Potential bug with Windows VM backup: "Body Timeout Error"

Hex

@olivierlambert
I have tested several scenarios on 1TB test VM.
Mounted share from same storage where backups from XO are stored.

Export of shutdown VM with zstd - succeeded
Export of snapshot while VM is running with zstd - succeeded
Export of snapshot while VM is running with gzip - succeeded

olivierlambert

That's a very interesting result It means the problem is either an interaction between XO and XAPI, or on XO's side, but not simply an XCP-ng issue as we could have thought initially

Can you check if the XVA file seems to work when importing it? (it case xe fails silently). Use xe vm-import.

Hex

@olivierlambert
Tested on one of the previous exports and import with " xe vm-import" was successful. VM Windows OS starts normally.

olivierlambert

So maybe there's a timeout that's too long for XO. Adding @florent and/or @julien-f in the loop.

Greg_E

@olivierlambert

Boosting this because it looks like I have a Windows Server 2022 that is going to keep failing. It also has more then 150GB of free space and I was thinking of shrinking it down (if only I could pull a good backup in case it breaks). I no longer need that much space.

That said, a Linux VM with more free space went zooming right along, way faster than the Server 2022 that I was also backing up at the same time. This other Server 2022 succeeded, but I'll want to try a second on all my Windows backups to make sure they work before starting them on a schedule.

I saw a Delta style mentioned above, mine fails with a Delta too. The snapshot is created, then the file compression and file copy starts, and this is where things fail.

Writing out to an NFS share, but I might try backing up across my router to my lab which has an SMB share for backup testing.

I'm using XCP-ng 8.2.x for and XO from sources with commit d7e64.

I'm migrating that VM from one storage device to another to see if that might be part of the issue, once it is done I'll give this backup another try.

Greg_E

@Greg_E

Not sure if this helps, I was able to get this VM to backup using no compression. Now I'm going to make the drive smaller to remove most of the free space and see if compression works.

This VM had almost 400GB of free space, and I no longer need this much since Microsoft deprecated a feature I was using after win10, all my clients have been moved to win11.

I have one more "big" Windows VM that probably has a bunch of space I can reclaim, or I'll just go without compression for that one.

And this is only a Windows issue, my biggest Linux VM also has a lot of free space to hold disk images for deployment, and it was FAST compared to a windows backup.

[late edit] I forgot that this is a process. The Recovery partition sits at the end of disk space, so shrinking the main partition will leave uncommitted space between them, and not shrink anything at all. What I've done in the past was to boot to a Linux disk and use Gparted to move the Recovery where it needed to be. This machine is one of my domain controllers and will need to wait until I have "idle" time on the system to shut it down and do this, maybe tomorrow if I'm lucky. Since I have more than one, I generally shouldn't need to worry, but I still try to work around other users.

olivierlambert

My previous ping didn't work so I will try my luck with @lsouai-vates

lsouai-vates

@olivierlambert transfered

Greg_E

@lsouai-vates

I backed up another Windows Server 2022 that had a lot of free space, setting no compression is the workaround right now. I'll have to get both of these shrunk down to reasonable and see if compression starts working. That's and after lunch task for the second "big" VM. I'll report back after performing the shrink steps on the one I can reboot today.

I agree with the working theory way up at the top... The process is still going, counting each empty "block" and "compressing" it, but with no data moving for over 5 minutes, it errors out. And 120-150GB worth of empty space in a Windows VM is enough to hit that timer.

Why the Linux machines don't do this? Might be because all of mine are done in less than 10 minutes total, which doesn't leave a lot of time where that timer can run. 3 of my linux with "large" disk went just fine, a couple only took 3 minutes to compress and copy to the remote share.

[edit] After shrinking and moving the partitions, I'm finding that XO is not allowed to decrease the size of a "disk", so I might just be stuck with no compression on these two VMs.

lsouai-vates

@florent can you help him?