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    • A Offline
      Andrew Top contributor @gduperrey
      last edited by

      @gduperrey Updated multiple servers and seems to be fine. But, none are Zen2 systems.

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      • gduperreyG Offline
        gduperrey Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
        last edited by

        Update published. Thanks for the tests!

        https://xcp-ng.org/blog/2023/07/27/july-2023-security-update-zenbleed/

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          TodorPetkov
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          Hello,

          I saw there is new announcement on Xenbits regarding Zenbleed (https://xenbits.xen.org/xsa/advisory-433.html) - will there be new patch for XCP?

          Thanks in advance.

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          • bleaderB Offline
            bleader Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @TodorPetkov
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            @TodorPetkov Yes, for now we do not know when this update will be released on XenServer side yet, but it will be published on XCP-ng side too.

            What was released for now is suffering from the same issue as described in your link.

            If I'm not mistaken:

            • the linux-firmware update fixes the issues with zenbleed
            • the kernel patch is working around the case where the updated firmware is not used by disabling features via the control register, and there were too much disabled in the previous patch.
            • if you're using the updated firmware, this workaround will not be used, and therefore the updated patch is not critical.

            You can check you're running the right microcode version via:

            journalctl -k --grep=microcode
            

            Without the -k you should be able to see previous boots and ensure the patch_level= has changed. I'm unsure which version to expect there as we do not have zen2 at hand for testing this.

            We will indeed provide an update later, likely not in a dedicated update, but with other fixes.

            I hope that answers properly your question!

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            • gduperreyG Offline
              gduperrey Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
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              New Security Update Candidates (Xen)

              Xen is being updated to correct a flaw in the latest patch (XSA-433) for Zenbleed and AMD CPUs.

              • Upstream (Xen project) advisory: XSA-433

              The patch provided with earlier versions was buggy by unintentionally disabling more bits than expected in the control register due to bad integer variable truncation.

              Test on XCP-ng 8.2

              From an up to date host:

              yum clean metadata --enablerepo=xcp-ng-testing
              yum update "xen-*" --enablerepo=xcp-ng-testing
              reboot
              

              Version:

              • xen-*: 4.13.5-9.35.1.xcpng8.2

              If you didn't already applied the previous updates, we invite you to also update linux-firmware.

              yum update linux-firmware
              reboot
              

              Version:

              • linux-firmware: 20190314-8.1.xcpng8.2

              One reboot for the two updates is enough.

              What to test

              Normal use and anything else you want to test. The closer to your actual use of XCP-ng, the better.

              Test window before official release of the updates

              ~1 days. We'll release before the WE if our internal tests are fine.

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              • gduperreyG Offline
                gduperrey Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
                last edited by

                Update published. Thanks for the tests!

                https://xcp-ng.org/blog/2023/08/04/erratum-july-2023-security-update-zenbleed/

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                • N Offline
                  NielsH @gduperrey
                  last edited by

                  @gduperrey Thanks!

                  I see that shortly after this some more security related patched have become available:
                  XSA-432: https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2023/08/08/3
                  XSA-434: https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2023/08/08/4
                  XSA-435: https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2023/08/08/5

                  Some of this also seems pretty serious. We were currently busy running patches on our systems. This takes us about 1-2 weeks to complete. Do you think these 3 patches will also become available for XCP-ng? In that case we'd rather wait for those to become available so we don't have to spend another 1-2 weeks immediately after completing the current set of patches.

                  Thank you!

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                  • gduperreyG Offline
                    gduperrey Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
                    last edited by

                    Hello,

                    Yes, these patches will become available in XCP-ng. We're working on it to release as soon as possible. We'd like to release them this week, so we do everything we can for that.

                    There will be a post here for the tests and for the final release.

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                    • olivierlambertO Offline
                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                      last edited by

                      Hello @NielsH I don't want to sound moralistic, but if you are using XCP-ng in production without any subscription, and being worried about patches coming fast enough for your production system, you should really think about getting support for it 🙂 That's exactly what the subscription money is made for! (well, in part but absolutely used for that).

                      I mean, you are free to not doing it, and even if we do our best to treat everyone fairly (paying or not) for our patches, we won't be against more support so the project can continue to grow 🙂

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                        NielsH @olivierlambert
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                        @olivierlambert said in Updates announcements and testing:

                        Hello @NielsH I don't want to sound moralistic, but if you are using XCP-ng in production without any subscription, and being worried about patches coming fast enough for your production system, you should really think about getting support for it 🙂 That's exactly what the subscription money is made for! (well, in part but absolutely used for that).

                        I mean, you are free to not doing it, and even if we do our best to treat everyone fairly (paying or not) for our patches, we won't be against more support so the project can continue to grow 🙂

                        Hey,

                        No worries, I understand your point.
                        For us specifically, we use local storage and the time it takes to migrate all VMs to a different host, reboot, next host, etc... is about 1-1.5 weeks during working hours. This is why, if another batch of updates is coming soon, we would rather wait and do everything at once instead of update twice in a row. I'm aware of the Rolling Pool Upgrade feature but it is not compatible with local storage.

                        Regarding XCP-ng Pro support, currently the pricing is a bit too steep for us to be feasable due to the amount of hosts we have. We do however pay for XOA Premium which is more affordable and we do find it valuable to support the developers.

                        I believe I did see some of your posts around regarding a possible all-in pricing plan which may be interesting for us, so once more details regarding that are available it is something for us to look into 🙂

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                        • olivierlambertO Offline
                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                          last edited by

                          No worries, and indeed, new pricing might be a good fit for you 🙂

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                          • gduperreyG Offline
                            gduperrey Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
                            last edited by gduperrey

                            New Security Update Candidates (kernel, Xen, linux-firmware, microcode_ctl, XAPI...)

                            Xen is being updated to mitigate some vulnerabilities:

                            • XSA-432: CVE-2023-34319. Under Linux, a buffer overrun in netback can be triggered due to unusual packets. This behavior was due to the fix of the XSA-423 which didn't account an extreme case of an entire packet being split into as many pieces as permitted by the protocol and still being smaller than the area that's dealt with to keep all headers together. It is possible to crash a host from a vm, with malicious and privileged code.

                            • XSA-434: CVE-2023-20569. Researchers from ETH Zurich have extended their prior research (XSA-422, Branch Type Confusion, a.k.a Retbleed) and have discovered INCEPTION, also known as RAS (Return Address Stack) Poisoning, and Speculative Return Stack Overflow. An attacker might be able to infer the contents of memory belonging to other guests.

                            • XSA-435: CVE-2022-40982. A security issue in certain Intel CPUs may allow an attacker to infer data from different contexts on the same core.

                            Components are also updated to add bugfixes and enhancements:

                            • guest-templates-json: Added Debian 12 Bookworm

                            • XAPI:

                              • Several hotfixes and improvements from XS82ECU1033
                              • From XS82ECU1045 Significant performance improvements on a set of CPU features for servers with Cascade Lake or later Intel CPUs.
                            • microcode_ctl: Update to IPU 2023.3

                            • linux-firmware: Expose additional features for Intel CPUs, especially for Cascade Lake or later Intel CPUs. Updated to latest AMD firmware for processor family 19h.

                            • Xen: Expose MSR_ARCH_CAPS to guests on all Intel hardware by default.

                            • blktap, nbd: An update of the packages for Xostor.

                            Test on XCP-ng 8.2

                            From an up to date host:

                            yum clean metadata --enablerepo=xcp-ng-testing
                            yum update "xen-*" microcode_ctl linux-firmware kernel forkexecd gpumon message-switch "ocaml-*" rrd2csv rrdd-plugins sm-cli squeezed varstored-guard vhd-tool wsproxy "xapi-*" xcp-networkd xcp-rrdd "xenopsd*" xs-opam-repo "guest-templates-*" blktap xcp-ng-linstor nbd tzdata grub* lldpad xcp-ng-xapi-plugins --enablerepo=xcp-ng-testing
                            reboot
                            

                            Version:

                            • forkexecd: 1.18.3-2.1.xcpng8.2
                            • gpumon: 0.18.0-10.1.xcpng8.2
                            • kernel: 4.19.19-7.0.17.1.xcpng8.2
                            • linux-firmware: 20190314-9.1.xcpng8.2
                            • message-switch: 1.23.2-9.1.xcpng8.2
                            • microcode_ctl: 2.1-26.xs26.1.xcpng8.2
                            • ocaml-rrd-transport: 1.16.1-7.1.xcpng8.2
                            • ocaml-rrdd-plugin: 1.9.1-7.1.xcpng8.2
                            • ocaml-tapctl: 1.5.1-7.1.xcpng8.2
                            • ocaml-xcp-idl: 1.96.5-1.1.xcpng8.2
                            • ocaml-xen-api-client: 1.9.0-10.1.xcpng8.2
                            • ocaml-xen-api-libs-transitional: 2.25.5-4.1.xcpng8.2
                            • rrd2csv: 1.2.6-7.1.xcpng8.2
                            • rrdd-plugins: 1.10.9-4.1.xcpng8.2
                            • sm-cli: 0.23.0-53.1.xcpng8.2
                            • squeezed-0.27.0-10.1.xcpng8.2
                            • varstored-guard: 0.6.2-7.xcpng8.2
                            • vhd-tool: 0.43.0-10.1.xcpng8.2
                            • wsproxy: 1.12.0-11.xcpng8.2
                            • xapi: 1.249.32-1.1.xcpng8.2
                            • xapi-nbd: 1.11.0-9.1.xcpng8.2
                            • xapi-storage: 11.19.0_sxm2-9.xcpng8.2
                            • xapi-storage-script: 0.34.1-8.1.xcpng8.2
                            • xcp-networkd: 0.56.2-7.xcpng8.2
                            • xcp-rrdd: 1.33.2-6.1.xcpng8.2
                            • xen: 4.13.5-9.36.1.xcpng8.2
                            • xenopsd: 0.150.17-1.1.xcpng8.2
                            • xs-opam-repo: 6.35.11-1.xcpng8.2
                            • guest-templates-json: 1.9.6-1.3.xcpng8.2
                            • blktap-3.37.4-1.0.2.xcpng8.2
                            • tzdata-2022a-1.el7
                            • xcp-ng-linstor-1.1-3.xcpng8.2
                            • nbd-3.24-1.xcpng8.2
                            • grub-2.02-3.2.0.xcpng8.2

                            What to test

                            Normal use and anything else you want to test. The closer to your actual use of XCP-ng, the better.

                            Test window before official release of the updates

                            ~2 days.

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                            • olivierlambertO Offline
                              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                              last edited by

                              42 packages and 147M worth of updates 😄

                              Installed here and worked on my HPE EPYC host 🙂

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                              • gskgerG Offline
                                gskger Top contributor @gduperrey
                                last edited by

                                @gduperrey Updated my two host cluster (HP ProDesk 600 G6) and no issues so far.

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                                • gduperreyG Offline
                                  gduperrey Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
                                  last edited by

                                  Update published. Thanks for the tests!

                                  https://xcp-ng.org/blog/2023/08/14/august-2023-security-update/

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                                  • gduperreyG Offline
                                    gduperrey Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
                                    last edited by

                                    New Security Update Candidates (Xen)

                                    Xen is being updated to mitigate some vulnerabilities:

                                    • XSA-439: CVE-2023-20588. On AMD Zen1 CPUs, "an attacker might be able to infer data from a different execution context on the same CPU core."

                                    Test on XCP-ng 8.2

                                    From an up to date host:

                                    yum clean metadata --enablerepo=xcp-ng-testing
                                    yum update "xen-*" --enablerepo=xcp-ng-testing
                                    reboot
                                    

                                    Version:

                                    • xen: 4.13.5-9.36.2.xcpng8.2

                                    What to test

                                    Normal use and anything else you want to test. The closer to your actual use of XCP-ng, the better.

                                    Test window before official release of the updates

                                    ~2 days.

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                                      stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
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                                      We will soon publish the security update. Few hours left for community feedback before the release.

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                                        Andrew Top contributor @stormi
                                        last edited by

                                        @stormi I don't have a Zen 1 system... But I do have the update running on several systems for a day.

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                                        • olivierlambertO Offline
                                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                          last edited by

                                          Tested on my Zen2 system, no issues.

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                                            JeffBerntsen Top contributor
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                                            Tested in my test lab and no problems but no Zen CPUs either.

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