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    • borzelB Offline
      borzel XCP-ng Center Team
      last edited by

      some info about the o_direct flag: https://xenserver.org/blog/entry/read-caching.html

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      • borzelB Offline
        borzel XCP-ng Center Team
        last edited by borzel

        After reading some, I think we can not get it fully working in short time. Some of the tools might not work without o_direct support:

        If the underlying file-system does not support O_DIRECT, utilities (e.g, vhd-util) may fail with error code 22 (EINVAL). Similarly, Xen may fail with a message as follows:
        TapdiskException: ('create', '-avhd:/home/cklein/vms/vm-rubis-0/root.vhd') failed (5632 )

        https://github.com/xapi-project/blktap/blob/master/README


        Today there is just one fully working local ZFS configuration:

        • create your ZFS-Pool: zpool create ...
        • create a ZVOL (aka blockdevice): zfs create -V 50G pool/my_local_sr
        • create an EXT3 based SR: xe sr-create host-uuid=<UUID_of_your_host> type=ext shared=false name-label=<Name_of_my_SR> device-config:device=/dev/zvol/<pool-name>/<zvol-name>

        It's not optimal, but working.

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        • nraynaudN Offline
          nraynaud XCP-ng Team
          last edited by

          I am working on the issue right now. I am trying to exactly nail the problem.
          there are 2 cases:

          • xe vdi-copy from another SR to a ZFS SR doesn't work
          • xe vdi-copy on the same SR doesn't work.

          I that a complete assessment of the issues you found?

          A cursory test seems to show that ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} sed -i.bak 's/# unbuffered = true/unbuffered = false/' /etc/sparse_dd.conf solves the issue of intra-ZFS copies, but I am still confirming that I have not done anything else on my test box.

          Thanks,
          Nicolas.

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          • borzelB Offline
            borzel XCP-ng Center Team
            last edited by borzel

            @nraynaud said in Testing ZFS with XCP-ng:

            xe vdi-copy from another SR to a ZFS SR doesn't work
            xe vdi-copy on the same SR doesn't work.

            Yes 🙂

            Additional to that the copy from ZFS SR to another SR is not working.

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            • nraynaudN Offline
              nraynaud XCP-ng Team
              last edited by

              ok, I really think changing /etc/sparse_dd.conf is the right path.

              #!/usr/bin/env bash
              
              # HOW TO create the passthrough: xe sr-create name-label="sda passthrough" name-description="Block devices" type=udev content-type=disk device-config:location=/dev/sda host-uuid=77b3f6ad-020b-4e48-b090-74b2a26c4f69
              
              set -ex
              
              MASTER_HOST=root@192.168.100.1
              PASSTHROUGH_VDI=a74d267e-bb14-4732-bd80-b9c445199e8a
              
              SNAPSHOT_UUID=19d3758e-eb21-f237-b8f7-6e2f638cc8e0
              VM_HOST_UNDER_TEST_UUID=13ec74c2-9b57-a327-962f-1ebd9702eec4
              XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST_UUID=05c61e28-11cf-4131-b645-a0be7637c044
              XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST_IP=192.168.100.151
              XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST=root@${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST_IP}
              
              INCEPTION_VM_UUID=a7e37541-fb9a-4392-6b54-60cf7ce3d08a
              INCEPTION_VM_IP=192.168.100.32
              INCEPTION_VM=root@${INCEPTION_VM_IP}
              
              ssh ${MASTER_HOST} xe snapshot-revert snapshot-uuid=${SNAPSHOT_UUID}
              NEW_VBD=`ssh ${MASTER_HOST} xe vbd-create device=1 type=Disk mode=RW vm-uuid=${VM_HOST_UNDER_TEST_UUID} vdi-uuid=${PASSTHROUGH_VDI}`
              ssh ${MASTER_HOST} xe vm-start vm=${VM_HOST_UNDER_TEST_UUID}
              until ping -c1 ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST_IP} &>/dev/null; do :; done
              sleep 20
              
              # try EXT3
              ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} 'mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb2 && echo /dev/sdb2 /mnt/ext3 ext3 >>/etc/fstab && mkdir -p /mnt/ext3 && mount /dev/sdb2 && df'
              SR_EXT3_UUID=`ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} "xe sr-create host-uuid=${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST_UUID} name-label=test-ext3-sr type=file other-config:o_direct=false device-config:location=/mnt/ext3/test-ext3-sr"`
              TEST_EXT3_VDI=`ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} xe vdi-create sr-uuid=${SR_EXT3_UUID} name-label=test-ext3-vdi virtual-size=214748364800`
              TEST_VBD=`ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} xe vbd-create device=1 type=Disk mode=RW vm-uuid=${INCEPTION_VM_UUID} vdi-uuid=${TEST_EXT3_VDI}`
              
              
              ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} reboot || true
              sleep 20
              until ping -c1 ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST_IP} &>/dev/null; do :; done
              sleep 20
              
              ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} xe vm-start vm=${INCEPTION_VM_UUID} on=${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST_UUID}
              sleep 2
              until ping -c1 ${INCEPTION_VM_IP} &>/dev/null; do :; done
              sleep 20
              ssh ${INCEPTION_VM} echo FROM BENCH
              ssh ${INCEPTION_VM} 'apk add gcc zlib-dev libaio libaio-dev make linux-headers git binutils musl-dev; git clone https://github.com/axboe/fio fio; cd fio; ./configure && make&& make install'
              ssh ${INCEPTION_VM} 'mkfs.ext3 /dev/xvdb && mount /dev/xvdb /mnt;df'
              ssh ${INCEPTION_VM} 'cd /mnt;sync;/usr/local/bin/fio --name=randwrite --ioengine=libaio --iodepth=1 --rw=write --bs=4k --direct=1 --size=512M --numjobs=2 --runtime=30 --group_reporting' > ext3_write_result
              ssh ${INCEPTION_VM} 'cd /mnt;sync;/usr/local/bin/fio --name=randwrite --ioengine=libaio --iodepth=1 --rw=write --bs=4k --direct=1 --size=512M --numjobs=2 --runtime=30 --group_reporting' >> ext3_write_result
              ssh ${INCEPTION_VM} 'cd /mnt;sync;/usr/local/bin/fio --name=randwrite --ioengine=libaio --iodepth=1 --rw=read --bs=4k --direct=1 --size=512M --numjobs=2 --runtime=30 --group_reporting' > ext3_read_result
              ssh ${INCEPTION_VM} 'cd /mnt;sync;/usr/local/bin/fio --name=randwrite --ioengine=libaio --iodepth=1 --rw=read --bs=4k --direct=1 --size=512M --numjobs=2 --runtime=30 --group_reporting' >> ext3_read_result
              ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} xe vm-shutdown uuid=${INCEPTION_VM_UUID}
              
              # try ZFS
              # install binaries that don't use O_DIRECT
              rsync -r zfs ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST}:
              scp /Users/nraynaud/dev/xenserver-build-env/blktap-3.5.0-1.12test.x86_64.rpm ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST}:
              ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} yum remove -y blktap
              ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} yum install -y blktap-3.5.0-1.12test.x86_64.rpm
              ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} yum install -y zfs/*.rpm
              ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} depmod -a
              ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} modprobe zfs
              ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} zpool create -f -m /mnt/zfs tank /dev/sdb1
              ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} zfs set sync=disabled tank
              ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} zfs set compression=lz4 tank
              ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} zfs list
              
              
              SR_ZFS_UUID=`ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} "xe sr-create host-uuid=${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST_UUID} name-label=test-zfs-sr type=file other-config:o_direct=false device-config:location=/mnt/zfs/test-zfs-sr"`
              TEST_ZFS_VDI=`ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} xe vdi-create sr-uuid=${SR_ZFS_UUID} name-label=test-zfs-vdi virtual-size=214748364800`
              # this line avoids O_DIRECT in reads
              ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} "sed -i.bak 's/# unbuffered = true/unbuffered = false/' /etc/sparse_dd.conf"
              # try various clone situations
              ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} xe vdi-copy uuid=${TEST_ZFS_VDI} sr-uuid=${SR_ZFS_UUID}
              ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} xe vdi-copy uuid=${TEST_ZFS_VDI} sr-uuid=${SR_EXT3_UUID}
              ssh ${XCP_HOST_UNDER_TEST} xe vdi-copy uuid=${TEST_EXT3_VDI} sr-uuid=${SR_ZFS_UUID}
              

              this script complete to the end without error.

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              • nraynaudN Offline
                nraynaud XCP-ng Team
                last edited by

                If other people can reproduce my results, I propose to directly change the parameter in the XCP-ng distribution RPM.

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                • olivierlambertO Offline
                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                  last edited by

                  Your package is experimental, so feel free to add the modification inside it 🙂

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                  • borzelB Offline
                    borzel XCP-ng Center Team @nraynaud
                    last edited by borzel

                    @nraynaud said in Testing ZFS with XCP-ng:

                    If other people can reproduce my results

                    with the change in /etc/sparse_dd.conf I can copy my VMs from:

                    • EXT3 -> ZFS
                    • ZFS -> ZFS
                    • ZFS -> EXT3

                    Yeha! 🙂

                    Thanks for your work!

                    By the way, my XCP-ng replication host at work is working just fine with ZFS-SR. All stable like ZFS should be.

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                    • olivierlambertO Offline
                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                      last edited by

                      Yay!! Thanks for testing 🙂

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                      • E Offline
                        eexodus
                        last edited by eexodus

                        I have a clean install of 7.5 and I'm following the guide on the wiki but can't install zfs-test or enable the zfs module:

                        [root@xcp-ng-endlqfgb ~]# yum install --enablerepo="xcp-ng-extras" zfs-test
                        Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
                        Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
                        Resolving Dependencies
                        --> Running transaction check
                        ---> Package zfs-test.x86_64 0:0.7.9-1.el7.centos will be installed
                        --> Processing Dependency: lsscsi for package: zfs-test-0.7.9-1.el7.centos.x86_64
                        --> Processing Dependency: ksh for package: zfs-test-0.7.9-1.el7.centos.x86_64
                        --> Processing Dependency: fio for package: zfs-test-0.7.9-1.el7.centos.x86_64
                        --> Processing Dependency: rng-tools for package: zfs-test-0.7.9-1.el7.centos.x86_64
                        --> Finished Dependency Resolution
                        Error: Package: zfs-test-0.7.9-1.el7.centos.x86_64 (xcp-ng-extras)
                                   Requires: fio
                        Error: Package: zfs-test-0.7.9-1.el7.centos.x86_64 (xcp-ng-extras)
                                   Requires: lsscsi
                        Error: Package: zfs-test-0.7.9-1.el7.centos.x86_64 (xcp-ng-extras)
                                   Requires: rng-tools
                        Error: Package: zfs-test-0.7.9-1.el7.centos.x86_64 (xcp-ng-extras)
                                   Requires: ksh
                         You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
                         You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
                        [root@xcp-ng-endlqfgb ~]# zpool create tank /dev/sdb
                        The ZFS modules are not loaded.
                        Try running '/sbin/modprobe zfs' as root to load them.
                        [root@xcp-ng-endlqfgb ~]# /sbin/modprobe zfs
                        modprobe: FATAL: Module zfs not found.
                        [root@xcp-ng-endlqfgb ~]#
                        
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                        • olivierlambertO Offline
                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                          last edited by

                          @stormi this is for you 🙂

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                          • stormiS Offline
                            stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
                            last edited by

                            I knew we shouldn't have released on a Friday just before my holidays 🙂

                            XCP-ng community, note that I do that for you!

                            To answer the question, the zfs-tests package is not strictly needed so let's not install it (it pulls too many dependencies that we would have to add. We can consider making it installable later.). We forgot to add some steps in the procedure. We have updated it now.

                            If you run:
                            depmod -a

                            Then you should be able to run
                            modprobe zfs

                            This should bring you at least a step further.

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                            • borzelB Offline
                              borzel XCP-ng Center Team
                              last edited by

                              @eexodus If it's not working, we can chat to troubleshoot your issue 📰

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                                stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @borzel
                                last edited by

                                @borzel It would be nice also to improve https://github.com/xcp-ng/xcp/wiki/ZFS-on-XCP-ng-7.5-and-later because I wrote it and I never used zfs!

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                                  eexodus
                                  last edited by eexodus

                                  @stormi @borzel Thank you. I was able to create the zpool with those two extra commands. I then created a dataset and created a type=file and device-config:location SR. I realize ZFS is still a new feature, but is that the recommended way? I'm completely new to Xen so I am not familiar with creating SRs.

                                  [root@xcp-ng-miqfcsgc] depmod -a
                                  [root@xcp-ng-miqfcsgc] modprobe zfs
                                  [root@xcp-ng-miqfcsgc] zpool create -f tank /dev/sda
                                  [root@xcp-ng-miqfcsgc] zfs create tank/sr
                                  [root@xcp-ng-miqfcsgc] xe sr-create host-uuid=MY_UUID name-label=zfs-sr type=file other-config:o_direct=false device-config:location=/tank/sr/zfs-sr
                                  
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                                  • borzelB Offline
                                    borzel XCP-ng Center Team
                                    last edited by

                                    @eexodus said in Testing ZFS with XCP-ng:

                                    zpool create -f tank /dev/sda

                                    If you have 4k disks (aka Advanced Format) use ashift=12

                                    zpool create -o ashift=12 -f tank /dev/sda
                                    

                                    I would say, for the first testing, please use:

                                    zfs set sync=disabled tank
                                    zfs set compress=lz4 tank
                                    zfs set atime=off tank
                                    

                                    pool/discs can be live monitored with

                                    zpool iostat -v 1
                                    
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                                      AllooTikeeChaat @borzel
                                      last edited by

                                      @borzel Not sure if this thread is the right place to ask .. but whats the min and recommended requirements to test ZFS ?

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                                      • olivierlambertO Offline
                                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                        last edited by

                                        Well, depends on the level of perfs you want to achieve. A lot of RAM is the key.

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                                          borzel XCP-ng Center Team @olivierlambert
                                          last edited by

                                          @olivierlambert said in Testing ZFS with XCP-ng:

                                          A lot of RAM is the key.

                                          And if you want more performance, add more RAM 🙂

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                                            borzel XCP-ng Center Team @stormi
                                            last edited by

                                            @stormi said in Testing ZFS with XCP-ng:

                                            @borzel It would be nice also to improve https://github.com/xcp-ng/xcp/wiki/ZFS-on-XCP-ng-7.5-and-later because I wrote it and I never used zfs!

                                            I have no write permissions 😐

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