Issue after latest host update

nikade

dmesg looks like, probably something else borked here.
You wrote in the reddit thread that you were able to start VM's but they never actually started and the task was stuck at 1.000 progress, is that still the case after electing a new master?

If yes, check "xentop" on the host where the VM was started to see if it's consuming resources.

olivierlambert

Yeah I'm baffled because this is not something we've seen before on a "normal" setup, I really wonder where the problem lies

RealTehreal

@olivierlambert The issue started on all three hosts after the latest update via yum update. I can't think of three devices having faulty memory, just one after another. Before the issue, I used a NFS share as VM storage. But I already deployed XOA on local storage (LVM). Same issue on all three hosts.

@nikade First, I'll redeploy XOA on the pool master and take a look at xentop. Regarding xsconfig, every VM runs with one vCore at 100% all the time and not responding to anything. xe vm-list always lists them as running, though. Being in this state, the only way to shut down VMs is forced shutdown, since they won't react to soft shutdown command.

I never had such issues, either. I'm running my setup for about a year now, did several updates via cli. Likewise, I'm baffled, that everything suddenly went down the flush, too.

RealTehreal

xentop shows XOA consuming 100.0 CPU (%), meaning one core. But quick deployment is stuck at "almost there", until it times out. The VM is still consuming one CPU core, while not being accessible.

nikade

I cant really understand what happend to be honest, i've done this many times without issues.
What can you see in the console tab of the VM when u start it? Or in the stats tab?

john.c

@RealTehreal What's the state of the network stack is it up and what's the activity percentage?

RealTehreal

@nikade @john-c I'm not sure... how do I elaborate? At least, I can ssh into the hosts and never disconnect.

RealTehreal

@nikade said in Issue after latest host update:

I cant really understand what happend to be honest, i've done this many times without issues.
What can you see in the console tab of the VM when u start it? Or in the stats tab?

I can'T see anything, because XOA itself is inaccessible, since it's a VM. And VMs won't start into a usable state.

john.c

@RealTehreal said in Issue after latest host update:

@nikade said in Issue after latest host update:

I cant really understand what happend to be honest, i've done this many times without issues.
What can you see in the console tab of the VM when u start it? Or in the stats tab?

I can'T see anything, because XOA itself is inaccessible, since it's a VM. And VMs won't start into a usable state.

Anything in the XCP-ng 8.2.1 host logs for it attempting to start the VM and generally? It may hold clues, about any underlying issues.

Also any appropriate logs for the NFS storage server would help, as that may reveal anything that can be causing issues on its end.

olivierlambert

Any specific MTU settings?

olivierlambert

A way to check if it's not network related would be using a local SR to boot a VM and see if it works.

RealTehreal

@john-c I already took a look at dmesg and /var/log/xensource.log (I crawled through >1k log lines) and couldn't find anything revealing. The NFS server is unrelated, because, as stated before, I currently only use host's local storage to eliminate possible external issues.

RealTehreal

@olivierlambert That's what I'm doing, to make sure, it's not a network related issue.

RealTehreal

@olivierlambert I didn't change anything, at least. Just yum update and it went down the flush.

olivierlambert

I'm not sure the yum update is really related. It could be a coincidence, otherwise we would have been swamped in similar reports. Or it's a very specific combo that's unseen elsewhere.

What kind of hardware are we talking about?

RealTehreal

@olivierlambert I finally made some progress. And it really seems to be update related.

I took one of the hosts and plugged a display and keyboard into it. When booting up, I can choose to use an older version of Xen from the boot menu. Doing so makes VMs work again.

Culprit: Xen 4.13.5-9.39 (current default)
Working: Xen 4.13.4-9.19.1 (which I can choose from boot menu)

All three hosts are Fujitsu Futro 740 thin clients.

john.c

@RealTehreal said in Issue after latest host update:

@olivierlambert I finally made some progress. And it really seems to be update related.

I took one of the hosts and plugged a display and keyboard into it. When booting up, I can choose to use an older version of Xen from the boot menu. Doing so makes VMs work again.

Culprit: Xen 4.13.5-9.39 (current default)
Working: Xen 4.13.4-9.19.1 (which I can choose from boot menu)

All three hosts are Fujitsu Futro 740 thin clients.

What's the BIOS version of the Fujitsu Futro 740 and also the more exact model please? There's lots of Fujitsu Futro 740 thin clients, so you could be using any one of them.

RealTehreal

@john-c
Model: FUJITSU FUTRO S740/D3544-A1
BIOS: V5.0.0.13 R1.13.0 for D3544-A1x (09/23/2022)

john.c

@RealTehreal said in Issue after latest host update:

@john-c
Model: FUJITSU FUTRO S740/D3544-A1
BIOS: V5.0.0.13 R1.13.0 for D3544-A1x (09/23/2022)

Thanks that will help. As it enables identification if there's any issues, specific to that device. As well as its specific included CPU and its functions and features, especially its instruction set capabilities.

RealTehreal

@john-c All such information should be available in the dmesg file in post: https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/74791

Any ideas on how to revert the update? I would really like to have the setup running again. It may be "just" a home lab, but I was still using it (at least semi-) productively...