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    • A Offline
      axel
      last edited by

      Hello

      I am trying XO looks nice. My installation is very smal. The are two serves as a "HA" cluster (yes more are better) and a apklication server. HA with HA Lizard. So there ar now three servers and a very small head with XO. I am using a HP-Thinclient with 4GYte RAM an 16GByte SSD. It runs fine, I try the xcp update it runns perfect.

      Now i will try the export VMs. Will be pefect on a external USB3.0 Disk.

      Will be nice to had a button 4 mounting/unmounting USB Drives.

      It is possibel to store the export files localy ?

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      • olivierlambertO Offline
        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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        So you'd like to avoid another server to store the backup? I would say it's doable, but if you can buy a very cheap NAS with NFS, put it in another room, you'll get FAR more security for a low cost.

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          axel
          last edited by axel

          Hello Oliver

          I didnt understand why a NAS is more save than a local to XO connectet hard drive ?
          And need mutch more energie.. And more Networktrafic...

          My my coustumer can change the HDD every day and wie let run the Exports of snapshout by nigth.

          If i store the exports via NAS external the networktrafic is doubel high.. Move them the XO mashine than to the NAS.

          And i need 2 NAS systems to leave the officce.. (when the officie is burning down or sombody seal the IT - stuff.

          Coutryside has no good Internet Infrastrukture (symetric fiber cahnale with 100 or 200Gbit can costs 1000€ per month if ther is some) and we pay around 030€/kW

          My costumer had VDSL2 wich 300/50Mbit so ist no option to sore it external ..

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          • olivierlambertO Offline
            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
            last edited by

            1. Because if your server is taking fire/water/electrical or any physical issue, having a box at another place (even just at another room close to it) is far far far safer. Really, it worth every $ of this very low investment.
            2. XO backups aren't meant to work like that. If you want to plug/unplug the HDD, this will require something in XO VM to be able to get the mount working when needed.
            3. Having a HDD plugged for "ever" will work, but you are in case 1. in terms of safety
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              axel @olivierlambert
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              @olivierlambert

              Hello Olivier

              witch directory will bused by soringing the VM images '?

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              • olivierlambertO Offline
                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                last edited by

                Sorry I don't understand what you meant.

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                  axel
                  last edited by

                  @olivierlambert said in USB Hard drives for VM exports:

                  Having a HDD plugged for "ever" will work, but you are in case 1. in terms of safety

                  you are writing

                  1. Having a HDD plugged for "ever" will work, but you are in case 1. in terms of safety

                  on witch place i had to mount the HDD ?

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                  • olivierlambertO Offline
                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                    last edited by

                    You'll need to pass the drive directly to XOA VM. Plug the USB HDD, and then you should be able to add it in the VM view/disk tab, Attach, select the USB drive. That's it.

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                      axel
                      last edited by

                      thx i will try it 🙂 soon

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                      • akurzawaA Offline
                        akurzawa @axel
                        last edited by

                        @axel said in USB Hard drives for VM exports:

                        thx i will try it 🙂 soon

                        expect very. slow. data. transfer 🙂

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                          axel
                          last edited by

                          Now i am moving a step forward :-). I dont let XO runing in a VM my XO is running on a Thin-Client (HP620 16GSSD and 4GByte RAM 1GBit Nic) with Debian. The Debian installation was a lill bit tricky but now its running. Thanks for the debian / ubuntu install script is running perfekt.
                          The USB3.0 HDD is connectet and mounted on /Backup.
                          Reading from USB drive with dd

                          dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/dev/null bs=100M count=10

                          Result 130MByte/sec

                          Debian and XO needs fresh 1,7Gbyte HDD-Space.

                          My XCP-NG servers are found with there VMs 🙂

                          Next step testing Backup ...

                          thx Axel

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                          • IndyJI Offline
                            IndyJ
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                            I tested backup directly to USB drives by attaching to the XO VM. Backup and restore works fine as long as I restore the whole VM from USB.

                            If I try to drill down and restore an individual file from the backup on USB I cannot.

                            Is there a way to do this?

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                            • IndyJI Offline
                              IndyJ @IndyJ
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                              @indyj FYI when I ran this test again it worked.
                              this time:

                              • I ran it as a "Delta" backup.
                              • And then rescanned the removable media.
                              • I was then able to restore an individual file from the backup on USB media.
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