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    too many VDI/VHD per VM, how to get rid of unused ones

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    • R Offline
      robert wild @olivierlambert
      last edited by

      @olivierlambert your amazing Olivier, so I imagine I can delete all the orphaned vdi's

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      • olivierlambertO Offline
        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
        last edited by olivierlambert

        Yes, as long as you don't have intentionally left a VDI connected to no VM whatsoever, you can remove all of them.

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          robert wild
          last edited by

          im looking and i see no vms attached to the orphaned disks

          orphaned_disks.PNG

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          • olivierlambertO Offline
            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
            last edited by

            That's by definition why are they called "orphaned" 🙂 The question is: have you decided to disconnect some VDI of some VM by yourself or they just are here because they are leftover of some failed operations?

            I think that in your case, you can remove them all.

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              robert wild
              last edited by

              thanks Olivier because when i change the magnifying glass to "type:!VDI-unmanaged" i see under the VMs the actual live vm name and the backup vm so i think its safe to delete all the orphaned ones

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              • olivierlambertO Offline
                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                last edited by

                Yes, VDIs connected to a VM are by definition not orphaned. You don't want to remove those.

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                  robert wild
                  last edited by

                  just out of interest when i change the magnifying glass to "type:VDI-unmanaged"

                  it lists "base copy"

                  what are they?

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                  • olivierlambertO Offline
                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                    last edited by

                    They are the read only parent of a disk (when you do a snapshot, in fact it creates 3 disks: the base copy in read only, the new active disk and the snapshot).

                    If you remove the snapshot, then a coalesce will appear, to merge the active disk within the base copy, and get back to the initial state: 1 disk only.

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                      robert wild
                      last edited by

                      so can i delete the "type:VDI-snapshot"

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                        robert wild
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                        • olivierlambertO Offline
                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                          last edited by

                          1. Please edit your post and use Markdown syntax for code/error blocks
                          2. Rescan your SR and try again, at worst remove everything you can, leave it a while to coalesce and wait before trying to remove it again
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                            robert wild
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                            vdi.delete
                            {
                            "id": "1778c579-65a5-48b3-82df-9558a4f6ff7f"
                            }
                            {
                            "code": "SR_BACKEND_FAILURE_1200",
                            "params": [
                            "",
                            "",
                            ""
                            ],
                            "task": {
                            "uuid": "3c72bd9a-36ec-01da-b1b5-0b19468f4532",
                            "name_label": "Async.VDI.destroy",
                            "name_description": "",
                            "allowed_operations": [],
                            "current_operations": {},
                            "created": "20200120T19:23:41Z",
                            "finished": "20200120T19:23:50Z",
                            "status": "failure",
                            "resident_on": "OpaqueRef:bb0f833a-b400-4862-9d3f-07f15f34e0f8",
                            "progress": 1,
                            "type": "<none/>",
                            "result": "",
                            "error_info": [
                            "SR_BACKEND_FAILURE_1200",
                            "",
                            "",
                            ""
                            ],
                            "other_config": {},
                            "subtask_of": "OpaqueRef:NULL",
                            "subtasks": [],
                            "backtrace": "(((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename lib/backtrace.ml)(line 210))((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename ocaml/xapi/storage_access.ml)(line 31))((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename ocaml/xapi/xapi_vdi.ml)(line 683))((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename ocaml/xapi/message_forwarding.ml)(line 100))((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename lib/xapi-stdext-pervasives/pervasiveext.ml)(line 24))((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename ocaml/xapi/rbac.ml)(line 236))((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename ocaml/xapi/server_helpers.ml)(line 83)))"
                            },
                            "message": "SR_BACKEND_FAILURE_1200(, , )",
                            "name": "XapiError",
                            "stack": "XapiError: SR_BACKEND_FAILURE_1200(, , )
                            at Function.wrap (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/src/_XapiError.js:16:11)
                            at _default (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/src/_getTaskResult.js:11:28)
                            at Xapi._addRecordToCache (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/src/index.js:812:37)
                            at events.forEach.event (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/src/index.js:833:13)
                            at Array.forEach (<anonymous>)
                            at Xapi._processEvents (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/src/index.js:823:11)
                            at /xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/src/index.js:984:13
                            at Generator.next (<anonymous>)
                            at asyncGeneratorStep (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/dist/index.js:58:103)
                            at _next (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/dist/index.js:60:194)
                            at tryCatcher (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/util.js:16:23)
                            at Promise._settlePromiseFromHandler (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:547:31)
                            at Promise._settlePromise (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:604:18)
                            at Promise._settlePromise0 (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:649:10)
                            at Promise._settlePromises (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:729:18)
                            at _drainQueueStep (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:93:12)
                            at _drainQueue (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:86:9)
                            at Async._drainQueues (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:102:5)
                            at Immediate.Async.drainQueues (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:15:14)
                            at runCallback (timers.js:810:20)
                            at tryOnImmediate (timers.js:768:5)
                            at processImmediate [as _immediateCallback] (timers.js:745:5)"
                            }
                            
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                              robert wild
                              last edited by robert wild

                              got the command

                              xe vm-disk-list vm=(name or UUID)

                              im going to cross refernce it with this

                              xe vdi-list sr-uuid=$sr_uuid params=uuid managed=true

                              and any vdis that dont match im going to delete with

                              xe vdi-destroy

                              is this corect?

                              mmm... when i run a

                              xe vdi-list

                              i see i have a lot of base copies

                              what are they all about?

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                                robert wild
                                last edited by

                                ok Olivier

                                as XOA isnt working can i do it from the cli of xen, so -

                                xe vdi-destroy uuid=(uuid of orphaned vdi )

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                                • olivierlambertO Offline
                                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                  last edited by

                                  It's not XOA that's not working. XO is the client, sending commands to the host. You had a pretty clear error coming from the host, so the issue is there.

                                  Also, please edit your post and use Markdown syntax please, otherwise it's hard to read.

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                                    robert wild
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi Olivier, do i need to do this -

                                    https://support.citrix.com/article/CTX214523

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                                    • olivierlambertO Offline
                                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                      last edited by

                                      Why? How it's related? Have you cleaned the maximum number of VDIs?

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                                        robert wild
                                        last edited by

                                        no...how do i do that Olivier

                                        do you mean delete the orphan ones?

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                                        • olivierlambertO Offline
                                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                          last edited by

                                          Yes, removing all possible orphaned VDIs

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                                            robert wild
                                            last edited by

                                            mmm... not looking good, got a problem with my backend SR...

                                            Jan 21 08:57:16 lon-p-xenserver01 SMGC: [6577] Found 2 orphaned vdis
                                            Jan 21 08:57:16 lon-p-xenserver01 SMGC: [6577] Found 2 VDIs for deletion:
                                            Jan 21 08:57:16 lon-p-xenserver01 SMGC: [6577]   *4c5de6b9[VHD](20.000G//192.000M|ao)
                                            Jan 21 08:57:16 lon-p-xenserver01 SMGC: [6577]   *98b10e9d[VHD](50.000G//9.445G|n)
                                            Jan 21 08:57:16 lon-p-xenserver01 SMGC: [6577] Deleting unlinked VDI *4c5de6b9[VHD](20.000G//192.000M|ao)
                                            Jan 21 08:57:16 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] lock: tried lock /var/lock/sm/0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/sr, acquired: True (exists: True)
                                            Jan 21 08:57:16 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] ['/sbin/lvremove', '-f', '/dev/VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653']
                                            Jan 21 08:57:21 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] FAILED in util.pread: (rc 5) stdout: '', stderr: '  /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory
                                            Jan 21 08:57:21 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.
                                            Jan 21 08:57:21 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   Logical volume VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653 in use.
                                            Jan 21 08:57:21 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] '
                                            Jan 21 08:57:21 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] *** lvremove failed on attempt #0
                                            Jan 21 08:57:21 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] ['/sbin/lvremove', '-f', '/dev/VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653']
                                            Jan 21 08:57:24 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [9438] sr_scan {'sr_uuid': 'e4497404-baa7-c26f-49b1-266fd1f89e5f', 'subtask_of': 'DummyRef:|26c1154f-1c31-4ff7-8455-7899be8018d9|SR.scan', 'args': [], 'host_ref': 'OpaqueRef:bb0f833a-b400-4862-9d3f-07f15f34e0f8', 'session_ref': 'OpaqueRef:a5cdddcc-1b39-4fe7-8de0-457e40783795', 'device_config': {'username': 'robert.wild.admin', 'vers': '3.0', 'cifspassword_secret': '8a5270fc-72ca-59aa-a71e-c8cd9dc91750', 'iso_path': '/engineering/xen/iso', 'location': '//10.110.130.101/mmfs1', 'type': 'cifs', 'SRmaster': 'true'}, 'command': 'sr_scan', 'sr_ref': 'OpaqueRef:88f40308-1653-4d3e-906b-c85de994844d'}
                                            Jan 21 08:57:25 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [9464] sr_update {'sr_uuid': 'e4497404-baa7-c26f-49b1-266fd1f89e5f', 'subtask_of': 'DummyRef:|d6f3febc-c434-446f-b152-8b226d935e8c|SR.stat', 'args': [], 'host_ref': 'OpaqueRef:bb0f833a-b400-4862-9d3f-07f15f34e0f8', 'session_ref': 'OpaqueRef:6355efbb-370e-4192-b69b-d7e529058db9', 'device_config': {'username': 'robert.wild.admin', 'vers': '3.0', 'cifspassword_secret': '8a5270fc-72ca-59aa-a71e-c8cd9dc91750', 'iso_path': '/engineering/xen/iso', 'location': '//10.110.130.101/mmfs1', 'type': 'cifs', 'SRmaster': 'true'}, 'command': 'sr_update', 'sr_ref': 'OpaqueRef:88f40308-1653-4d3e-906b-c85de994844d'}
                                            Jan 21 08:57:26 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] FAILED in util.pread: (rc 5) stdout: '', stderr: '  /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory
                                            Jan 21 08:57:26 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.
                                            Jan 21 08:57:26 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   Logical volume VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653 in use.
                                            Jan 21 08:57:26 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] '
                                            Jan 21 08:57:26 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] *** lvremove failed on attempt #1
                                            Jan 21 08:57:26 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] ['/sbin/lvremove', '-f', '/dev/VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653']
                                            Jan 21 08:57:31 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] FAILED in util.pread: (rc 5) stdout: '', stderr: '  /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory
                                            Jan 21 08:57:31 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.
                                            Jan 21 08:57:31 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   Logical volume VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653 in use.
                                            Jan 21 08:57:31 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] '
                                            Jan 21 08:57:31 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] *** lvremove failed on attempt #2
                                            Jan 21 08:57:31 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] ['/sbin/lvremove', '-f', '/dev/VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653']
                                            Jan 21 08:57:36 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] FAILED in util.pread: (rc 5) stdout: '', stderr: '  /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory
                                            Jan 21 08:57:36 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.
                                            Jan 21 08:57:36 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   Logical volume VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653 in use.
                                            Jan 21 08:57:36 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] '
                                            Jan 21 08:57:36 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] *** lvremove failed on attempt #3
                                            Jan 21 08:57:36 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] ['/sbin/lvremove', '-f', '/dev/VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653']
                                            Jan 21 08:57:41 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] FAILED in util.pread: (rc 5) stdout: '', stderr: '  /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory
                                            Jan 21 08:57:41 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.
                                            Jan 21 08:57:41 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   Logical volume VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653 in use.
                                            Jan 21 08:57:41 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] '
                                            Jan 21 08:57:41 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] *** lvremove failed on attempt #4
                                            Jan 21 08:57:41 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] ['/sbin/lvremove', '-f', '/dev/VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653']
                                            Jan 21 08:57:45 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] FAILED in util.pread: (rc 5) stdout: '', stderr: '  /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory
                                            Jan 21 08:57:45 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.
                                            Jan 21 08:57:45 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   Logical volume VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653 in use.
                                            Jan 21 08:57:45 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] '
                                            Jan 21 08:57:45 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] *** lvremove failed on attempt #5
                                            Jan 21 08:57:45 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] ['/sbin/lvremove', '-f', '/dev/VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653']
                                            Jan 21 08:57:50 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] FAILED in util.pread: (rc 5) stdout: '', stderr: '  /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory
                                            Jan 21 08:57:50 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.
                                            Jan 21 08:57:50 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   Logical volume VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653 in use.
                                            
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