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      ph7 @ph7
      last edited by ph7

      I compared the 2 jobs to make sure they where exactly the same.
      Ran the new job. Success.
      Ran the old job. Failed.

      Removed all data from Long-term retention of backups in the old job
      Number of daily backups kept 7 to "blank"
      Number of weekly backups kept 2 to "blank"
      Number of monthly backups kept 1 to "blank"
      Number of yearly backups kept 1 to "blank"

      Ran the old job again. Success !

      Put the data back to 7 2 1 1
      Ran the old job. Failed.

      Hmmm.. I think there must be an undocumented feature here 🙂
      I will run the new job alongside the old job an hour apart to see what will happen.

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        David
        last edited by

        I'm getting similar too, I get the "entries must be sorted in asc order 2025-01 2025-52" error (see below) hope that's helpful.

        Based on the comment about removing the Long-term retention of backups data, I just removed the Number of weekly backups kept entry and re-ran, this allowed the backup to run. I kept my Number of daily backups kept limit which I haven't reached yet.

              "message": "backup VM",
      "start": 1735640611472,
      "status": "failure",
      "tasks": [
        {
          "id": "1735640611748",
          "message": "snapshot",
          "start": 1735640611748,
          "status": "success",
          "end": 1735640616464,
          "result": "1f91db46-fbfe-ba09-9f8b-1c350d7493fd"
        },
        {
          "data": {
            "id": "59e1ac20-f03d-45b4-953d-6fb7277537c2",
            "type": "remote",
            "isFull": true
          },
          "id": "1735640616501",
          "message": "export",
          "start": 1735640616501,
          "status": "failure",
          "end": 1735640616505,
          "result": {
            "generatedMessage": false,
            "code": "ERR_ASSERTION",
            "actual": false,
            "expected": true,
            "operator": "strictEqual",
            "message": "entries must be sorted in asc order 2025-01 2025-52",
            "name": "AssertionError",
            "stack": "AssertionError [ERR_ASSERTION]: entries must be sorted in asc order 2025-01 2025-52\n    at getOldEntries (file:///home/root/xen-orchestra/@xen-orchestra/backups/_getOldEntries.mjs:116:18)\n    at FullRemoteWriter._run (file:///home/root/xen-orchestra/@xen-orchestra/backups/_runners/_writers/FullRemoteWriter.mjs:39:24)\n    at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:95:5)\n    at async FullRemoteWriter.run (file:///home/root/xen-orchestra/@xen-orchestra/backups/_runners/_writers/_AbstractFullWriter.mjs:6:14)"
          }
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          rmaclachlan @David
          last edited by

          Thank you for reporting this fix, after I removed the Number of weekly backups kept entry my backups are working again. Last night all our backups failed with the entries must be sorted in asc order 2025-01 2025-52 error.

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            ph7
            last edited by

            I have now, on the new year, added a new schedule to see if there will be any difference

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              chr1st0ph9 @David
              last edited by

              @David Thanks, my backups suddenly fail since today, after removing all retention settings except “daily backup”, they work perfectly as last year.

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                ph7 @olivierlambert
                last edited by

                @olivierlambert said in Long-term retention of backups:

                @ph7 said in Long-term retention of backups:

                VM_LACKS_FEATURE

                This means there's no tools installed or working on that VM

                The original job is still not running
                I was thinking about this and came up with this cunning plan 🙂

                1. Shut down the VM to see if there is still a problem with the tools
                2. Run the original job manually

                No. it did not work, still failing entries must be sorted in asc order 2025-01 2025-52

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    "reportWhen": "failure",
    "backupReportTpl": "mjml"
  },
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  "jobId": "6a12854b-cc07-4269-b780-fe87df6cd867",
  "jobName": "LongTerm-5+2",
  "message": "backup",
  "scheduleId": "4f8cc819-2cf7-42ac-94ae-ee005727ecf7",
  "start": 1735908223694,
  "status": "failure",
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        ]
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        "type": "VM",
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        "name_label": "Debian"
      },
      "id": "1735908225556",
      "message": "backup VM",
      "start": 1735908225556,
      "status": "failure",
      "tasks": [
        {
          "id": "1735908225574",
          "message": "clean-vm",
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          "status": "success",
          "end": 1735908225783,
          "result": {
            "merge": false
          }
        },
        {
          "id": "1735908225605",
          "message": "clean-vm",
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          "status": "success",
          "end": 1735908225828,
          "result": {
            "merge": false
          }
        },
        {
          "id": "1735908226496",
          "message": "snapshot",
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          "status": "success",
          "end": 1735908231603,
          "result": "4cf9de45-ff3f-f1a1-8a86-7b5cb03c9dd5"
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          "data": {
            "id": "446f82eb-2794-4c01-bd71-e247abd6a39c",
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            "type": "remote"
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          "id": "1735908231603:0",
          "message": "export",
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          "status": "failure",
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            "generatedMessage": false,
            "code": "ERR_ASSERTION",
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            "expected": true,
            "operator": "strictEqual",
            "message": "entries must be sorted in asc order 2025-01 2025-52",
            "name": "AssertionError",
            "stack": "AssertionError [ERR_ASSERTION]: entries must be sorted in asc order 2025-01 2025-52\n    at getOldEntries (file:///root/xen-orchestra/@xen-orchestra/backups/_getOldEntries.mjs:116:18)\n    at IncrementalRemoteWriter._prepare (file:///root/xen-orchestra/@xen-orchestra/backups/_runners/_writers/IncrementalRemoteWriter.mjs:96:24)\n    at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:95:5)"
          }
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        {
          "data": {
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            "isFull": true,
            "type": "remote"
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          "id": "1735908231605",
          "message": "export",
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          "status": "failure",
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          "result": {
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            "code": "ERR_ASSERTION",
            "actual": false,
            "expected": true,
            "operator": "strictEqual",
            "message": "entries must be sorted in asc order 2025-01 2025-52",
            "name": "AssertionError",
            "stack": "AssertionError [ERR_ASSERTION]: entries must be sorted in asc order 2025-01 2025-52\n    at getOldEntries (file:///root/xen-orchestra/@xen-orchestra/backups/_getOldEntries.mjs:116:18)\n    at IncrementalRemoteWriter._prepare (file:///root/xen-orchestra/@xen-orchestra/backups/_runners/_writers/IncrementalRemoteWriter.mjs:96:24)\n    at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:95:5)"
          }
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          "status": "success",
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          "result": {
            "merge": false
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          "data": {
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            "isFull": true,
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            "operator": "strictEqual",
            "message": "entries must be sorted in asc order 2025-01 2025-52",
            "name": "AssertionError",
            "stack": "AssertionError [ERR_ASSERTION]: entries must be sorted in asc order 2025-01 2025-52\n    at getOldEntries (file:///root/xen-orchestra/@xen-orchestra/backups/_getOldEntries.mjs:116:18)\n    at IncrementalRemoteWriter._prepare (file:///root/xen-orchestra/@xen-orchestra/backups/_runners/_writers/IncrementalRemoteWriter.mjs:96:24)\n    at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:95:5)"
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          "message": "export",
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            "code": "ERR_ASSERTION",
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            "expected": true,
            "operator": "strictEqual",
            "message": "entries must be sorted in asc order 2025-01 2025-52",
            "name": "AssertionError",
            "stack": "AssertionError [ERR_ASSERTION]: entries must be sorted in asc order 2025-01 2025-52\n    at getOldEntries (file:///root/xen-orchestra/@xen-orchestra/backups/_getOldEntries.mjs:116:18)\n    at IncrementalRemoteWriter._prepare (file:///root/xen-orchestra/@xen-orchestra/backups/_runners/_writers/IncrementalRemoteWriter.mjs:96:24)\n    at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:95:5)"
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            "name": "AssertionError",
            "stack": "AssertionError [ERR_ASSERTION]: entries must be sorted in asc order 2025-01 2025-52\n    at getOldEntries (file:///root/xen-orchestra/@xen-orchestra/backups/_getOldEntries.mjs:116:18)\n    at IncrementalRemoteWriter._prepare (file:///root/xen-orchestra/@xen-orchestra/backups/_runners/_writers/IncrementalRemoteWriter.mjs:96:24)\n    at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:95:5)"
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}

                Maybe I'm wrong but I think we have a problem here. Could have something to do with the new year.

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                  Danp Vates 🪐 Pro Support Team @ph7
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                  @ph7 This is being investigated by the XOA team. We will update this thread when more information is available.

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                    al-indigo @Danp
                    last edited by

                    @Danp Any news?
                    I have no delta-backups since new year and I don't know what will happen if I set retention "Backup retention" to 0.
                    I don't see any options to disable retention temporarily so I disabled daily backups. We have full monthly backups, but daily and weekly stopped working and it's disturbing.
                    We use open-source edition, no offence or pressure intended; just curious since maybe it's reasonable to delete all backups after next monthly full-backup is complete

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                      Danp Vates 🪐 Pro Support Team @al-indigo
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                      @al-indigo I believe that a fix should be out by EOM.

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                        al-indigo @Danp
                        last edited by

                        @Danp Could you please tell what will happen if I set "0" in retention field and enable backups again? Will it erase all my delta-backups there?
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                          Danp Vates 🪐 Pro Support Team @al-indigo
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                          @al-indigo AFAIK, the backup retention settings from the schedule won't be affected by changing the LTR values to zeros.

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