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    XOA 5.107.2 Backup Failure via SMB and S3 (Backblaze)

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    • planedropP Offline
      planedrop Top contributor @planedrop
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      Going to give it more time, but restarting all the backups seems to have fixed the issue. Unsure why they would fail once and then resume just fine though.

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        planedrop Top contributor @planedrop
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        Still seeing this issue, trying to pinpoint it but haven't had any luck. It seems like each VM is about a 50/50 chance if it fails or succeeds, but the logs don't really lead me to anything and there's no consistent reason why it would be happening that I can find.

        This is only since going to 5.107.2 as well, wasn't happening on the previous version (which I unfortunately don't recall the version number of).

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          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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          Do you have the issue on stable release channel?

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            planedrop Top contributor @olivierlambert
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            @olivierlambert Good question, I am on Latest by mistake in this environment actually.

            Is it safe to roll back to Stable channel even though I am already on latest?

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              Yes it should be safe 🙂

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                planedrop Top contributor @olivierlambert
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                @olivierlambert I will give this a shot and report back. It may be a day or so, one of the backups is still running (very large VM over S3 so takes a while) but once it's done I will go back and see if the failures go away.

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                  ravenet
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                  I was seeing similar broken backups in 5.107. Reverting to 5.106.4 seems to have resolved so far. Have a case open with logs submitted

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                    planedrop Top contributor @ravenet
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                    @ravenet @olivierlambert yeah going back to 5.106 seems to have resolved the issue. I want to give it one more day before saying 100% that it did, but all VMs in both my backup jobs last night finished properly.

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                    • olivierlambertO Online
                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                      Okay thanks, the backup code made a big leap in latest, so there's maybe something fishy in there 🤔 @florent : might be a lead to find a potential bug in the new code

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                        planedrop Top contributor @olivierlambert
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                        @olivierlambert Happy to help in any way that I can as well!

                        Notably, I am not seeing any issues doing backups to SMB or S3 with my lab at home which is on the latest. My lab is XCP-ng 8.3 though, rather than 8.2 like this production setup (which will be getting upgraded to 8.3 now that it's LTS), so maybe something specific with the new backup code and 8.2?

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                        • olivierlambertO Online
                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                          It's more likely related to your XO backup code than XCP-ng version (my gut feeling ATM)

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                            planedrop Top contributor @olivierlambert
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                            @olivierlambert Gotcha. I'll see if I can get this issue to replicate in my lab at all but so far my backups have been smooth over there.

                            I'll try to re-create more similar backup jobs in the lab as well, maybe it's a specific setting or something on my jobs.

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                              ravenet @olivierlambert
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                              @olivierlambert

                              @florent already jumped in on our case and submitted a fix for "_removeUnusedSnapshots don t handle vdi related to multiple VMs" that we were seeing.
                              We have a vdi that won't coalesce, so I need to reopen that case. I think this above error was triggered from this angry vdi and my previous attempt to fix it.

                              It was also noted that 5.107 was ignoring our backup setting for concurrent backups and was running all 24vms at once instead of the 3 we had set. Reverting to 5.106.4 resolved this. Waiting for an update on what's broken in 5.107 to ignore this setting. Different timezone so assume I'll hear tonight.

                              I'm on 8.3 as well and fully updated with latest patches

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                                planedrop Top contributor @ravenet
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                                @ravenet All of my errors seemed related to NBD access, so if the concurrency setting was being ignored, that might be the source of the issue I was seeing.

                                I'll watch my lab as well and see if the concurrency is being respected or not on the latest from the sources build.

                                Glad to see you were on 8.3, so not related to me being on 8.2.

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                                  ravenet @planedrop
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                                  @planedrop I was getting a lot of NBD errors as well. so I'm not positive on if it was fully just ignoring the concurrency, or just moving onto next backup because of nbd communication error then just leaving the previous backups under active attempt. Either way, there's a bug if it leaves backup 'active' and then starts another one beyond set concurrent limit.

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                                    planedrop Top contributor @ravenet
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                                    @ravenet Yeah another night of successful backups so I think going back to Stable did fix the issue. 2 for 2 on that now.

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