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      Davidj 0
      last edited by

      Testing a continuous replication backup, I get Error: can't connect to any nbd client

      Running the same job on my regular XO works fine. Let me know what logs you want to see.

      mail (h2)
      
         Snapshot
         Start: 2025-04-10 18:18
         End: 2025-04-10 18:18
         h3 local storage (130.02 GiB free) - h3
         Start: 2025-04-10 18:18
      
      Start: 2025-04-10 18:18
      End: 2025-04-10 18:18
      Duration: a few seconds
      Error: can't connect to any nbd client
      Type: delta
      
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      • Tristis OrisT Offline
        Tristis Oris Top contributor @Tristis Oris
        last edited by

        @Tristis-Oris probably after https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/pull/8432/files/04be6032180e7245a8db9c5f78177ac7999882c2

        /@vates/generator-toolbox# yarn build
        yarn run v1.22.22
        $ tsc
        /bin/sh: 1: tsc: not found
        error Command failed with exit code 127.
        info Visit https://yarnpkg.com/en/docs/cli/run for documentation about this command.
        

        ok, npm install -g typescript

        yarn build
        yarn run v1.22.22
        $ tsc
        src/synchronized.mts:1:20 - error TS2307: Cannot find module 'node:assert' or its corresponding type declarations.
        
        1 import assert from 'node:assert'
                             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        
        src/synchronized.test.mts:1:20 - error TS2307: Cannot find module 'node:assert' or its corresponding type declarations.
        
        1 import assert from 'node:assert'
                             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        
        src/synchronized.test.mts:2:29 - error TS2307: Cannot find module 'node:test' or its corresponding type declarations.
        
        2 import { suite, test } from 'node:test'
                                      ~~~~~~~~~~~
        
        src/throttle.mts:1:20 - error TS2307: Cannot find module 'node:assert' or its corresponding type declarations.
        
        1 import assert from 'node:assert'
                             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        
        src/throttle.test.mts:2:29 - error TS2307: Cannot find module 'node:test' or its corresponding type declarations.
        
        2 import { suite, test } from 'node:test'
                                      ~~~~~~~~~~~
        
        src/throttle.test.mts:3:20 - error TS2307: Cannot find module 'node:assert' or its corresponding type declarations.
        
        3 import assert from 'node:assert'
                             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        
        src/throttle.test.mts:7:11 - error TS2580: Cannot find name 'Buffer'. Do you need to install type definitions for node? Try `npm i --save-dev @types/node`.
        
        7     yield Buffer.allocUnsafe(chunkSize)
                    ~~~~~~
        
        src/timeout.mts:1:20 - error TS2307: Cannot find module 'node:assert' or its corresponding type declarations.
        
        1 import assert from 'node:assert'
                             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        
        src/timeout.test.mts:1:30 - error TS2307: Cannot find module 'node:test' or its corresponding type declarations.
        
        1 import { describe, it } from 'node:test'
                                       ~~~~~~~~~~~
        
        src/timeout.test.mts:2:20 - error TS2307: Cannot find module 'node:assert' or its corresponding type declarations.
        
        2 import assert from 'node:assert'
                             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        
        
        Found 10 errors in 6 files.
        
        Errors  Files
             1  src/synchronized.mts:1
             2  src/synchronized.test.mts:1
             1  src/throttle.mts:1
             3  src/throttle.test.mts:2
             1  src/timeout.mts:1
             2  src/timeout.test.mts:1
        error Command failed with exit code 2.
        info Visit https://yarnpkg.com/en/docs/cli/run for documentation about this command.
        
        fbeauchamp opened this pull request in vatesfr/xen-orchestra

        closed feat(backups): use generator instead of streams for backup and replication #8432

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        • Tristis OrisT Offline
          Tristis Oris Top contributor @Tristis Oris
          last edited by

          @Tristis-Oris
          from root directory.
          /xen-orchestra
          yarn - succeess
          yarn build - failed
          again to cd @vates/generator-toolbox/
          yarn build

          yarn run v1.22.22
          $ tsc
          Done in 5.50s.
          

          cd -
          yarn build

           Tasks:    29 successful, 29 total
          Cached:    13 cached, 29 total
            Time:    1m17.02s
          
          Done in 77.34s.
          

          again at root

          cd packages/xo-server
          mkdir -p ~/.config/xo-server
          cp sample.config.toml ~/.config/xo-server/config.toml
          yarn start
          
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          • Tristis OrisT Offline
            Tristis Oris Top contributor
            last edited by

            delta, first full.

            • no NBD
            2025-04-11T12:19:15.169Z xo:backups:worker INFO starting backup
            2025-04-11T12:22:29.509Z xo:backups:MixinBackupWriter WARN cleanVm: incorrect backup size in metadata {
              path: '/xo-vm-backups/07e5d245-7ed3-b690-e386-3461556ad41f/20250411T121931Z.json',
              actual: 27271364608,
              expected: 27278188544
            }
            

            2 vms but 1 log at cli.

            delta

            [2025-04-11T12:27:41.428Z xo:backups:worker INFO starting backup
            2025-04-11T12:27:48.644Z xo:backups:MixinBackupWriter WARN cleanVm: incorrect backup size in metadata {
              path: '/xo-vm-backups/f3cfdc19-0e6a-04d1-5651-82e1dbb25191/20250411T122746Z.json',
              actual: 44040192,
              expected: 46314496
            }
            2025-04-11T12:28:03.055Z xo:backups:MixinBackupWriter WARN cleanVm: incorrect backup size in metadata {
              path: '/xo-vm-backups/07e5d245-7ed3-b690-e386-3461556ad41f/20250411T122801Z.json',
              actual: 46137344,
              expected: 48412160
            }
            2025-04-11T12:28:03.081Z xo:backups:worker INFO backup has ended
            2025-04-11T12:28:03.181Z xo:backups:worker INFO process will exit {
              duration: 21752192,
              exitCode: 0,
              resourceUsage: {
                userCPUTime: 3794057,
                systemCPUTime: 468414,
                maxRSS: 69592,
                sharedMemorySize: 0,
                unsharedDataSize: 0,
                unsharedStackSize: 0,
                minorPageFault: 42277,
                majorPageFault: 0,
                swappedOut: 0,
                fsRead: 13624,
                fsWrite: 185840,
                ipcSent: 0,
                ipcReceived: 0,
                signalsCount: 0,
                voluntaryContextSwitches: 3591,
                involuntaryContextSwitches: 441
              },
              summary: { duration: '22s', cpuUsage: '20%', memoryUsage: '67.96 MiB' }
            }
            

            can't get NBD to work. It enabled on nic, but not used for backups. XO settings copied from prod instance.

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            • D Offline
              Davidj 0
              last edited by

              Like @Tristis-Oris , my first tests were done using a clone of my production XO. They failed with "No NBD" errors.

              Creating a new backup works.

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                Tristis Oris Top contributor @Davidj 0
                last edited by

                @Davidj-0 No NBD usage even with new task( Main XO is on same host, same nic.

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                • D Offline
                  Davidj 0 @Tristis Oris
                  last edited by

                  @Tristis-Oris My setup is similar to yours, and I get similar errors on any existing backup job.

                  However, if I create a new backup job, then it works without any error.

                  ping @florent , maybe these data points are useful.

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                  • florentF Offline
                    florent Vates 🪐 XO Team
                    last edited by

                    thanks for your tests . I will recheck NBD backup

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                    • florentF Offline
                      florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @florent
                      last edited by

                      ih @Tristis-Oris and @Davidj-0 I pushed an update to better handle NBD error, please keep us informed

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                        Tristis Oris Top contributor @florent
                        last edited by Tristis Oris

                        @florent i'm not sure how to update from this branch(

                        git checkout .
                        git pull --ff-only
                        yarn
                        yarn build
                        
                        Updating 04be60321..6641580e6
                        Fast-forward
                         @xen-orchestra/xapi/disks/Xapi.mjs             | 17 ++++++++++-------
                         @xen-orchestra/xapi/disks/XapiVhdCbt.mjs       |  3 ++-
                         @xen-orchestra/xapi/disks/XapiVhdStreamNbd.mjs |  3 ---
                         @xen-orchestra/xapi/disks/utils.mjs            | 29 ++++++++++++++++-------------
                         4 files changed, 28 insertions(+), 24 deletions(-)
                        
                        git checkout feat_generator_backups
                        Already on 'feat_generator_backups'
                        Your branch is up to date with 'origin/feat_generator_backups'.
                        
                        
                        git pull origin feat_generator_backups
                        From https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra
                         * branch                feat_generator_backups -> FETCH_HEAD
                        Already up to date.
                        

                        but still no NBD at backup.

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                          Tristis Oris Top contributor
                          last edited by

                          i see significant speed difference from master branch.

                          prod
                          NBD
                          160.71 MiB
                          no NBD
                          169

                          test
                          NBD (broken)
                          110-130 MiB
                          no NBD
                          115

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                          • florentF Offline
                            florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @Tristis Oris
                            last edited by

                            @Tristis-Oris ouch that is quite costly
                            Can you describe which backup you run ?
                            Can you check if the duration is different (maybe this is a measurement error and not a slow speed) ?

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                              Tristis Oris Top contributor @florent
                              last edited by

                              @florent

                              1 vm, 1 storage, NBD connections: 1. delta, first full.

                              Duration: 3 minutes
                              Size: 26.54 GiB
                              Speed: 160.71 MiB/s

                              Duration: 4 minutes
                              Size: 26.53 GiB
                              Speed: 113.74 MiB/s

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                              • florentF Offline
                                florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @Tristis Oris
                                last edited by

                                @Tristis-Oris Do you have the same performance without NBD ?
                                Does your storage use blocks ?

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                                  Tristis Oris Top contributor @florent
                                  last edited by

                                  @florent blocks! i forgot about that checkbox)

                                  better but not same.

                                  Duration: 3 minutes
                                  Size: 26.53 GiB
                                  Speed: 143.7 MiB/s

                                  Speed: 146.09 MiB/s

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                                    florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @Tristis Oris
                                    last edited by

                                    @Tristis-Oris I made a little change, can you update (like the last time ) and retest ?

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                                      Tristis Oris Top contributor @florent
                                      last edited by

                                      @florent
                                      same speed after fix.
                                      142.56 MiB/s - 145.63 MiB/s

                                      maybe i miss something else? same database as prod, only another LUN connected for backups.

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                                        florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @Tristis Oris
                                        last edited by florent

                                        @Tristis-Oris no it's on our end

                                        Could you retry nbd + target a block based directory ?
                                        ON my test setup, with the latest changes I get better speed than master ( 190MB/s per disk vs 130-170 depending on the run and settings on master)

                                        I got quite a huge variation between the same runs (40MB/s)

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                                          Tristis Oris Top contributor @florent
                                          last edited by

                                          @florent yep, now it equal. Maybe my hw bottleneck? i can also check with ssd storage to see max speed.

                                          Duration: 3 minutes
                                          Size: 26.53 GiB
                                          Speed: 157.78 MiB/s
                                          Speed: 149.39 MiB/s
                                          Speed: 163.76 MiB/s

                                          No more errors incorrect backup size in metadata.

                                          But still no NBD(

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                                            florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @Tristis Oris
                                            last edited by

                                            @Tristis-Oris that is already a good news.

                                            I pushed an additional fix : the NBD info was not shown on the UI
                                            79c6d837-2b12-4b66-b66d-59f887c088a5-image.png

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