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    • olivierlambertO Offline
      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
      last edited by

      Yes, VDIs connected to a VM are by definition not orphaned. You don't want to remove those.

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        robert wild
        last edited by

        just out of interest when i change the magnifying glass to "type:VDI-unmanaged"

        it lists "base copy"

        what are they?

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        • olivierlambertO Offline
          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
          last edited by

          They are the read only parent of a disk (when you do a snapshot, in fact it creates 3 disks: the base copy in read only, the new active disk and the snapshot).

          If you remove the snapshot, then a coalesce will appear, to merge the active disk within the base copy, and get back to the initial state: 1 disk only.

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            robert wild
            last edited by

            so can i delete the "type:VDI-snapshot"

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              robert wild
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              • olivierlambertO Offline
                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                last edited by

                1. Please edit your post and use Markdown syntax for code/error blocks
                2. Rescan your SR and try again, at worst remove everything you can, leave it a while to coalesce and wait before trying to remove it again
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                  robert wild
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                  vdi.delete
                  {
                  "id": "1778c579-65a5-48b3-82df-9558a4f6ff7f"
                  }
                  {
                  "code": "SR_BACKEND_FAILURE_1200",
                  "params": [
                  "",
                  "",
                  ""
                  ],
                  "task": {
                  "uuid": "3c72bd9a-36ec-01da-b1b5-0b19468f4532",
                  "name_label": "Async.VDI.destroy",
                  "name_description": "",
                  "allowed_operations": [],
                  "current_operations": {},
                  "created": "20200120T19:23:41Z",
                  "finished": "20200120T19:23:50Z",
                  "status": "failure",
                  "resident_on": "OpaqueRef:bb0f833a-b400-4862-9d3f-07f15f34e0f8",
                  "progress": 1,
                  "type": "<none/>",
                  "result": "",
                  "error_info": [
                  "SR_BACKEND_FAILURE_1200",
                  "",
                  "",
                  ""
                  ],
                  "other_config": {},
                  "subtask_of": "OpaqueRef:NULL",
                  "subtasks": [],
                  "backtrace": "(((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename lib/backtrace.ml)(line 210))((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename ocaml/xapi/storage_access.ml)(line 31))((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename ocaml/xapi/xapi_vdi.ml)(line 683))((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename ocaml/xapi/message_forwarding.ml)(line 100))((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename lib/xapi-stdext-pervasives/pervasiveext.ml)(line 24))((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename ocaml/xapi/rbac.ml)(line 236))((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename ocaml/xapi/server_helpers.ml)(line 83)))"
                  },
                  "message": "SR_BACKEND_FAILURE_1200(, , )",
                  "name": "XapiError",
                  "stack": "XapiError: SR_BACKEND_FAILURE_1200(, , )
                  at Function.wrap (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/src/_XapiError.js:16:11)
                  at _default (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/src/_getTaskResult.js:11:28)
                  at Xapi._addRecordToCache (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/src/index.js:812:37)
                  at events.forEach.event (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/src/index.js:833:13)
                  at Array.forEach (<anonymous>)
                  at Xapi._processEvents (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/src/index.js:823:11)
                  at /xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/src/index.js:984:13
                  at Generator.next (<anonymous>)
                  at asyncGeneratorStep (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/dist/index.js:58:103)
                  at _next (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/dist/index.js:60:194)
                  at tryCatcher (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/util.js:16:23)
                  at Promise._settlePromiseFromHandler (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:547:31)
                  at Promise._settlePromise (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:604:18)
                  at Promise._settlePromise0 (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:649:10)
                  at Promise._settlePromises (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:729:18)
                  at _drainQueueStep (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:93:12)
                  at _drainQueue (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:86:9)
                  at Async._drainQueues (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:102:5)
                  at Immediate.Async.drainQueues (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:15:14)
                  at runCallback (timers.js:810:20)
                  at tryOnImmediate (timers.js:768:5)
                  at processImmediate [as _immediateCallback] (timers.js:745:5)"
                  }
                  
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                    robert wild
                    last edited by robert wild

                    got the command

                    xe vm-disk-list vm=(name or UUID)

                    im going to cross refernce it with this

                    xe vdi-list sr-uuid=$sr_uuid params=uuid managed=true

                    and any vdis that dont match im going to delete with

                    xe vdi-destroy

                    is this corect?

                    mmm... when i run a

                    xe vdi-list

                    i see i have a lot of base copies

                    what are they all about?

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                      robert wild
                      last edited by

                      ok Olivier

                      as XOA isnt working can i do it from the cli of xen, so -

                      xe vdi-destroy uuid=(uuid of orphaned vdi )

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                      • olivierlambertO Offline
                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                        last edited by

                        It's not XOA that's not working. XO is the client, sending commands to the host. You had a pretty clear error coming from the host, so the issue is there.

                        Also, please edit your post and use Markdown syntax please, otherwise it's hard to read.

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                          robert wild
                          last edited by

                          Hi Olivier, do i need to do this -

                          https://support.citrix.com/article/CTX214523

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                          • olivierlambertO Offline
                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                            last edited by

                            Why? How it's related? Have you cleaned the maximum number of VDIs?

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                              robert wild
                              last edited by

                              no...how do i do that Olivier

                              do you mean delete the orphan ones?

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                              • olivierlambertO Offline
                                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                last edited by

                                Yes, removing all possible orphaned VDIs

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                                  robert wild
                                  last edited by

                                  mmm... not looking good, got a problem with my backend SR...

                                  Jan 21 08:57:16 lon-p-xenserver01 SMGC: [6577] Found 2 orphaned vdis
                                  Jan 21 08:57:16 lon-p-xenserver01 SMGC: [6577] Found 2 VDIs for deletion:
                                  Jan 21 08:57:16 lon-p-xenserver01 SMGC: [6577]   *4c5de6b9[VHD](20.000G//192.000M|ao)
                                  Jan 21 08:57:16 lon-p-xenserver01 SMGC: [6577]   *98b10e9d[VHD](50.000G//9.445G|n)
                                  Jan 21 08:57:16 lon-p-xenserver01 SMGC: [6577] Deleting unlinked VDI *4c5de6b9[VHD](20.000G//192.000M|ao)
                                  Jan 21 08:57:16 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] lock: tried lock /var/lock/sm/0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/sr, acquired: True (exists: True)
                                  Jan 21 08:57:16 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] ['/sbin/lvremove', '-f', '/dev/VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653']
                                  Jan 21 08:57:21 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] FAILED in util.pread: (rc 5) stdout: '', stderr: '  /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory
                                  Jan 21 08:57:21 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.
                                  Jan 21 08:57:21 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   Logical volume VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653 in use.
                                  Jan 21 08:57:21 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] '
                                  Jan 21 08:57:21 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] *** lvremove failed on attempt #0
                                  Jan 21 08:57:21 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] ['/sbin/lvremove', '-f', '/dev/VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653']
                                  Jan 21 08:57:24 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [9438] sr_scan {'sr_uuid': 'e4497404-baa7-c26f-49b1-266fd1f89e5f', 'subtask_of': 'DummyRef:|26c1154f-1c31-4ff7-8455-7899be8018d9|SR.scan', 'args': [], 'host_ref': 'OpaqueRef:bb0f833a-b400-4862-9d3f-07f15f34e0f8', 'session_ref': 'OpaqueRef:a5cdddcc-1b39-4fe7-8de0-457e40783795', 'device_config': {'username': 'robert.wild.admin', 'vers': '3.0', 'cifspassword_secret': '8a5270fc-72ca-59aa-a71e-c8cd9dc91750', 'iso_path': '/engineering/xen/iso', 'location': '//10.110.130.101/mmfs1', 'type': 'cifs', 'SRmaster': 'true'}, 'command': 'sr_scan', 'sr_ref': 'OpaqueRef:88f40308-1653-4d3e-906b-c85de994844d'}
                                  Jan 21 08:57:25 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [9464] sr_update {'sr_uuid': 'e4497404-baa7-c26f-49b1-266fd1f89e5f', 'subtask_of': 'DummyRef:|d6f3febc-c434-446f-b152-8b226d935e8c|SR.stat', 'args': [], 'host_ref': 'OpaqueRef:bb0f833a-b400-4862-9d3f-07f15f34e0f8', 'session_ref': 'OpaqueRef:6355efbb-370e-4192-b69b-d7e529058db9', 'device_config': {'username': 'robert.wild.admin', 'vers': '3.0', 'cifspassword_secret': '8a5270fc-72ca-59aa-a71e-c8cd9dc91750', 'iso_path': '/engineering/xen/iso', 'location': '//10.110.130.101/mmfs1', 'type': 'cifs', 'SRmaster': 'true'}, 'command': 'sr_update', 'sr_ref': 'OpaqueRef:88f40308-1653-4d3e-906b-c85de994844d'}
                                  Jan 21 08:57:26 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] FAILED in util.pread: (rc 5) stdout: '', stderr: '  /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory
                                  Jan 21 08:57:26 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.
                                  Jan 21 08:57:26 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   Logical volume VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653 in use.
                                  Jan 21 08:57:26 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] '
                                  Jan 21 08:57:26 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] *** lvremove failed on attempt #1
                                  Jan 21 08:57:26 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] ['/sbin/lvremove', '-f', '/dev/VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653']
                                  Jan 21 08:57:31 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] FAILED in util.pread: (rc 5) stdout: '', stderr: '  /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory
                                  Jan 21 08:57:31 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.
                                  Jan 21 08:57:31 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   Logical volume VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653 in use.
                                  Jan 21 08:57:31 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] '
                                  Jan 21 08:57:31 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] *** lvremove failed on attempt #2
                                  Jan 21 08:57:31 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] ['/sbin/lvremove', '-f', '/dev/VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653']
                                  Jan 21 08:57:36 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] FAILED in util.pread: (rc 5) stdout: '', stderr: '  /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory
                                  Jan 21 08:57:36 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.
                                  Jan 21 08:57:36 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   Logical volume VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653 in use.
                                  Jan 21 08:57:36 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] '
                                  Jan 21 08:57:36 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] *** lvremove failed on attempt #3
                                  Jan 21 08:57:36 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] ['/sbin/lvremove', '-f', '/dev/VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653']
                                  Jan 21 08:57:41 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] FAILED in util.pread: (rc 5) stdout: '', stderr: '  /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory
                                  Jan 21 08:57:41 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.
                                  Jan 21 08:57:41 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   Logical volume VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653 in use.
                                  Jan 21 08:57:41 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] '
                                  Jan 21 08:57:41 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] *** lvremove failed on attempt #4
                                  Jan 21 08:57:41 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] ['/sbin/lvremove', '-f', '/dev/VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653']
                                  Jan 21 08:57:45 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] FAILED in util.pread: (rc 5) stdout: '', stderr: '  /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory
                                  Jan 21 08:57:45 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.
                                  Jan 21 08:57:45 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   Logical volume VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653 in use.
                                  Jan 21 08:57:45 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] '
                                  Jan 21 08:57:45 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] *** lvremove failed on attempt #5
                                  Jan 21 08:57:45 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] ['/sbin/lvremove', '-f', '/dev/VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653']
                                  Jan 21 08:57:50 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] FAILED in util.pread: (rc 5) stdout: '', stderr: '  /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory
                                  Jan 21 08:57:50 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.
                                  Jan 21 08:57:50 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   Logical volume VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653 in use.
                                  
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                                    robert wild
                                    last edited by

                                    great, seems a bug in XS 7.6 and im running it LOL

                                    https://github.com/xcp-ng/xcp/issues/104

                                    jaroslaw-freus created this issue in xcp-ng/xcp

                                    closed XCP-ng 7.6 /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed #104

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                                    • stormiS Offline
                                      stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @robert wild
                                      last edited by

                                      @robert-wild I'm not sure about that. See this comment https://github.com/xcp-ng/xcp/issues/104#issuecomment-449381556

                                      jaroslaw-freus created this issue in xcp-ng/xcp

                                      closed XCP-ng 7.6 /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed #104

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                                        robert wild
                                        last edited by

                                        so i know my continous backup replicas arnt happening because it cant do a coalesce any of my VDI's

                                        WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad

                                        so if i run this command in my xen server 7.6

                                        vgchange -a y --config global{metadata_read_only=0}

                                        the next time my xen server does an auto coalesce any of my VDI's, will it become good again?

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                                          robert wild
                                          last edited by

                                          think i have answered my own question -

                                          https://support.citrix.com/article/CTX207574?_ga=2.182110311.1347118359.1579810336-430666083.1579810336

                                          basically dom0 is protecting the source vdi until vbd operations complete but theres nothing to complete

                                          you think this is worth a shot

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                                          • olivierlambertO Offline
                                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                            last edited by

                                            This is already something visible in Xen Orchestra, in Dashboard/Health view, we exposed all VDI attached to a control domain, it's one click to solve it.

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