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    • RealTehrealR Offline
      RealTehreal @manilx
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      @manilx
      The documentation states, that toolstack should be restarted after updates. That's why I always did it that way:

      https://docs.xcp-ng.org/management/updates/#from-command-line

      But anyway, the issues started after restarting the host.

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        manilx @RealTehreal
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        @RealTehreal I stand corrected. We always do the rolling pool update and let xoa take care of all of this 🙂

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        • olivierlambertO Offline
          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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          Have you done a simple dmesg and check the output?

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          • RealTehrealR Offline
            RealTehreal @olivierlambert
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            @olivierlambert I just did, but looks fine to me (dmesg.txt).

            I just tried to designate one of the slaves as the new master. Still cannot start VMs. I will now eject all slaves, reinstall XCP-NG on one of them, add it to the pool again and make it the new master. Then I'll try again. If that doesn't work as well, I'll reinstall on the third device, create a new pool for this device and try again.

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            • olivierlambertO Offline
              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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              Could you do a mem test on the current master?

              What kind of storage are you using?

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              • nikadeN Offline
                nikade Top contributor
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                dmesg looks like, probably something else borked here.
                You wrote in the reddit thread that you were able to start VM's but they never actually started and the task was stuck at 1.000 progress, is that still the case after electing a new master?

                If yes, check "xentop" on the host where the VM was started to see if it's consuming resources.

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                • olivierlambertO Offline
                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                  Yeah I'm baffled because this is not something we've seen before on a "normal" setup, I really wonder where the problem lies 🤔

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                  • RealTehrealR Offline
                    RealTehreal
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                    @olivierlambert The issue started on all three hosts after the latest update via yum update. I can't think of three devices having faulty memory, just one after another. Before the issue, I used a NFS share as VM storage. But I already deployed XOA on local storage (LVM). Same issue on all three hosts.

                    @nikade First, I'll redeploy XOA on the pool master and take a look at xentop. Regarding xsconfig, every VM runs with one vCore at 100% all the time and not responding to anything. xe vm-list always lists them as running, though. Being in this state, the only way to shut down VMs is forced shutdown, since they won't react to soft shutdown command.

                    I never had such issues, either. I'm running my setup for about a year now, did several updates via cli. Likewise, I'm baffled, that everything suddenly went down the flush, too.

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                    • RealTehrealR Offline
                      RealTehreal
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                      xentop shows XOA consuming 100.0 CPU (%), meaning one core. But quick deployment is stuck at "almost there", until it times out. The VM is still consuming one CPU core, while not being accessible.

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                      • nikadeN Offline
                        nikade Top contributor
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                        I cant really understand what happend to be honest, i've done this many times without issues.
                        What can you see in the console tab of the VM when u start it? Or in the stats tab?

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                          john.c
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                          @RealTehreal What's the state of the network stack is it up and what's the activity percentage?

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                          • RealTehrealR Offline
                            RealTehreal
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                            @nikade @john-c I'm not sure... how do I elaborate? At least, I can ssh into the hosts and never disconnect.

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                            • RealTehrealR Offline
                              RealTehreal @nikade
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                              @nikade said in Issue after latest host update:

                              I cant really understand what happend to be honest, i've done this many times without issues.
                              What can you see in the console tab of the VM when u start it? Or in the stats tab?

                              I can'T see anything, because XOA itself is inaccessible, since it's a VM. And VMs won't start into a usable state.

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                                john.c @RealTehreal
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                                @RealTehreal said in Issue after latest host update:

                                @nikade said in Issue after latest host update:

                                I cant really understand what happend to be honest, i've done this many times without issues.
                                What can you see in the console tab of the VM when u start it? Or in the stats tab?

                                I can'T see anything, because XOA itself is inaccessible, since it's a VM. And VMs won't start into a usable state.

                                Anything in the XCP-ng 8.2.1 host logs for it attempting to start the VM and generally? It may hold clues, about any underlying issues.

                                Also any appropriate logs for the NFS storage server would help, as that may reveal anything that can be causing issues on its end.

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                                • olivierlambertO Offline
                                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                  Any specific MTU settings?

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                                  • olivierlambertO Offline
                                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                    A way to check if it's not network related would be using a local SR to boot a VM and see if it works.

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                                    • RealTehrealR Offline
                                      RealTehreal @john.c
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                                      @john-c I already took a look at dmesg and /var/log/xensource.log (I crawled through >1k log lines) and couldn't find anything revealing. The NFS server is unrelated, because, as stated before, I currently only use host's local storage to eliminate possible external issues.

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                                      • RealTehrealR Offline
                                        RealTehreal @olivierlambert
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                                        @olivierlambert That's what I'm doing, to make sure, it's not a network related issue.

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                                        • RealTehrealR Offline
                                          RealTehreal @olivierlambert
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                                          @olivierlambert I didn't change anything, at least. Just yum update and it went down the flush.

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                                          • olivierlambertO Offline
                                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                            I'm not sure the yum update is really related. It could be a coincidence, otherwise we would have been swamped in similar reports. Or it's a very specific combo that's unseen elsewhere.

                                            What kind of hardware are we talking about?

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