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    • borzelB Offline
      borzel XCP-ng Center Team
      last edited by borzel

      After reading some, I think we can not get it fully working in short time. Some of the tools might not work without o_direct support:

      If the underlying file-system does not support O_DIRECT, utilities (e.g, vhd-util) may fail with error code 22 (EINVAL). Similarly, Xen may fail with a message as follows:
      TapdiskException: ('create', '-avhd:/home/cklein/vms/vm-rubis-0/root.vhd') failed (5632 )

      https://github.com/xapi-project/blktap/blob/master/README


      Today there is just one fully working local ZFS configuration:

      • create your ZFS-Pool: zpool create ...
      • create a ZVOL (aka blockdevice): zfs create -V 50G pool/my_local_sr
      • create an EXT3 based SR: xe sr-create host-uuid=<UUID_of_your_host> type=ext shared=false name-label=<Name_of_my_SR> device-config:device=/dev/zvol/<pool-name>/<zvol-name>

      It's not optimal, but working.

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      • nraynaudN Offline
        nraynaud XCP-ng Team
        last edited by

        I am working on the issue right now. I am trying to exactly nail the problem.
        there are 2 cases:

        • xe vdi-copy from another SR to a ZFS SR doesn't work
        • xe vdi-copy on the same SR doesn't work.

        I that a complete assessment of the issues you found?

        A cursory test seems to show that ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} sed -i.bak 's/# unbuffered = true/unbuffered = false/' /etc/sparse_dd.conf solves the issue of intra-ZFS copies, but I am still confirming that I have not done anything else on my test box.

        Thanks,
        Nicolas.

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        • borzelB Offline
          borzel XCP-ng Center Team
          last edited by borzel

          @nraynaud said in Testing ZFS with XCP-ng:

          xe vdi-copy from another SR to a ZFS SR doesn't work
          xe vdi-copy on the same SR doesn't work.

          Yes 🙂

          Additional to that the copy from ZFS SR to another SR is not working.

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          • nraynaudN Offline
            nraynaud XCP-ng Team
            last edited by

            ok, I really think changing /etc/sparse_dd.conf is the right path.

            #!/usr/bin/env bash
            
            # HOW TO create the passthrough: xe sr-create name-label="sda passthrough" name-description="Block devices" type=udev content-type=disk device-config:location=/dev/sda host-uuid=77b3f6ad-020b-4e48-b090-74b2a26c4f69
            
            set -ex
            
            MASTER_HOST=root@192.168.100.1
            PASSTHROUGH_VDI=a74d267e-bb14-4732-bd80-b9c445199e8a
            
            SNAPSHOT_UUID=19d3758e-eb21-f237-b8f7-6e2f638cc8e0
            VM_HOST_UNDER_TEST_UUID=13ec74c2-9b57-a327-962f-1ebd9702eec4
            XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST_UUID=05c61e28-11cf-4131-b645-a0be7637c044
            XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST_IP=192.168.100.151
            XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST=root@${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST_IP}
            
            INCEPTION_VM_UUID=a7e37541-fb9a-4392-6b54-60cf7ce3d08a
            INCEPTION_VM_IP=192.168.100.32
            INCEPTION_VM=root@${INCEPTION_VM_IP}
            
            ssh ${MASTER_HOST} xe snapshot-revert snapshot-uuid=${SNAPSHOT_UUID}
            NEW_VBD=`ssh ${MASTER_HOST} xe vbd-create device=1 type=Disk mode=RW vm-uuid=${VM_HOST_UNDER_TEST_UUID} vdi-uuid=${PASSTHROUGH_VDI}`
            ssh ${MASTER_HOST} xe vm-start vm=${VM_HOST_UNDER_TEST_UUID}
            until ping -c1 ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST_IP} &>/dev/null; do :; done
            sleep 20
            
            # try EXT3
            ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} 'mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb2 && echo /dev/sdb2 /mnt/ext3 ext3 >>/etc/fstab && mkdir -p /mnt/ext3 && mount /dev/sdb2 && df'
            SR_EXT3_UUID=`ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} "xe sr-create host-uuid=${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST_UUID} name-label=test-ext3-sr type=file other-config:o_direct=false device-config:location=/mnt/ext3/test-ext3-sr"`
            TEST_EXT3_VDI=`ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} xe vdi-create sr-uuid=${SR_EXT3_UUID} name-label=test-ext3-vdi virtual-size=214748364800`
            TEST_VBD=`ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} xe vbd-create device=1 type=Disk mode=RW vm-uuid=${INCEPTION_VM_UUID} vdi-uuid=${TEST_EXT3_VDI}`
            
            
            ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} reboot || true
            sleep 20
            until ping -c1 ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST_IP} &>/dev/null; do :; done
            sleep 20
            
            ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} xe vm-start vm=${INCEPTION_VM_UUID} on=${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST_UUID}
            sleep 2
            until ping -c1 ${INCEPTION_VM_IP} &>/dev/null; do :; done
            sleep 20
            ssh ${INCEPTION_VM} echo FROM BENCH
            ssh ${INCEPTION_VM} 'apk add gcc zlib-dev libaio libaio-dev make linux-headers git binutils musl-dev; git clone https://github.com/axboe/fio fio; cd fio; ./configure && make&& make install'
            ssh ${INCEPTION_VM} 'mkfs.ext3 /dev/xvdb && mount /dev/xvdb /mnt;df'
            ssh ${INCEPTION_VM} 'cd /mnt;sync;/usr/local/bin/fio --name=randwrite --ioengine=libaio --iodepth=1 --rw=write --bs=4k --direct=1 --size=512M --numjobs=2 --runtime=30 --group_reporting' > ext3_write_result
            ssh ${INCEPTION_VM} 'cd /mnt;sync;/usr/local/bin/fio --name=randwrite --ioengine=libaio --iodepth=1 --rw=write --bs=4k --direct=1 --size=512M --numjobs=2 --runtime=30 --group_reporting' >> ext3_write_result
            ssh ${INCEPTION_VM} 'cd /mnt;sync;/usr/local/bin/fio --name=randwrite --ioengine=libaio --iodepth=1 --rw=read --bs=4k --direct=1 --size=512M --numjobs=2 --runtime=30 --group_reporting' > ext3_read_result
            ssh ${INCEPTION_VM} 'cd /mnt;sync;/usr/local/bin/fio --name=randwrite --ioengine=libaio --iodepth=1 --rw=read --bs=4k --direct=1 --size=512M --numjobs=2 --runtime=30 --group_reporting' >> ext3_read_result
            ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} xe vm-shutdown uuid=${INCEPTION_VM_UUID}
            
            # try ZFS
            # install binaries that don't use O_DIRECT
            rsync -r zfs ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST}:
            scp /Users/nraynaud/dev/xenserver-build-env/blktap-3.5.0-1.12test.x86_64.rpm ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST}:
            ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} yum remove -y blktap
            ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} yum install -y blktap-3.5.0-1.12test.x86_64.rpm
            ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} yum install -y zfs/*.rpm
            ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} depmod -a
            ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} modprobe zfs
            ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} zpool create -f -m /mnt/zfs tank /dev/sdb1
            ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} zfs set sync=disabled tank
            ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} zfs set compression=lz4 tank
            ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} zfs list
            
            
            SR_ZFS_UUID=`ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} "xe sr-create host-uuid=${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST_UUID} name-label=test-zfs-sr type=file other-config:o_direct=false device-config:location=/mnt/zfs/test-zfs-sr"`
            TEST_ZFS_VDI=`ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} xe vdi-create sr-uuid=${SR_ZFS_UUID} name-label=test-zfs-vdi virtual-size=214748364800`
            # this line avoids O_DIRECT in reads
            ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} "sed -i.bak 's/# unbuffered = true/unbuffered = false/' /etc/sparse_dd.conf"
            # try various clone situations
            ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} xe vdi-copy uuid=${TEST_ZFS_VDI} sr-uuid=${SR_ZFS_UUID}
            ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} xe vdi-copy uuid=${TEST_ZFS_VDI} sr-uuid=${SR_EXT3_UUID}
            ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} xe vdi-copy uuid=${TEST_EXT3_VDI} sr-uuid=${SR_ZFS_UUID}
            

            this script complete to the end without error.

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            • nraynaudN Offline
              nraynaud XCP-ng Team
              last edited by

              If other people can reproduce my results, I propose to directly change the parameter in the XCP-ng distribution RPM.

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              • olivierlambertO Offline
                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                last edited by

                Your package is experimental, so feel free to add the modification inside it 🙂

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                • borzelB Offline
                  borzel XCP-ng Center Team @nraynaud
                  last edited by borzel

                  @nraynaud said in Testing ZFS with XCP-ng:

                  If other people can reproduce my results

                  with the change in /etc/sparse_dd.conf I can copy my VMs from:

                  • EXT3 -> ZFS
                  • ZFS -> ZFS
                  • ZFS -> EXT3

                  Yeha! 🙂

                  Thanks for your work!

                  By the way, my XCP-ng replication host at work is working just fine with ZFS-SR. All stable like ZFS should be.

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                  • olivierlambertO Offline
                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                    last edited by

                    Yay!! Thanks for testing 🙂

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                    • E Offline
                      eexodus
                      last edited by eexodus

                      I have a clean install of 7.5 and I'm following the guide on the wiki but can't install zfs-test or enable the zfs module:

                      [root@xcp-ng-endlqfgb ~]# yum install --enablerepo="xcp-ng-extras" zfs-test
                      Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
                      Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
                      Resolving Dependencies
                      --> Running transaction check
                      ---> Package zfs-test.x86_64 0:0.7.9-1.el7.centos will be installed
                      --> Processing Dependency: lsscsi for package: zfs-test-0.7.9-1.el7.centos.x86_64
                      --> Processing Dependency: ksh for package: zfs-test-0.7.9-1.el7.centos.x86_64
                      --> Processing Dependency: fio for package: zfs-test-0.7.9-1.el7.centos.x86_64
                      --> Processing Dependency: rng-tools for package: zfs-test-0.7.9-1.el7.centos.x86_64
                      --> Finished Dependency Resolution
                      Error: Package: zfs-test-0.7.9-1.el7.centos.x86_64 (xcp-ng-extras)
                                 Requires: fio
                      Error: Package: zfs-test-0.7.9-1.el7.centos.x86_64 (xcp-ng-extras)
                                 Requires: lsscsi
                      Error: Package: zfs-test-0.7.9-1.el7.centos.x86_64 (xcp-ng-extras)
                                 Requires: rng-tools
                      Error: Package: zfs-test-0.7.9-1.el7.centos.x86_64 (xcp-ng-extras)
                                 Requires: ksh
                       You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
                       You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
                      [root@xcp-ng-endlqfgb ~]# zpool create tank /dev/sdb
                      The ZFS modules are not loaded.
                      Try running '/sbin/modprobe zfs' as root to load them.
                      [root@xcp-ng-endlqfgb ~]# /sbin/modprobe zfs
                      modprobe: FATAL: Module zfs not found.
                      [root@xcp-ng-endlqfgb ~]#
                      
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                      • olivierlambertO Offline
                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                        last edited by

                        @stormi this is for you 🙂

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                        • stormiS Offline
                          stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
                          last edited by

                          I knew we shouldn't have released on a Friday just before my holidays 🙂

                          XCP-ng community, note that I do that for you!

                          To answer the question, the zfs-tests package is not strictly needed so let's not install it (it pulls too many dependencies that we would have to add. We can consider making it installable later.). We forgot to add some steps in the procedure. We have updated it now.

                          If you run:
                          depmod -a

                          Then you should be able to run
                          modprobe zfs

                          This should bring you at least a step further.

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                          • borzelB Offline
                            borzel XCP-ng Center Team
                            last edited by

                            @eexodus If it's not working, we can chat to troubleshoot your issue 📰

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                            • stormiS Offline
                              stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @borzel
                              last edited by

                              @borzel It would be nice also to improve https://github.com/xcp-ng/xcp/wiki/ZFS-on-XCP-ng-7.5-and-later because I wrote it and I never used zfs!

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                                eexodus
                                last edited by eexodus

                                @stormi @borzel Thank you. I was able to create the zpool with those two extra commands. I then created a dataset and created a type=file and device-config:location SR. I realize ZFS is still a new feature, but is that the recommended way? I'm completely new to Xen so I am not familiar with creating SRs.

                                [root@xcp-ng-miqfcsgc] depmod -a
                                [root@xcp-ng-miqfcsgc] modprobe zfs
                                [root@xcp-ng-miqfcsgc] zpool create -f tank /dev/sda
                                [root@xcp-ng-miqfcsgc] zfs create tank/sr
                                [root@xcp-ng-miqfcsgc] xe sr-create host-uuid=MY_UUID name-label=zfs-sr type=file other-config:o_direct=false device-config:location=/tank/sr/zfs-sr
                                
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                                • borzelB Offline
                                  borzel XCP-ng Center Team
                                  last edited by

                                  @eexodus said in Testing ZFS with XCP-ng:

                                  zpool create -f tank /dev/sda

                                  If you have 4k disks (aka Advanced Format) use ashift=12

                                  zpool create -o ashift=12 -f tank /dev/sda
                                  

                                  I would say, for the first testing, please use:

                                  zfs set sync=disabled tank
                                  zfs set compress=lz4 tank
                                  zfs set atime=off tank
                                  

                                  pool/discs can be live monitored with

                                  zpool iostat -v 1
                                  
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                                    AllooTikeeChaat @borzel
                                    last edited by

                                    @borzel Not sure if this thread is the right place to ask .. but whats the min and recommended requirements to test ZFS ?

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                                    • olivierlambertO Offline
                                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                      last edited by

                                      Well, depends on the level of perfs you want to achieve. A lot of RAM is the key.

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                                      • borzelB Offline
                                        borzel XCP-ng Center Team @olivierlambert
                                        last edited by

                                        @olivierlambert said in Testing ZFS with XCP-ng:

                                        A lot of RAM is the key.

                                        And if you want more performance, add more RAM 🙂

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                                        • borzelB Offline
                                          borzel XCP-ng Center Team @stormi
                                          last edited by

                                          @stormi said in Testing ZFS with XCP-ng:

                                          @borzel It would be nice also to improve https://github.com/xcp-ng/xcp/wiki/ZFS-on-XCP-ng-7.5-and-later because I wrote it and I never used zfs!

                                          I have no write permissions 😐

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                                          • borzelB Offline
                                            borzel XCP-ng Center Team
                                            last edited by borzel

                                            Good ressource with a lot of information, how to really use ZFS, build storages, tuning, etc.: https://www.zfsbuild.com 📰

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