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      rRobbie @olivierlambert
      last edited by rRobbie

      @olivierlambert said in XCP-ng 8.3 public alpha 🚀:

      xe-toolstack-restart

      Done and it worked 😊 now all the VMs are displayed.

      [21:24 xcp-ng-1 ~]# xe-toolstack-restart
      Executing xe-toolstack-restart
      done.
      

      Screenshot from 2023-04-02 21-26-50.png

      FYI vm154 memory is now reported.

      [21:24 xcp-ng-1 ~]# xe vm-param-list uuid=487b34dd-9437-8c4f-cc90-3c6b28c29e3b
      uuid ( RO)                                  : 487b34dd-9437-8c4f-cc90-3c6b28c29e3b
                                  name-label ( RW): vm154
                            name-description ( RW): Ubuntu Docker: Cloudflare Tunnel, NextCloud
                                user-version ( RW): 1
                               is-a-template ( RW): false
                         is-default-template ( RW): false
                               is-a-snapshot ( RO): false
                                 snapshot-of ( RO): <not in database>
                                   snapshots ( RO): d231f5cc-4cba-e51e-41ea-7e0ac7264faa; 2001da2e-4107-6863-6bfa-b188ebf12a74; 63cc7899-db54-548e-7b3a-a9d4c3a93957; 8c2c78bb-a3b5-4010-eda3-dcd3c48b3128
                               snapshot-time ( RO): 19700101T00:00:00Z
                               snapshot-info ( RO): 
                                      parent ( RO): 2001da2e-4107-6863-6bfa-b188ebf12a74
                                    children ( RO): 
                           is-control-domain ( RO): false
                                 power-state ( RO): running
                               memory-actual ( RO): 2147483648
                               memory-target ( RO): 2147483648
                             memory-overhead ( RO): 20971520
                           memory-static-max ( RW): 2147483648
                          memory-dynamic-max ( RW): 2147483648
                          memory-dynamic-min ( RW): 2147483648
                           memory-static-min ( RW): 536870912
                            suspend-VDI-uuid ( RW): <not in database>
                             suspend-SR-uuid ( RW): <not in database>
                                VCPUs-params (MRW): 
                                   VCPUs-max ( RW): 2
                            VCPUs-at-startup ( RW): 2
                      actions-after-shutdown ( RW): Destroy
                        actions-after-reboot ( RW): Restart
                         actions-after-crash ( RW): Restart
                               console-uuids (SRO): 452ae8c7-c096-5f98-47b9-5da8453b94d0
                                         hvm ( RO): true
                                    platform (MRW): timeoffset: 0; secureboot: false; device-model: qemu-upstream-compat; videoram: 8; hpet: true; apic: true; device_id: 0001; vga: std; nx: true; pae: true; viridian: false; acpi: 1
                          allowed-operations (SRO): changing_dynamic_range; migrate_send; pool_migrate; changing_VCPUs_live; suspend; hard_reboot; hard_shutdown; clean_reboot; clean_shutdown; pause; checkpoint; snapshot
                          current-operations (SRO): 
                          blocked-operations (MRW): 
                         allowed-VBD-devices (SRO): 1; 2; 4; 5; 6; 7; 8; 9; 10; 11; 12; 13; 14; 15; 16; 17; 18; 19; 20; 21; 22; 23; 24; 25; 26; 27; 28; 29; 30; 31; 32; 33; 34; 35; 36; 37; 38; 39; 40; 41; 42; 43; 44; 45; 46; 47; 48; 49; 50; 51; 52; 53; 54; 55; 56; 57; 58; 59; 60; 61; 62; 63; 64; 65; 66; 67; 68; 69; 70; 71; 72; 73; 74; 75; 76; 77; 78; 79; 80; 81; 82; 83; 84; 85; 86; 87; 88; 89; 90; 91; 92; 93; 94; 95; 96; 97; 98; 99; 100; 101; 102; 103; 104; 105; 106; 107; 108; 109; 110; 111; 112; 113; 114; 115; 116; 117; 118; 119; 120; 121; 122; 123; 124; 125; 126; 127; 128; 129; 130; 131; 132; 133; 134; 135; 136; 137; 138; 139; 140; 141; 142; 143; 144; 145; 146; 147; 148; 149; 150; 151; 152; 153; 154; 155; 156; 157; 158; 159; 160; 161; 162; 163; 164; 165; 166; 167; 168; 169; 170; 171; 172; 173; 174; 175; 176; 177; 178; 179; 180; 181; 182; 183; 184; 185; 186; 187; 188; 189; 190; 191; 192; 193; 194; 195; 196; 197; 198; 199; 200; 201; 202; 203; 204; 205; 206; 207; 208; 209; 210; 211; 212; 213; 214; 215; 216; 217; 218; 219; 220; 221; 222; 223; 224; 225; 226; 227; 228; 229; 230; 231; 232; 233; 234; 235; 236; 237; 238; 239; 240; 241; 242; 243; 244; 245; 246; 247; 248; 249; 250; 251; 252; 253; 254
                         allowed-VIF-devices (SRO): 1; 2; 3; 4; 5; 6
                              possible-hosts ( RO): 21525f67-3cf4-487d-831f-5854937b6647
                                 domain-type ( RW): hvm
                         current-domain-type ( RO): hvm
                             HVM-boot-policy ( RW): BIOS order
                             HVM-boot-params (MRW): order: cdn; firmware: bios
                       HVM-shadow-multiplier ( RW): 1.000
                                   PV-kernel ( RW): 
                                  PV-ramdisk ( RW): 
                                     PV-args ( RW): 
                              PV-legacy-args ( RW): 
                               PV-bootloader ( RW): 
                          PV-bootloader-args ( RW): 
                         last-boot-CPU-flags ( RO): vendor: GenuineIntel; features: 1fcbfbff-c7f82223-28100800-00000101-0000000f-21940283-00400104-00000000-00001000-9c000400-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000
                            last-boot-record ( RO): ''
                                 resident-on ( RO): 21525f67-3cf4-487d-831f-5854937b6647
                                    affinity ( RW): <not in database>
                                other-config (MRW): base_template_name: Ubuntu Focal Fossa 20.04; import_task: OpaqueRef:dc23a094-507e-0ce1-a85a-b682e92ae279; mac_seed: a64f498f-a65c-48f0-aa88-293527fca70d; install-methods: cdrom,nfs,http,ftp; linux_template: true
                                      dom-id ( RO): 25
                             recommendations ( RO): <restrictions><restriction field="memory-static-max" max="1649267441664"/><restriction field="vcpus-max" max="32"/><restriction field="has-vendor-device" value="false"/><restriction field="allow-gpu-passthrough" value="1"/><restriction field="allow-vgpu" value="1"/><restriction field="allow-network-sriov" value="1"/><restriction field="supports-bios" value="yes"/><restriction field="supports-uefi" value="no"/><restriction field="supports-secure-boot" value="no"/><restriction max="255" property="number-of-vbds"/><restriction max="7" property="number-of-vifs"/></restrictions>
                               xenstore-data (MRW): vm-data/mmio-hole-size: 268435456; vm-data: 
                  ha-always-run ( RW) [DEPRECATED]: false
                         ha-restart-priority ( RW): 
                                       blobs ( RO): 
                                  start-time ( RO): 20230402T17:49:46Z
                                install-time ( RO): 20221126T20:53:47Z
                                VCPUs-number ( RO): 2
                           VCPUs-utilisation (MRO): 0: 0.031; 1: 0.030
                                  os-version (MRO): name: Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS; uname: 5.15.0-69-generic; distro: ubuntu; major: 22; minor: 04
                          PV-drivers-version (MRO): major: 7; minor: 30; micro: 0; build: 1
          PV-drivers-up-to-date ( RO) [DEPRECATED]: true
                                      memory (MRO): 
                                       disks (MRO): 
                                        VBDs (SRO): 592934a3-8d90-5718-7576-014e5d5ee6b8; 90a43b06-4829-c928-245c-d5aa2ad1d414
                                    networks (MRO): 0/ip: 192.168.1.54; 0/ipv4/0: 192.168.1.54; 0/ipv6/0: fe80::d46f:f4ff:fe46:10c1
                         PV-drivers-detected ( RO): true
                                       other (MRO): platform-feature-xs_reset_watches: 1; platform-feature-multiprocessor-suspend: 1; has-vendor-device: 0; feature-vcpu-hotplug: 1; feature-suspend: 1; feature-reboot: 1; feature-poweroff: 1; feature-balloon: 1
                                        live ( RO): true
                  guest-metrics-last-updated ( RO): 20230402T19:24:54Z
                         can-use-hotplug-vbd ( RO): unspecified
                         can-use-hotplug-vif ( RO): unspecified
                    cooperative ( RO) [DEPRECATED]: true
                                        tags (SRW): 
                                   appliance ( RW): <not in database>
                           snapshot-schedule ( RW): <not in database>
                            is-vmss-snapshot ( RO): false
                                 start-delay ( RW): 0
                              shutdown-delay ( RW): 0
                                       order ( RW): 0
                                     version ( RO): 0
                               generation-id ( RO): 
                   hardware-platform-version ( RO): 0
                           has-vendor-device ( RW): false
                             requires-reboot ( RO): false
                             reference-label ( RO): ubuntu-20.04
                                bios-strings (MRO): bios-vendor: Xen; bios-version: ; system-manufacturer: Xen; system-product-name: HVM domU; system-version: ; system-serial-number: ; baseboard-manufacturer: ; baseboard-product-name: ; baseboard-version: ; baseboard-serial-number: ; baseboard-asset-tag: ; baseboard-location-in-chassis: ; enclosure-asset-tag: ; hp-rombios: ; oem-1: Xen; oem-2: MS_VM_CERT/SHA1/bdbeb6e0a816d43fa6d3fe8aaef04c2bad9d3e3d
                           pending-guidances ( RO): 
                                       vtpms ( RO): 
      
      

      Thank you for your help, if it counts as bug it is a small one: so far 8.3 alpha has been super-solid.

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      • mdavicoM Offline
        mdavico
        last edited by

        Is it possible to take a snapshot with usb passthrough in version 8.3?

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          exetico @mdavico
          last edited by

          @mdavico Are you asking if it's possible to get one processed, even though a USB passthrough are currently enabled/active on the KVM, or? 🙂 I think you need to be a bit more precise.

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            exetico
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            I'm jumped on XCP-ng 8.3 on my bleeding edge ODROID H3+. Are there any plan to support the build in sensors in the host system at some point, so it's possible to get CPU package temperature readouts? Right now, I've not been able to make any readouts from the host-machine, where I've tried a few sensor terminal tools 😄 .

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              mdavico @exetico
              last edited by

              @exetico I mean when you passthrough a usb, when you want to take a snapshot it gives the error VM_HAS_VUSBS(OpaqueRef:aedd32dc-6dec-4be1-aa5d-9dda799c01b2) and as in version 8.3 you can exclude certain vdi, possibly also a VUSB, that's what I mean

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                ashceryth
                last edited by ashceryth

                Has anyone tried installing 8.3 on a NUC12 yet? I'm about to buy a (maybe 2) NUC12 i5 (1240P) to replace my old tower servers at home. How does XCP-ng handle the hybrid architecture?

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                  andSmv Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team Xen Guru
                  last edited by andSmv

                  @ashceryth XCP-ng is based on Xen 4.13, so I'm quite sure it doesn't handle Intel Hybrid architecture. I'm not even sure there's ongoing efforts on this support in Xen Project Community.

                  Moreover, after a very quick check, I didn't see the trace of ARM big.LITTLE support in recent XEN.

                  I think this kind of features needs the profound analysis how exactly is to be mapped on hypervisor based platforms. And I think the response is not obvious at all.

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                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                    last edited by

                    Yes, it will simply explode if you have both cores types enabled at the same time. You will need to disable E or P cores (your choice).

                    The main reason is a really poor design choice from Intel, with those cores designed with similar functions doing different things. Nobody in the virt world want to deal with those.

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                      ashceryth
                      last edited by

                      Thanks, for your comments! That is basically what I was expecting.

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                      • exeticoE Offline
                        exetico @mdavico
                        last edited by

                        @mdavico Saly, I also get a VM_HAS_VUSBS(OpaqueRef:***/removed/**) error message in 8.3, if I have a ongoing passthrough.

                        I'm not sure if it's the same thing with backups. If it is, that's problematic. One of my instances needs the USB Passthrough, but I need the rolling backup.

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                        • mdavicoM Offline
                          mdavico @exetico
                          last edited by

                          @exetico tested with virtualbox and it is possible to take a snapshot with VUSB

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                            MrJroen @ashceryth
                            last edited by MrJroen

                            @ashceryth I installed the alpha version (8.3) on a Intel RNUC12WSKI70000 a few months ago without any issue. Worked like a charm, no custom mods needed. When the official 8.3 release is available I will reinstall from scratch just to make sure its still compatible/working.
                            Better to use the supported hardware of course but I like the sizes of the NUC's 🙂

                            Edit: I need to look into the hybrid part of the question. I'm not familiar with this at the moment so not sure what the implications are from that standpoint. Anyway, seems like the experts above already provided an answer on this one.

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                              stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
                              last edited by stormi

                              A new batch of updates for XCP-ng 8.3 alpha arrived.

                              It's been a while: one specific update I wanted to push together with everything that was ready gave us more trouble than expected, but now it's solved and so I pushed all the updates at once.

                              Main changes

                              • xcp-ng-release*: updated repository definitions in /etc/yum.repos.d/xcpng.repo, to add more testing repositories (disabled by default. More about this here - look for "About the new testing repositories"). Warning: If you have any local changes to this file, it won't be overwritten. In this case, look for /etc/yum.repos.d/xcpng.repo.rpmnew after applying the update, and move it over xcpng.repo. This won't change much for you as testers of XCP-ng 8.3, because we're still pushing the updates directly to xcp-ng-base when they are ready for your testing, but there might be the occasional experimental package in some other location - and the updated .repo file with make it easier to pull from there if needed.
                              • AMD and Intel microcode updates (not the very latest yet, though)
                              • sm (Storage Manager) ported to python 3 by XenServer, and we rebased our additional storage drivers on it
                              • XAPI and related components
                                • HTTP to HTTPS redirection on the host's web page.
                                • lots of changes from upstream. Full changelog.
                              • IPv6 support added to xha and xsconsole. You'll need to wait for an updated installer in order to test this and the rest of IPv6 support for the management interface.
                              • memtest86+ updated to 6.20 to support EFI hosts and more hardware. Will be available in the installer.
                              • xen: better hardware support (Ryzen...), security fixes, bug fixes...
                              • Other updates synced from the preview release of XenServer 8.3.
                              • zstd 1.5.4 (1.5.5 soon)
                              • removed corosync and dlm from installed systems. They were unneeded dependencies for XenServer's clustering support, which is proprietary and thus unsupported on XCP-ng. Let's trim dom0 down slightly.

                              We also continued our work on the installer and on automating the build of installer ISO images. We'll have new builds for you shortly.

                              How to update

                              From an installed XCP-ng 8.3 alpha, just run yum update, and reboot. The usual update rules apply: master host first, etc. Check https://xcp-ng.org/docs/updates.html. I haven't tested it on this update, but XOA's Rolling Pool Update should work on this update.

                              What to test

                              Depending on the time available, it goes from "just update and check things still work as expected" to "test everything you can think of", with an intermediate step of "test specific features which are important to you".

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                              • exeticoE Offline
                                exetico @stormi
                                last edited by

                                @stormi Thank you!

                                Are there any planned work related to hot backups of VM's, where a USB device are attached? It's currently not possible.

                                In the weekend I ended up moving a single container to a alpine image, so I could continue backing up my primary docker VM. But I was hoping to have rolling backup of the alpine VM, too 😊

                                https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/61091

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                                  rRobbie @stormi
                                  last edited by

                                  @stormi

                                  Update done on an Intel NUC11ATKC4 and a NUC8i5BEH, both are working fine 😊

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                                    stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @exetico
                                    last edited by stormi

                                    @exetico The topic of snapshots (and subsequently, backups) for VMs with USB passthrough is an identified one but there's no ETA at the moment.

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                                      exetico @stormi
                                      last edited by

                                      @stormi Fair. Are there any public issue to follow? Maybe I didn't do my search that well? Thank you for the answer.

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                                        stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @exetico
                                        last edited by

                                        @exetico There are https://github.com/xcp-ng/xcp/issues/164 at XCP-ng level and https://github.com/xapi-project/xen-api/issues/4573 at upstream XAPI level.

                                        ghost created this issue in xcp-ng/xcp

                                        open Enable snapshots for VM with vUSB/USB passthrough #164

                                        ghost created this issue in xapi-project/xen-api

                                        open Backup fails if VM has a USB pass through #4573

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                                          JeffBerntsen Top contributor @stormi
                                          last edited by

                                          @stormi Update done on the 8.3 server in my test lab and all goes well so far. HP Microserver N36L

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                                            exetico @stormi
                                            last edited by

                                            @stormi Thanks. I'll cross my fingers for a fix, at some time.

                                            I also updated yesterday, on my ODROID H3+. Everything worked as expected.

                                            I noticed that /etc/xensource/usb-policy.conf was send back to stock configuration, so I readded my modification to it. I'm not sure, if that's the expected behavior, after the host update + restart.

                                            Thank you for the latest update 😊👍.

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