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    "Hardware-assisted virtualization is not enabled on this host" even though platform:exp-nested-hvm=true is set

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    • abudefA Online
      abudef
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      I temporarily moved the entire XCP-ng lab to ESXi. I need a few different hosts for scenario testing, migration and backup testing, XO proxies testing etc. and of course I can't dedicate a hw server for each of them in the lab. Please let me know when the nested virtualization support will be operational again on version 8.3.

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      • olivierlambertO Online
        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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        Well, you are the first to report this regression, so we'll need time to reproduce and investigate.

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          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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          Add stormi so we create a card internally.

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          • stormiS Offline
            stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
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            Noted! If this happens on our hardware too, this will be very annoying for our own virtual XCP-ng that we use all the time for development and testing.

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            • abudefA Online
              abudef @olivierlambert
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              olivierlambert Thank you very much for the impeccable support and fast communication 👍

              I tested again today and the problem is always on the host side, regardless of the type of guest. This corrects some of my hasty information above.

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                stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @abudef
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                abudef said in "Hardware-assisted virtualization is not enabled on this host" even though platform:exp-nested-hvm=true is set:

                I tested again today and the problem is always on the host side, regardless of the type of guest. This corrects some of my hasty information above.

                What do you mean? Can you give examples?

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                • abudefA Online
                  abudef @stormi
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                  stormi If the host is on version 8.3 with Xen 4.17, nested virtualization does not work on any guest. If version 8.3 with Xen 4.17 is on a guest, but the host is running version 8.2.1 or an out-of-date 8.3 (Xen 4.13), it doesn't matter and nested guest virtualization works.

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                    stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @abudef
                    last edited by stormi

                    abudef In the second case, do you mean there's:

                    8.2.1 host running a nested 8.3 (Xen 4.17) VM running itself a Nested XCP-ng? (so nested inside nested)

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                      abudef @stormi
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                      stormi That's not quite what I meant. The point is that if the host is 8.3/4.17, then virtualization is not working on its guest and therefore no other nested guest can be started on this guest. And actually, yes, if 8.3/4.17 appears somewhere in the cascade of nested hosts, then nested virtualization will no longer work on its guest.

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                      • olivierlambertO Online
                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                        abudef Can you try this on a shutdown VM:

                        1. Disable nested from the VM/Advanced tab
                        2. xe vm-param-set platform:nested_virt=true uuid=<VM UUID>
                        3. Start the VM
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                        • olivierlambertO Online
                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                          It seems we also need to modify some other bits, stand by.

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                          • abudefA Online
                            abudef @olivierlambert
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                            Disable nested from the VM/Advanced tab
                            xe vm-param-set platform:nested_virt=true uuid=<VM UUID>
                            Start the VM

                            ...unfortunately it didn't work, I assume because...

                            It seems we also need to modify some other bits

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                              Andrew Top contributor @olivierlambert
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                              olivierlambert On XCP 8.3/Xen 4.17 the whole vmx option is missing from any VM's CPU.... Waiting for the other bits...

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                              • olivierlambertO Online
                                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                Yes, that's exactly the missing piece, but it has to be computed from the hex string on the pool platform CPU.

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                                • abudefA Online
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                                  last edited by abudef

                                  As expected, the same problem is with XenServer 8/4.17

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                                    abudef @abudef
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                                    olivierlambert stormi Please do you have any idea when this problem might be resolved? The question is how to deal with the test lab, whether to wait, because a secondary problem is that the nested VMs cannot be migrated elsewhere from the affected virtualized XCP-ng hosts.

                                    vm.migrate
                                    {
                                      "vm": "654cc5c6-7e50-fc28-ecc4-fe46929905b2",
                                      "mapVifsNetworks": {
                                        "2db4235a-345f-f286-4172-77dab4e198fe
                                    
                                    ": "8e969c1a-cafa-7ac0-504d-cf5cd19ef1e4
                                    
                                    "
                                      },
                                      "migrationNetwork": "8e969c1a-cafa-7ac0-504d-cf5cd19ef1e4
                                    
                                    ",
                                      "sr": "a25ba333-a1a5-f22f-c337-0ec662e835ed",
                                      "targetHost": "ca60fce7-924a-45f9-a1c6-ee860952e6aa"
                                    }
                                    {
                                      "code": "NO_HOSTS_AVAILABLE",
                                      "params": [],
                                      "task": {
                                        "uuid": "57fe6efb-569e-3fa3-a345-d43377260884
                                    
                                    ",
                                        "name_label": "Async.VM.migrate_send",
                                        "name_description": "",
                                        "allowed_operations": [],
                                        "current_operations": {},
                                        "created": "20240510T10:45:50Z",
                                        "finished": "20240510T10:45:51Z",
                                        "status": "failure",
                                        "resident_on": "OpaqueRef:99de1bb8-8e7f-e79a-d7f9-5d84c2c09a73",
                                        "progress": 1,
                                        "type": "<none/>",
                                        "result": "",
                                        "error_info": [
                                          "NO_HOSTS_AVAILABLE"
                                        ],
                                        "other_config": {},
                                        "subtask_of": "OpaqueRef:NULL",
                                        "subtasks": [],
                                        "backtrace": "(((process xapi)(filename ocaml/xapi/xapi_vm_placement.ml)(line 106))((process xapi)(filename ocaml/xapi/message_forwarding.ml)(line 1453))((process xapi)(filename ocaml/libs/xapi-stdext/lib/xapi-stdext-pervasives/pervasiveext.ml)(line 24))((process xapi)(filename ocaml/libs/xapi-stdext/lib/xapi-stdext-pervasives/pervasiveext.ml)(line 39))((process xapi)(filename ocaml/xapi/helpers.ml)(line 1506))((process xapi)(filename ocaml/xapi/message_forwarding.ml)(line 1445))((process xapi)(filename ocaml/xapi/message_forwarding.ml)(line 2537))((process xapi)(filename ocaml/libs/xapi-stdext/lib/xapi-stdext-pervasives/pervasiveext.ml)(line 24))((process xapi)(filename ocaml/libs/xapi-stdext/lib/xapi-stdext-pervasives/pervasiveext.ml)(line 39))((process xapi)(filename ocaml/xapi/message_forwarding.ml)(line 2559))((process xapi)(filename ocaml/xapi/rbac.ml)(line 189))((process xapi)(filename ocaml/xapi/rbac.ml)(line 198))((process xapi)(filename ocaml/xapi/server_helpers.ml)(line 75)))"
                                      },
                                      "message": "NO_HOSTS_AVAILABLE()",
                                      "name": "XapiError",
                                      "stack": "XapiError: NO_HOSTS_AVAILABLE()
                                        at Function.wrap (file:///opt/xo/xo-builds/xen-orchestra-202405091612/packages/xen-api/_XapiError.mjs:16:12)
                                        at default (file:///opt/xo/xo-builds/xen-orchestra-202405091612/packages/xen-api/_getTaskResult.mjs:11:29)
                                        at Xapi._addRecordToCache (file:///opt/xo/xo-builds/xen-orchestra-202405091612/packages/xen-api/index.mjs:1029:24)
                                        at file:///opt/xo/xo-builds/xen-orchestra-202405091612/packages/xen-api/index.mjs:1063:14
                                        at Array.forEach (<anonymous>)
                                        at Xapi._processEvents (file:///opt/xo/xo-builds/xen-orchestra-202405091612/packages/xen-api/index.mjs:1053:12)
                                        at Xapi._watchEvents (file:///opt/xo/xo-builds/xen-orchestra-202405091612/packages/xen-api/index.mjs:1226:14)"
                                    }
                                    

                                    (targetHost above is a common native XCP-ng host)

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                                      Andrew Top contributor @abudef
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                                      abudef olivierlambert stormi Ok, so we can't hot migrate a VM from 8.3 back to 8.2.... I get it... Cold migration fails also, I almost understand why it won't work because there might be features missing. Then why does Warm migration work?

                                      Can normal cold migration be forced to work? May be as a check box/warning option that features might not be available (like TPM)?

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                                      • olivierlambertO Online
                                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO @Andrew
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                                        Andrew No, migration is always forward compatible, not backward. You can use warm migration in XO instead (or backup delta/restore).

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                                        • olivierlambertO Online
                                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO @abudef
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                                          abudef No. We are discussing internally to see what would be the best approach.

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                                            abudef @olivierlambert
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                                            Hello olivierlambert, curiosity prevents me from not asking if you have reached any conclusion or solution yet. Thank you in advance for revealing the hot news 🙂

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