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    XCPNG 8.3 availability?

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    • olivierlambertO Offline
      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
      last edited by

      Hi,

      It's a matter of weeks now (like 4 or 5). Our beta is rather stable, but it will be a bit more risky to update when the final XCP-ng 8.3 will land.

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        SylvainB @olivierlambert
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        @olivierlambert

        Thanks Olivier, if I accept the risk, how can I upgrade from 8.2 to 8.3 beta ?

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        • olivierlambertO Offline
          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
          last edited by olivierlambert

          Just insert the ISO, boot on it and follow instructions 🙂 This will even backup your previous 8.2 install in case you want to move back.

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            SylvainB @olivierlambert
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            @olivierlambert Thanks !👍

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            • planedropP Offline
              planedrop Top contributor
              last edited by

              I may have missed it (been out on vacation and then got COVID so I've been absent from the forums 😞 )

              But is 8.3 going to be upgradeable in place without using the ISO on official release or is it still going to require the ISO upgrade method?

              Going to upgrade my entire lab to Beta 2 as soon as I can to get testing with some things, will just use the ISO for that, but thinking about my production installs.

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              • olivierlambertO Offline
                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                last edited by

                You mean 8.3 beta to RC to final with yum?

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                  planedrop Top contributor @olivierlambert
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                  @olivierlambert Apologies, I should have explained better.

                  I mean from 8.2.1 to 8.3 once final is out, using yum instead of having to use the ISO to install.

                  Basically, using XOA to install the update like I would normally update a host instead of using the ISO.

                  And again apologies if I missed it.

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                  • olivierlambertO Offline
                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                    last edited by

                    8.2 to 8.3 will be only ISO upgrade supported, since it's far less risky. Doesn't mean yum won't work, but it won't be officially supported or tested 🙂

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                      bvitnik @olivierlambert
                      last edited by bvitnik

                      @olivierlambert Will 8.1 to 8.3 upgrade path also be supported?

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                      • olivierlambertO Offline
                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                        last edited by

                        Via ISO, the upgrade should work too, yes 🙂

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                        • planedropP Offline
                          planedrop Top contributor @olivierlambert
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                          @olivierlambert Makes total sense to me, just wanted to be sure.

                          Excited to upgrade my lab, should have done it with the first beta but just hadn't found the time.

                          Thanks!

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                            stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @olivierlambert
                            last edited by stormi

                            @olivierlambert said in XCPNG 8.3 availability?:

                            8.2 to 8.3 will be only ISO upgrade supported, since it's far less risky. Doesn't mean yum won't work, but it won't be officially supported or tested 🙂

                            Actually, I'm going to make it impossible, on purpose, because it won't give you a clean and supported 8.3.

                            However, there's still the alternate upgrade method using the ISO which doesn't require to boot it: https://docs.xcp-ng.org/installation/upgrade/#using-the-installation-when-you-cant-boot-from-it-remote-upgrade (once we have fixed a remaining issue with this upgrade method in 8.3).

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                              stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @bvitnik
                              last edited by stormi

                              @bvitnik said in XCPNG 8.3 availability?:

                              @olivierlambert Will 8.1 to 8.3 upgrade path also be supported?

                              It will work, and we will test it internally, but be aware that it will not benefit from the big amount of QA made by XenServer for XenServer 8, because they only guarantee 8.2 CU1 => 8.3.

                              8.1 fully updated => 8.2.1 fully updated => 8.3 is a safer route.

                              I don't expect any issue outside maybe very specific situations, for the 8.1 => 8.3 upgrade, though.

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                                Houbsi
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                                If someone is already rocking and testing 8.3, what would be the best way to update?

                                A. Fresh Install 8.3 with the ISO
                                A.1 Afterwards importing configuration backup?
                                B. Update 8.3 beta with 8.3 ISO Upgrade path?

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                                  stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @Houbsi
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                                  @Houbsi B. This will give you a clean system but will keep your XAPI database, SRs, VMs, etc.

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                                    CJ @stormi
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                                    @stormi Is using the ISO the only way to go from 8.3 Beta to 8.3? Will there be a patch/update path?

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                                      stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @CJ
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                                      @CJ yum update from 8.3 beta to 8.3 will be possible, but I still recommend using the ISO. In a perfect world, yum update would give you exactly the same result, but in reality there are always corner cases where files or packages are left behind (we have no sane way to tell yum/rpm to remove an installed RPM, unless making another RPM obsolete it and thus make it impossible to reinstall later if someone needs it for a good reason).

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