Our future backup code: test it!

Tristis Oris

@Davidj-0 No NBD usage even with new task( Main XO is on same host, same nic.

Davidj 0

@Tristis-Oris My setup is similar to yours, and I get similar errors on any existing backup job.

However, if I create a new backup job, then it works without any error.

ping @florent , maybe these data points are useful.

florent

thanks for your tests . I will recheck NBD backup

florent

ih @Tristis-Oris and @Davidj-0 I pushed an update to better handle NBD error, please keep us informed

Tristis Oris

@florent i'm not sure how to update from this branch(

git checkout .
git pull --ff-only
yarn
yarn build

Updating 04be60321..6641580e6
Fast-forward
 @xen-orchestra/xapi/disks/Xapi.mjs             | 17 ++++++++++-------
 @xen-orchestra/xapi/disks/XapiVhdCbt.mjs       |  3 ++-
 @xen-orchestra/xapi/disks/XapiVhdStreamNbd.mjs |  3 ---
 @xen-orchestra/xapi/disks/utils.mjs            | 29 ++++++++++++++++-------------
 4 files changed, 28 insertions(+), 24 deletions(-)

git checkout feat_generator_backups
Already on 'feat_generator_backups'
Your branch is up to date with 'origin/feat_generator_backups'.


git pull origin feat_generator_backups
From https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra
 * branch                feat_generator_backups -> FETCH_HEAD
Already up to date.

but still no NBD at backup.

Tristis Oris

i see significant speed difference from master branch.

prod
NBD
160.71 MiB
no NBD
169

test
NBD (broken)
110-130 MiB
no NBD
115

florent

@Tristis-Oris ouch that is quite costly
Can you describe which backup you run ?
Can you check if the duration is different (maybe this is a measurement error and not a slow speed) ?

Tristis Oris

@florent

1 vm, 1 storage, NBD connections: 1. delta, first full.

Duration: 3 minutes
Size: 26.54 GiB
Speed: 160.71 MiB/s

Duration: 4 minutes
Size: 26.53 GiB
Speed: 113.74 MiB/s

florent

@Tristis-Oris Do you have the same performance without NBD ?
Does your storage use blocks ?

Tristis Oris

@florent blocks! i forgot about that checkbox)

better but not same.

Duration: 3 minutes
Size: 26.53 GiB
Speed: 143.7 MiB/s

Speed: 146.09 MiB/s

florent

@Tristis-Oris I made a little change, can you update (like the last time ) and retest ?

Tristis Oris

@florent
same speed after fix.
142.56 MiB/s - 145.63 MiB/s

maybe i miss something else? same database as prod, only another LUN connected for backups.

florent

@Tristis-Oris no it's on our end

Could you retry nbd + target a block based directory ?
ON my test setup, with the latest changes I get better speed than master ( 190MB/s per disk vs 130-170 depending on the run and settings on master)

I got quite a huge variation between the same runs (40MB/s)

Tristis Oris

@florent yep, now it equal. Maybe my hw bottleneck? i can also check with ssd storage to see max speed.

Duration: 3 minutes
Size: 26.53 GiB
Speed: 157.78 MiB/s
Speed: 149.39 MiB/s
Speed: 163.76 MiB/s

No more errors incorrect backup size in metadata.

But still no NBD(

florent

@Tristis-Oris that is already a good news.

I pushed an additional fix : the NBD info was not shown on the UI

Tristis Oris

@florent haha, now it works too good)

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Tristis Oris

well, that was my CPU bottleneck. XO live at most stable DC, but oldest one.

Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2690 v4 @ 2.60GHz

flash:
Speed: 151.36 MiB/s
summary: { duration: '3m', cpuUsage: '131%', memoryUsage: '162.19 MiB' }
hdd:
Speed: 152 MiB/s
summary: { duration: '3m', cpuUsage: '201%', memoryUsage: '314.1 MiB' }

Intel(R) Xeon(R) Gold 5215 CPU @ 2.50GHz

flash:
Speed: 196.78 MiB/s
summary: { duration: '3m', cpuUsage: '129%', memoryUsage: '170.8 MiB' }
hdd:
Speed: 184.72 MiB/s
summary: { duration: '3m', cpuUsage: '198%', memoryUsage: '321.06 MiB' }

Intel(R) Xeon(R) Platinum 8260 CPU @ 2.40GHz

flash:
Speed: 222.32 MiB/s
Speed: 220 MiB/s
summary: { duration: '2m', cpuUsage: '155%', memoryUsage: '183.77 MiB' }

hdd:
Speed: 185.63 MiB/s
Speed: 185.21 MiB/s
summary: { duration: '3m', cpuUsage: '196%', memoryUsage: '315.87 MiB' }

Look at high memory usage with hdd.

sometimes i still got errors.

          "id": "1744875242122:0",
          "message": "export",
          "start": 1744875242122,
          "status": "success",
          "tasks": [
            {
              "id": "1744875245258",
              "message": "transfer",
              "start": 1744875245258,
              "status": "success",
              "end": 1744875430762,
              "result": {
                "size": 28489809920
              }
            },
            {
              "id": "1744875432586",
              "message": "clean-vm",
              "start": 1744875432586,
              "status": "success",
              "warnings": [
                {
                  "data": {
                    "path": "/xo-vm-backups/d4950e88-f6aa-dbc1-e6fe-e3c73ebe9904/20250417T073405Z.json",
                    "actual": 28489809920,
                    "expected": 28496828928
                  },
                  "message": "cleanVm: incorrect backup size in metadata"
                }

          "id": "1744876967012:0",
          "message": "export",
          "start": 1744876967012,
          "status": "success",
          "tasks": [
            {
              "id": "1744876970075",
              "message": "transfer",
              "start": 1744876970075,
              "status": "success",
              "end": 1744877108146,
              "result": {
                "size": 28489809920
              }
            },
            {
              "id": "1744877119430",
              "message": "clean-vm",
              "start": 1744877119430,
              "status": "success",
              "warnings": [
                {
                  "data": {
                    "path": "/xo-vm-backups/d4950e88-f6aa-dbc1-e6fe-e3c73ebe9904/20250417T080250Z.json",
                    "actual": 28489809920,
                    "expected": 28496828928
                  },
                  "message": "cleanVm: incorrect backup size in metadata"
                }

Tristis Oris

i tried to move tests to another vm, but again can't build it with same commands(

yarn start
yarn run v1.22.22
$ node dist/cli.mjs
node:internal/modules/esm/resolve:275
    throw new ERR_MODULE_NOT_FOUND(
          ^

Error [ERR_MODULE_NOT_FOUND]: Cannot find module '/opt/xen-orchestra/@xen-orchestra/xapi/disks/XapiProgress.mjs' imported from /opt/xen-orchestra/@xen-orchestra/xapi/disks/Xapi.mjs
    at finalizeResolution (node:internal/modules/esm/resolve:275:11)
    at moduleResolve (node:internal/modules/esm/resolve:860:10)
    at defaultResolve (node:internal/modules/esm/resolve:984:11)
    at ModuleLoader.defaultResolve (node:internal/modules/esm/loader:685:12)
    at #cachedDefaultResolve (node:internal/modules/esm/loader:634:25)
    at ModuleLoader.resolve (node:internal/modules/esm/loader:617:38)
    at ModuleLoader.getModuleJobForImport (node:internal/modules/esm/loader:273:38)
    at ModuleJob._link (node:internal/modules/esm/module_job:135:49) {
  code: 'ERR_MODULE_NOT_FOUND',
  url: 'file:///opt/xen-orchestra/@xen-orchestra/xapi/disks/XapiProgress.mjs'
}

Node.js v22.14.0
error Command failed with exit code 1.
info Visit https://yarnpkg.com/en/docs/cli/run for documentation about this command.

florent

@Tristis-Oris thanks , I missed a file
I pushed it just now

Andrew

@florent I finally got the new code running and I tested a Delta Backup (full first run) with NBD x3 enabled and it's leaving NBD transfer (on xcp1) 99% connected after a run. The backup does complete but the task is stuck.