Confused re: pricing (XOA vs. Vates Essentials)
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This is possibly a follow-on from https://xcp-ng.org/forum/topic/8742/xoa-pricing-guide but I decided to create a separate thread:
I have reviewed:
We have two XCP-ng installations/pools and I'd like to be able to have a single XO manage them both. The proliferation of "levels" is highly confusing:
- Free
- Starter
- Enterprise
- Platinum
- Essential
- Essential+
- Pro
- Enterprise
@olivierlambert can you advise on which page is the "best" source of info on your products?
Merci,
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https://vates.tech/pricing-and-support/ is the right one.
We'll change XO site to remove the "legacy" plans, we'll not sell XO "alone" anymore at some point, that doesn't make sense anymore.
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Essential & Essential+ = max. of 3 hosts
Pro = min. of 3 hostsDo the 3 hosts have to be owned by the same entity?
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Yes, obviously. Why? Because I'm not sure to get the idea behind your question
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I ask because I have a client that has 1 host with a single VM!
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Then they are eligible to Essential Obviously, if you have 500 customers in this case and you manage everything with your own account, we can discuss volume
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@olivierlambert I guess when you say "it doesn't make sense" you mean it doesn't make sense for Vates?? If a customer has one host their price is going to go from $960/yr to $2,000/yr - right?
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@olivierlambert Essentials (max of 3 hosts) is $2000/year.
That means 1 host with 1 vm or 3 hosts with 300 vm's, both cost the same per year?
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@mmcgr No, it doesn't make sense for the user too. Compare apples to apples first.
Half of the potential issues on the stack (maybe more) are coming from the storage/network on XCP-ng. That's why it doesn't make sense to get support only for XO. You'll have an issue and you couldn't have any support for it because it's not an XO problem. Would you be happy with it? I bet you wouldn't. Since we do the entire stack, having just 50% of the product doesn't mean anything anymore.
If you had to take XO + XCP-ng support, it's 910$ (XOA Starter) + 600$ (old XCP-ng Standard plan) it's 1020$/y, for one host. And if you have 3 hosts, it's 2710$. So the new plan is quickly cheaper while having exactly the same level of features.
And that's even more visible if you want XOA Premium (6500/y). For 1 host, that would previously cost you 7100$/y. Now it's 4000$/y (Essential+). As you can see, it's very favorable to most of our small users.
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@fatek Yes.