks for the info.
          I plan to leave my current machine (Ryzen 7900) as is since it seems to be running well.
          I plan to build a new machine with the extra 7950x. The motherboard is on back order.
          I will try the new setting once it is built.

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            BlueBadger @andyhhp
            last edited by

            @andyhhp I built a new machine with my Ryzen 7950x.
            Booting Xen with x2apic_phys=true did not seem to fix any issues.
            šŸ˜ž

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            • olivierlambertO Offline
              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
              last edited by

              Interesting, thanks for the feedback. @andyhhp should we provide a Xen version with the initial fix and see if it's better? (maybe combined to the x2apic param)

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                Sam
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                I'm testing this combo:

                • AMD RYZEN 9 7900X
                • ASUS PRIME X670-P WIFI bios 1406
                • 2x32GB KINGSTON 5600 CL40 (max QLV)
                • Boot drive NVME 250gb (chipset) and SN850X 4.0 1TB on CPU.

                With setting: Local APIC Mode = X2APIC and UEFI set to Other OS. Installed 8.3 alpha and updated, got errors. Test installing XOA took too much time and booting was painfully slow using only 1 SSD on chipset NVME.

                Tried disabling IOMMU, but the same issue.

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                • olivierlambertO Offline
                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                  last edited by

                  It's possible we got a fix, but we need sometime to generate the right build/RPM for you to test šŸ™‚

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                    Sam @olivierlambert
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                    @olivierlambert said in Non-server CPU compatibility - Ryzen and Intel:

                    It's possible we got a fix, but we need sometime to generate the right build/RPM for you to test šŸ™‚

                    I have to identical setups for testing. With all the storage being pcie and interrupts. I also got a instlall with proxmox, but kind of same issues with IOMMU, trying to passtrough the 4.0 nvme. The disk was very slow, CPU wise performance on W11 machine was great.

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                    • olivierlambertO Offline
                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                      I'm almost sure the future patch will fix the slow CPU behavior šŸ™‚ Hang on!

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                        peanutyost @olivierlambert
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                        @olivierlambert said in Non-server CPU compatibility - Ryzen and Intel:

                        I'm almost sure the future patch will fix the slow CPU behavior šŸ™‚ Hang on!

                        Any update on when this fix is available. I got a x series cpu and am having these same problems.

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                        • olivierlambertO Offline
                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                          last edited by

                          We need to take a closer look, it's in our backlog but we also have other stuff pending (as you can imagine). Let me ping @stormi about this.

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                          • stormiS Offline
                            stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
                            last edited by stormi

                            In theory we now have the relevant patches. We'll try to provide a patched build in the coming days, either this week or the next.

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                            • peanutyostP Offline
                              peanutyost
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                              Awesome! I appreciate it.

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                                Sam @stormi
                                last edited by

                                @stormi Good news! if you need some testing to be done, I've a 7900X avaliable for testing.

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                                • stormiS Offline
                                  stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi everyone!

                                  So, @andSmv applied a few patches to Xen for you and built it.

                                  As it's still only a temporary test build, you will find it in a special user repository at: https://koji.xcp-ng.org/repos/user/8/8.3/asemenov1/x86_64/

                                  You may either add the repository (by creating a .repo file in /etc/yum.repos.d/) and then run yum update --enablerepo={nameofrepo}, or download the RPMs locally and then run yum update ./xen*.rpm.

                                  Please let us know if it fixes issues with your CPUs.

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                                    BlueBadger @stormi
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                                    @stormi @andSmv
                                    Thank you!
                                    The patch seems to work.
                                    My VMs seem to run without any issues on my Ryzen 7950x.

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                                    • olivierlambertO Offline
                                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                      last edited by

                                      Yay \o/

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                                        mgales
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                                        It's looking very good on my 7900X since applying the fixes:

                                        • Rolled back all the "nopv" boot options on Linux VMs (Ubuntu, Mint, Rocky) and they boot quickly.
                                        • Xen Orchestra has its IP address within a minute instead of around 10 minutes
                                        • Xen tools status on the Linux VMs are now showing "installed" (vs "not installed" before fixes)
                                        • No "stuck CPU" messages observed anywhere

                                        What a difference! Thanks!!

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                                        • peanutyostP Offline
                                          peanutyost @stormi
                                          last edited by peanutyost

                                          @stormi Everything seem to be running stable. Thanks for the updates and all the hard work. I'm running a Ryzen 7 7700x.

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                                          • olivierlambertO Offline
                                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                            last edited by

                                            Thanks for your feedback!

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